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Originally posted by octotom
reply to post by EndtheFed
It tells christians to stand down and let it happen because it's God's will and to not worry because they will be saved at the last moment by the rapture.
First, not all Christians believe in a Rapture. Of those that do, not all believe in a pre-Tribulation rapture. So to imply that all Christians are just sitting by complacently is a little disingenuous.
Now, some Christians do believe that the Bible teaches that there will be a one world government, such as the NWO. Not all do though. There are many Christians that don't see that in the Scripture, seeing rather that in the end times, there will just be a powerful ruler, but necessarily a single ruler of the world.
Assuming that those that believe that there will be a one world government are correct, the Bible doesn't say to just sit on your laurels. If you think it says that, you need to sit down and take the time to read what the Bible says the nature of this one world system will be like. When the Bible describes this period of time, there are many, many people martyred for not accepting what the one world system wants to accomplish.
Originally posted by JaxonRoberts
reply to post by Watcher-In-The-Shadows
It is because this particular group of humans uses Christianity to justify their misbehavior. All humans are very capable of misbehaving, but when a group uses their dogma to justify acts against their fellow space travelers that one needs then to look at the dogma itself.
Originally posted by Loki Lyesmyth
reply to post by JaxonRoberts
I agree here 110% with everything stated.
I am a very spiritual person, I have a relationship with the Great Spirit.
We need no church, we need no religion, we need no middle-man granting us the ear of god. We need donate no money, fear no hell, condemn no person.
Love, Forgive, Accept.
Its amazing to me that Christians don't ever act like Christ.
I mean really, I am way not christian but have the Christ-mind in my heart. I love, accept and forgive, I help those in need and I offer all with no selfishness. If I can do for you I will. If I cannot I will help find you someone who can. Oh wait, I cannot be like this, I am a pagan, a demon worshiper a whore of Sata, so never mind, stone me
The Institution of Christianity in no way resembles that which he advocated. It has been grossly perverted to suit the needs of those who use it to get and keep power over the masses.
each pupil in attendance at a community, foundation or voluntary school shall on each school day take part in an act of collective worship."
"Our collective worship is of a broadly christian nature"
Originally posted by JaxonRoberts
reply to post by schrodingers dog
Sorry you don't agree with it, dog, but I have to disagree with you. The concepts of 'Good' and 'Evil' are not the sole property of those who subscribe to an organized religion, or a non-organized religion. Even an Atheist will tell you that a serial killer is 'evil', that Hitler was 'evil', that conspiring to manipulate and control others is 'evil'.
Secondly, maybe I do have a personal stake in this. I was duped into 'sheepledom' for many years during my youth, and thus many years of guilt over things that I should have never spent a moment feeling guilty about. So many wasted years not spent in search of Truth, but instead clinging to a Lie. Since then, I have personally been treated like a subhuman by those who cling to the Bible. I have literally been spit upon. There are places in this country, the supposed home of Freedom, where I dare not express who I am, or what I believe, lest I find myself being dragged behind a pickup truck by a chain. But forget words, they say a picture is worth a thousand of them:
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All of this is the result of 'Blind Faith'... Sorry, but I will not, and cannot stop myself from fighting this form of ignorance wherever and whenever I find it...
What I see and believe is that there is a conscious effort being exerted here to keep the 'Sheeple' in line, and to subjegate, belittle and/or eliminate those of us who do not run with the flock... I see not one, but two PBT that are vying for control of the planet. The one in the Middle Eastern world that uses Islam as it's weapon, and the one of the Western world that uses Christianity as it's weapon of choice.
To do nothing and remain silent to this would make me evil...
The fact that the whole world has come to realise the name of Jesus Christ as the most recognised name in history.
Those are results of extremists that most often sound and preach just like you and always refuse to look at themselves in the mirror.
You may know your history but You lack ANY understanding of Christianity or what a true Christian is.
Originally posted by joeofthemountain
reply to post by JaxonRoberts
It figures you're a Star Trek geek. For some reason, that fantasy program sucks in the week willed, life's losers and outcasts who uniformly hate Christians and Christianity. Do you still live in your parents' basement???? Do you dress up as Dr Spock?
It's amazing to behold, the utter hypocrisy and seething hatred of self-avowed Trek nerds going about preaching tolerance and love without a scintilla of self-conscious worry.
What a putz!
It is my hope you outcast rebels without a clue get your antichristian world of atheism and so-called "reason" -- and then I hope you end up like Robespierre your predecessor, hero and your bloody FUTURE.
The Ten Commandments and "Love Thy Neighbor" are the only two reasons annoying little idiots are allowed to live to annoy us. You should think about that. In a pagan society you wouldn't last ten minutes with a whiny loser attitude like yours.
Vive le revolucion.