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Originally posted by nomorecruelty
Bombeni was banned? .............. for?
I guess what I wanted to say........ will go without saying - for fear that I will be banned.
Before being banned I was only warned one time for something I said in the "Suicide rate high among children adopted by homosexuals" thread but the exact post wasn't specified. I could have had other warnings that I don't know about but I had been offline a day or two so not sure what else it could be. I can only surmise it was the post in which I admitted to coaching my children to torment the poor orphans who've been adopted by homosexuals, after I give them their daily serial killer lesson. Of course I wrote that after another member openly stated that I, Bombeni, was personally responsible for the suicides of countless young gay people, and another one had posted that Christians create serial killers. I didn't notice any of those posts being tweeked by mods.
I can only surmise it was the post in which I admitted to coaching my children to torment the poor orphans who've been adopted by homosexuals, after I give them their daily serial killer lesson.
Originally posted by Sparkey76
Not sure how to reply to this.
President George W. Bush on Gog and Magog
The French ex-President Jacques Chirac recounted during an interview with the French journalist Jean-Claude Maurice how the U.S. President George Walker Bush asked him in 2003 during a phone conversation for support of the invasion of Iraq. In Maurice's book Si vous le répétez, je démentirai George W. Bush is documented to have said “Gog and Magog are at work in the Middle East", "The biblical prophecies are being fulfilled", and "This confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase his people’s enemies before a New Age begins.
Gog and Magog are guardians of London.
Now who is Gog and Magog?
You appear to have blind faith in that statement though there is proof contrary to this.
There is no statement in the bible that faith is belief in things not proven or provable, or lacking any evidence, rather the contrary. As for the words that are translated to faith they don't convey this thought either but rather the opposite.
The word "faith", translated from the Greek πιστις (pi'stis), was primarily used in the New Testament with the Greek perfect tense and translates as a noun-verb hybrid; which is not adequately conveyed by the English noun. Pi'stis in the New Testament context is a physical action, based upon a mental belief and sustained with confidence. Belief, in this context is non-synonymous with faith because, belief primarily conveys the mental action, thought of confidence, trust, and/or firm persuasion, not the physical act. Depending on the context, the Greek word may also be understood to mean "faithfulness" or "fidelity" (cf. 1 Thess 3:7; Titus 2:10); indeed, Karl Barth consistently translates "pistis" as "the faithfulness of God" in his commentary Epistle to the Romans.
Commenting on the function of faith in relation to the covenant of God, the writer of the letter to the Hebrews says, "Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen" (Heb 11:1 ESV). Υποστασις (hy-po'sta-sis), translated "assurance" here, commonly appears in ancient papyrus business documents, conveying the idea that a covenant is an exchange of assurances which guarantees the future transfer of possessions described in the contract. In view of this, James Hope Moulton and George Milligan suggest the rendering: "Faith is the title deed of things hoped for" (Vocabulary of the Greek Testament, 1963, p. 660). The Greek word e´leg-khos, rendered "conviction" at Hebrews 11:1 (ESV), conveys the idea of bringing forth evidence that demonstrates something, particularly something contrary to what appears to be the case. Thereby this evidence makes clear what has not been discerned before and so refutes what has only appeared to be the case. This evidence for conviction is so positive or powerful that faith is said to be it. Christian faith, described in these terms, is not synonymous with credulity.
Nothing here says that faith is a belief in something unprovable or lacking any evidence. The common understanding of the Christian doctrine of faith does not coincide with the meaning of the Greek words used to translate into faith. Not that the Greek or English words themselves don't but the common understanding of the doctrine doesn't. So in that sense I have no faith in your assessment since you have no proof to back it up. How about some evidence? You want evidence why not give it when you make assertions?
I find that the atheists quote scripture,out of context,to further their agenda
Really M ? Pleas provide an example. xtians often qote the bibles out of context when they find a text they don't like or don't understand.
Her's an example , jesus says -
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
Christians make a big fuss about how this is supposed to be part of a parable ie, jesus didn't really mean it like that to do this they have to somehow change the obvious context of the parable ie jesus was referring to himself, he meant what he said.
Who is the final arbiter M? the pastor or cleric ? Or if it's up to the individual reader to decide from themselves what then is the purpose of clergy and churches?
Part of the xtian agenda it would appear is for xtians to set them selves up as some sort of bogus youth workers and wander the streets preying on young people whose parenting they don't happen to agree with.
How you getting on with your study of hell M ? Surely you've finished by now ?
Originally posted by moocowman
reply to post by Ferginator
This is rediculous you people really think christians are out to destroy the world
No but without it their prophesies won't come true, so perhaps it's a cas of destruction by proxy.