reply to post by SkepticOverlord
I'm currently terminally skeptical
that any kind of
"KOSHER" political discourse is possible on ATS
within the T&C boundaries and the sensibilities of 80-95% of the clientelle and the mods.
--baiting, trolling etc. is AT LEAST as much in the eye of the beholder as it is in the fingers of the poster.
--it's virtually impossible to talk about politics without using labels.
Those of perspective "A" will virtually always--as evident on ATS--believe, feel and rant, whine, report on
those of perspective "B" "baiting," "trolling," "labeling"
. . . of course . . . as 'outside the boundaries' in place on ATS.
Probably Vice Versa though it seems inherent in the construction and percentages of the perspectives involved that 85-90% of the time it's the left
whining about the right.
Throw into that mix the GOAL of the globalist [oh, dear a label. Will I be docked points for using that label? What can I call them? . . . ponder
ponder . . . ] PTB [oh, dear another label. more points to be docked? What can I call them???]
the goals of the [SELF AVOWED Marxists see ref below] globalist powers that be . . .
TO SET ALL MANNER OF VALUE ORIENTATIONS UP TO BE DIVISIVELY AT ONE ANOTHER'S THROATS . . .
After all, the Bible Message translation calls the Anti-Christ THE ANARCHIST. [Oh, dear, another forbidden label???]
Given that TPTB are determined to shred the historic culture down to ashes in order to enable overt setting up of the NEW WORLD ORDER all that much
easier . . .
WHAT ELSE WOULD WE EXPECT FROM DIVISIVENESS . . . particularly after 6+ decades of their intensely working to set such divisiveness up and then
intensify it???
BTW, Perhaps the ATS leadership could post somewhere a list of
"labels" that are kosher, acceptable, nice, polite, inoffensive, sanitized, whitewashed etc. sufficiently for us to use safely without being docked
points. Some of us would appreciate it.
Of course I realize that within a week or 3 THOSE sanitized labels will be declared off limits so perhaps a committee needs to be set up to routinely
develope sanitized kosher politcially correct UNLABELS for us to use.
Otherwise we may be reduced to posting lines of
UMMMMM ahhhhh that errrrr uuuummmmmm aaaahhhhhhhhhhhh to which ummmmmmmmmmmmmm ahhhhhh ssssssssssss . . . errrrrrrrrr except when ummmmmmmmmmmm
aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh errrrrrrrr
Though I suppose that the "ummm" "errr" "ahhh" challenged would claim THAT was outrageously trollish and divisive.
Sigh.
representative refs:
PERHAPS SOMEONE IN THE ATS POWER STRUCTURE CAN LET ME KNOW
IF THERE IS
A PLACE ON ATS
Where the following traitorous folks and their assertions, values, statements, beliefs, practices, goals
AND THE LABELS NECESSARY TO TALK ABOUT THEM
CAN be discussed within the T&C?????????
I'm serious. I CANNOT AT THE MOMENT CONSIDER THAT SUCH IS REMOTELY POSSIBLE--MUCH LESS POSSIBLE WITHOUT CONSTANT RISK OF BEING SLAPPED DOWN BY
OFFENDED MODS, POINTS DEDUCTED ETC.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MORE DIVISIVE it can get . . .
It' skind of turning on it's head
DENY IGNORANCE
INTO
AID AND ABET IGNORANCE
in the name of civility and decorum. Sigh.
The below quotes, pics and refs 'originally' from):
riffenberg.wordpress.com...
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Whatever the price of the Chinese Revolution, it has obviously succeeded not only in producing more efficient and dedicated administration, but also
in fostering high morale and community of purpose. The social experiment in China under Chairman Maos leadership is one of the most important and
successful in human history."
[Hideous traitor] David Rockefeller, [brother of Nick quoted above], statement in 1973 about Mao Tse-tung: (NY Times 8-10-73)
Oh, dear--opinion--"Hideous traitor" another "trolling" "baiting" label???????????
Soooooooo, how overtly, obviously, self demonstrated does a HIDEOUS TRAITOR'S DEEDS AND WRITINGS HAVE TO BE
before ATS would consider that "Hideous traitor" was fact vs opinion???
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Henry Kissinger
CONTROL THE OIL AND YOU CONTROL THE GOVERNMENT, CONTROL THE FOOD AND YOU CONTROL THE POPULATION
-–Henry Kissinger, circa 1970, author of the phrase, “Useless Eaters.”
U .S.House of Representatives Puts U.S. Oil and land under U.N Control, Bill Goes To Senate
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Zbignew Brzezinski
National Security Advisor to Democratic President, Jimmy Carter, and Co-founder of the Trilateral Commission
“Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen…. “
“The technetronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by
traditional values. Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen and maintain up-to-date complete files
containing even the most personal information about the citizen. These files will be subject to instantaneous retrieval by the authorities.”
From, “Between Two Ages”, by Brzezinski
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Bertrand Russell
“I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology…It’s importance has been enormously increased by the growth
of modern methods of propaganda…Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace
will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated.” Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age, to produce
the sort of character and the sort of beliefs that the authorities consider desirable, and any serious criticism of the powers that be will become
psychologically impossible. Even if all are miserable, all will believe themselves happy, because the government will tell them that they are
so.”
“It is to be expected that advances in physiology and psychology will give governments much more !!!CONTROL!!! over individual mentality than they
now have even in totalitarian countries.”
–“ a revolt of the plebs will become as unthinkable as an organized insurrection of sheep against the practice of eating mutton”
--The Scientific Outlook, 1951 by author Bertrand Arthur-William Russell, philosopher, educator and mathematician
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Obama's Science Czar and author of Ecoscience, John Holdren
Obama’s Czar John Holdren, Planetary Regime:
“The Planetary Regime might be given responsibility for determining the optimum population for the world and for each region and for arbitrating
various countries’ shares within their regional limits. Control of population size might remain the responsibility of each government, but the
Regime would have some power to enforce the agreed limits.”
--“Ecoscience”, pages 942 and 943
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The following quote by Nick Rockefeller (David Rockefeller’s brother) is paraphrased by Russo.
“The end goal is to get everybody chipped, to control the whole society, to have the bankers and the elite people control the world”
Nick (Rockefeller)offered Russo membership in the CFR. Russo turned him down.
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Winston Churchill
“From the days of Sparticus, Wieskhopf, Karl Marx, Trotsky, Rosa Luxemberg, and Emma Goldman, this world conspiracy has been steadily growing.”
“This conspiracy played a definite recognizable role in the tragedy of the French revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive
movement during the 19th century. And now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and
America have gripped the Russian people by the hair and have become the undisputed masters of that enormous empire.”
--1922 Winston Churchill,
London Press
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Henry Ford
The one aim of these financiers is world control by the creation of inextinguishable debts.”
— Henry Ford, American founder of Ford Motor Company
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edit on 1/1/2012 by BO XIAN because: forgot refs
edit on 1/1/2012 by BO XIAN because: editing errors
