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Actually, this is not about thought processes, and "over-thinking" the experience, it's about what we have experienced and learned from that....observation, if you like. I don't know what kind of people you spend your time with, but to dismiss 90% of all non-boozers and smokers as socially unacceptable bores who can't relate is a little immature in my opinion. I certainly have never been accused of that...I have no such problems, and I'm pretty sure Mr Green doesn't either.
If you enjoy the artificial shift in state that alcohol and drugs produce, then that's fine...it's your choice totally, and I won't preach to you about it, but you have to recognise that it's nothing close to a truly spiritual shift in state that is reached through spiritual practise...that's any spiritual practise, and not just mine. Anyone who tells you differently, and says that dope/booze/chemicals/whatever will put you on the correct path to intense enlightenment is seriously seriously deluded.
Originally posted by liquidsmoke206
as ATS's only celebrity bartender I feel I should chime in.
Old Uncle Peach(named after a certain lurker on this site)
1.75 oz. of Whiskey or Bourbon
.75 oz. of dry vermouth
.5 oz. of St. Germain elderflower liqueur
a dash of peach bitters
Stir all the ingredients in a glass of ice and strain into a chilled cocktail glass. Drink, then meditate.
Enjoy!!!
-Liquid
Originally posted by Mr Green
What I am starting to find now is that even the 2 or 3 drinks on a Friday and Saturday are really effecting my awarness. Has anyone else experienced this? It seems the more you meditate the less your body can accept alcohol, or this seems to be happening with me.
What I am sensing is a down turn in internal frequency, that I can really detect .
We are told to begin to rise above thought to create inner space by ceasing the endless chatter in our minds and practicing stillness. There are many ways out there for us to end the thoughts that constantly bounce around our brains, but there is a difference between rising above our thoughts and falling below them. Watching television, drinking alcohol, or taking certain other drugs may quiet our minds for a certain time frame, but Tolle warn us that they ultimately cause you to lose consciousness and actually fall below thought.
People do one of two things to deal with their chattering mind these days, either fall below consciousness with drinking, drugs, tv, video games, etc, or rise above it with mindfulness, meditation, yoga, etc.
I think once you've learned to rise above it, theres no going back. It sucks but at the same time, I think we know rising above it is so much better for us because it feels so much better. You feel alive, filled with energy, and peaceful. After drinking you feel exhausted and sick.
So now that your body knows this, when you drink there is a part of you that judges you harder than ever. Your thinking how bad the drink is for you as your drinking it. The placebo effect alone will get ya!
I wish I could enjoy drinking like I used to but what im doing now, I know is so much better for me. I guess your not the only one!
Yep, that happens with me. I can only have about 2 drinks and I will start to develop a headache. My body rejects alcohol now, never used to. It's not even possible for me to consume enough to get drunk.
Even small amounts do seem to affect my awareness for a fairly long time afterwards. Is this why it is legal? TPTB wouldn't want people's level of awareness to raise too much, the consequences of that would be obvious.
I find it ironic that substances that lower your vibration are legal,
Originally posted by bringthelight
reply to post by Mr Green
My buddy from college is getting married this summer and is having his bachelor party in vegas in april. I open up the invite email and his brother who was running the whole thing was talking about how it was going to be a trip for alcoholics and my stomach lurched. Im going to the most materialistic, sin filled place in the world, talk about a test of will. I know I will be called out multiple times for not consuming enough...wish me luck!
Originally posted by Mr Green
Originally posted by liquidsmoke206
as ATS's only celebrity bartender I feel I should chime in
Enjoy!!!
-Liquid
On a serious note for those who might see, I have actually found, that drinking opens up gateways to undesirable lower astrals , ones that normally Id be able to block/filter/shield against in meditation. I know someone else who this happens to also. Its like your astral defenses have been lowered and they can then psychically attack you...this is one of the main reasons I no longer have more than a couple of drinks, and I certainly NEVER meditate after drinking as its like open house for lower astrals/negative entities...I find.
[edit on 27-2-2010 by Mr Green]
Yes, it opens up the gateway for the negative thought forms to attach. Then you've gotta work to get rid of them.
Also, I was wondering if you find yourself fluctuating in your thoughts a lot during the week leading up to when you'd love that drink.
I don't drink alcohol anymore, but I used to. It always drug me down though, after the initial momentary relief.
Originally posted by liquidsmoke206
the candy flavored cocktails are starting to go the way of the buffalo, thank god. Those are for club kids who just wanna get plastered. Very anti awareness, the type of stuff that we try and do nowadays generally has more subtlety and complexity then the crap that has been served in excess since the 50's or earlier really.
Originally posted by Doc Velocity
Seriously, if you think that you're doing anything "new and different" with alcohol, you're living in a dream world. Alcohol is what it is, a toxin, and the result is always the same — alcohol-induced euphoria, impaired judgment, loss of motor control.
People tend to drink to reduce their awareness, often their own self awareness. (To dull their own awareness of their own pain, shyness, anxiety, sadness, etc.) It should really be no surprise that as your own awareness and self awareness increases and becomes more of a real presence in your life, that you would find it uncomfortable to drug that awareness back into a stupor.