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9/11 Truth Movement Gaining Scientific Credibility

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posted on Feb, 28 2010 @ 10:12 AM
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You're surprised that air pushed crap out windows when floor are compressed?

Really?

If there was an explosion strong enough to take out floor by floor you'd hear them, and they wouldn't happen as the floor collapsed, but BEFORE.

Pushing air explosively causes sound.

There's not some extra "sound producing agent" in explosives that makes the noise. The air expanding with the force of an explosion makes the noise.

In other words, there's be an audible explosion as each floor was compromised.

No one anywhere has claimed that to be the case and all the "explosion videos" reference a handful of explosions which occur at a 15-20 minute interval after the planes crashed.

So unless the WTC was losing floors one every 15 minutes, that theory doesn't hold water.



posted on Feb, 28 2010 @ 10:29 AM
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No, he's talking about explosives -- demolition squibs that are obvious to everyone but you.

I guess you missed you part (4:00 in) where the FDNY firefighter says, "there's a bomb in the building -- start clearing out."




[edit on 2/28/2010 by GoldenFleece]



posted on Feb, 28 2010 @ 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by GoldenFleece

No, he's talking about explosives -- demolition squibs that are obvious to everyone but you.


You mean the ones that happen, 20, 30 floors below any possible

air compression ?

Ya , those were explosions, I would like to hear another explanation.



posted on Feb, 28 2010 @ 10:36 AM
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I wonder how many Faither are "Mind Control Stooges"?

I hope you guys drop this AE911 bull# now that you see what a cookoo the founder is and how few people are actually represented by it.



Do you Faithers really wanna be associated with an organization that accuses the government of using mind control to send people crashing planes into an IRS building to distract people from a press conferences?



Think about that.



posted on Feb, 28 2010 @ 10:36 AM
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yeah, that's not what the video showed.

But nice try.

Are you a mind control stooge?



posted on Feb, 28 2010 @ 10:38 AM
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Originally posted by Sean48
air compression ?

Ya , those were explosions, I would like to hear another explanation.



Matt Komorowski: “The first thing I really felt was the incredible rush of air at my back. And maybe I felt it before everybody else, because I was the last guy.”
Stone Phillips: “Like a gust of wind, behind you.”
Matt Komorowski: “Gust of wind. Wind tunnel. It was the most incredible push at your back, that you can feel.”





David Lim: Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, and faster as they get closer. What I remember the most was the wind. It created almost like a hurricane-type force and actually pushed one of the firemen right by me.



posted on Feb, 28 2010 @ 10:38 AM
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Originally posted by seethelight

Do you Faithers really wanna be associated with an organization that accuses the government of using mind control to send people crashing planes into an IRS building to distract people from a press conferences?


Faither's are OS believer's sir

Perhaps you should find out which side your on, again you make wrong
outlandish claims.



posted on Feb, 28 2010 @ 10:42 AM
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Originally posted by seethelight
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Are you a mind control stooge?

That should be enough for a third warning that'll hopefully send this "seethelight" character into permanent darkness.



posted on Feb, 28 2010 @ 10:42 AM
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Originally posted by ImAPepper

Originally posted by Sean48
air compression ?

Ya , those were explosions, I would like to hear another explanation.



Matt Komorowski: “The first thing I really felt was the incredible rush of air at my back. And maybe I felt it before everybody else, because I was the last guy.”
Stone Phillips: “Like a gust of wind, behind you.”
Matt Komorowski: “Gust of wind. Wind tunnel. It was the most incredible push at your back, that you can feel.”





David Lim: Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, and faster as they get closer. What I remember the most was the wind. It created almost like a hurricane-type force and actually pushed one of the firemen right by me.


So these gentlemen in your quotes were in the buildings , as the collapsed
and survived to talk about it, Amazing.

This must be the same Phenonmena that NIST used to explain

WTC7 collapse.

Phenomena , LOL, what a joke.



posted on Feb, 28 2010 @ 10:45 AM
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Just quoting the founded of AE911.



posted on Feb, 28 2010 @ 10:46 AM
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Are you still confused by that word?

It means novel event.

Like two planes hitting two skyscrapers within an hour or so.

Or a building being allowed to burn in central Manhattan for 6+ hours.



posted on Feb, 28 2010 @ 10:48 AM
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Originally posted by seethelight
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yeah, that's not what the video showed.

But nice try.

Are you a mind control stooge?

Well thats up to the Mods , I alerted .

I'm a believer in the coverup of 911 .

You are not , no need for names sir.



posted on Feb, 28 2010 @ 10:48 AM
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And by the way, people repeatedly calling me "liar" doesn't get them warned, so I'm not to worried.

Typical reaction though, "hurray, someone asking hard questions will be silenced! Let's celebrate!"

[edit on 28-2-2010 by seethelight]



posted on Feb, 28 2010 @ 10:49 AM
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Tell that to the founder of AE911.

I'm just using your hero's language on his followers.



posted on Feb, 28 2010 @ 10:50 AM
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Originally posted by seethelight

Are you still confused by that word?

It means novel event.

Like two planes hitting two skyscrapers within an hour or so.

Or a building being allowed to burn in central Manhattan for 6+ hours.



Building 7 collapsed from Fires and Phenomena. NIST

What it means is , they cannot come up with a credible reason that
cannot be de-bunked, so they say it was "pixie dust"



posted on Feb, 28 2010 @ 10:51 AM
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.....a mind control victim used as a stooge to paint patriots as whack jobs ....


www.examiner.com... e-ignored-by-world-media



posted on Feb, 28 2010 @ 10:53 AM
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No it doesn't. And you know that.

Phenomena doesn't mena "unexplained". It means novel.

Actually it can also mean:

"A fact, occurrence, or circumstance observed or observable: to study the phenomena of nature. ."


So not sure why you think it mean, "unexplained"...?



posted on Feb, 28 2010 @ 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by seethelight
reply to post by Sean48
 


No it doesn't. And you know that.

Phenomena doesn't mena "unexplained". It means novel.

Actually it can also mean:

"A fact, occurrence, or circumstance observed or observable: to study the phenomena of nature. ."


So not sure why you think it mean, "unexplained"...?


Than explain It .

I'll wait.

What made WTC7 collapse.

Tick, Tock.



posted on Feb, 28 2010 @ 11:32 AM
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Ok, so the 9/11 Truth Movement is gaining Scientific Credibility....

...and RT is considered an unreliable source of information here.

First of all, RT isn't the source of the information , they are only reporting something that the MSM, controlled source of media has obviously, for the last 8 years has been instructed not to.

THAT is why we haven't heard more about the TRUTH. Or the supporters of the TRUTH movement for that matter.

Not that we are all nutjobs living in fantasy land.

But all of that aside, as a scientist and an Electrical Engineer, essentially a math major, we analyze for the probability of the viability of many things in the world of technology before we fully dedicate time and financial resources. These are called feasibility studies.

Feasibility studies and their resulting findings are what dictate whether a product for example will proceed further into development and eventually to production and make money.

This is another facet of the entire 9/11 story that I see is purposely obscured. It is also why I tend not to believe what we are being told.

For if one were to calculate the feasibility of the cumulative probability of ALL of the events leading up to 9/11 it would fall out of the realm of statistical probability.


For Example, looking at the probability of the following events :

1.)What is the probability of this catastrophic event unfolding on the national emergency number of 9-1-1 if if weren't pre-orchestrated ?

2.)Hijackers, known to be AQ sympathizers bypass all airline and airport security.

3.)Hijackers, board aircraft, armed with their box cutters, overtake crew and hijack aircraft.

4.)Hijackers commandeered aircraft defy ALL US Air defenses.

5.)Hijackers, accurately commandeer, pilot and navigate aircraft to ACCURATELY strike targets.

6.)Both WTC towers begin collapsing within approximately one hour of being struck.

7.)Both WTC towers, although designed to absorb the impact of an airliner impact, completely collapse into a pile of rubble.

8.)WTC 7 completely collapses, due to debris and fire, a first in structural engineering history.

9.) Pentagon struck by a large 757 aircraft which essentially disintegrated after impact.

10.)All debris is coordinated and transported off site "Ground Zero" within 24 hours of the event. This is a major move. How was this planned with such short notice?

The list goes on, but you get the general idea.

Looking at all of this from the perspective of probability and statistics.


Unfortunately this analysis, most likely, in all probability, will never occur.

Here is one example of how the numbers might actually add up.

www.911review.com...

In their basic assessment, It comes out to 1/589824, so all in all the chances of this occurring are about 1 in a half million more or less.

This we will also never see publicized by the MSM.

This being due to the fact that statistical analysis would only reveal how ridiculous, and improbable the culmination of all of these events leading up to 9/11 completing naturally under the laws of physics and probability really are.

Believe what you will.


[edit on 28-2-2010 by nh_ee]



posted on Feb, 28 2010 @ 11:37 AM
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Originally posted by Sean48


So these gentlemen in your quotes were in the buildings , as the collapsed
and survived to talk about it, Amazing.



This proves the depth of your research. They are members of the FDNY. Have you ever talked to any of them? They were there. Some did survive you know.


EDIT... DAVID LIM WAS WITH THE PAPD...

[edit on 28-2-2010 by ImAPepper]




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