Tesla: science discoveries

Originally posted by buddhasystem

Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
Tesla found signals from the planets

What signals, from what planets, when and how?

Tesla bulb detection.
You didn't see the movie.
Check that list at tesla.hu
See anything about signals from Mars.
ED: here is one
1907-03-__: Signalling to Mars - A Problem of Electrical Engineering
www.tesla.hu...
Tesla spoke to Martians and he was from Venus, didn't you know.
He was super spiritual and mystic too.
Ed: I'm checking this one:
1901-02-09: Talking With Planets
www.tesla.hu...
Right after Colorado Springs.
That might make sense.
I see "..disturbances being intelligently controlled signals did not yet present itself to me."
So a signal. Not intelligent. Just an emanation from a celestial body.
No big deal.

[edit on 7/27/2010 by TeslaandLyne]

Originally posted by buddhasystem
Not to split hair here, but can there be sound transmitted in solids by means of shear stress (transversal)? I don't recall.

yes: earthquakes

Originally posted by Bedlam
BTW, Apple doesn't design processors. IBM did in the case of old mainframes, but the PC uses Intel designed processors. They didn't have to worry about Tesla's patents either.

Actually Apple does design processors, they jointly did some with IBM prior to the move to Intel for the Macs. They also designed the CPU for iPhone 4 & iPad. And Tesla had nothing useful to say about semiconductor electronics.

Tesla did use a semiconductor material for wave reception.
Tesla invented the triode or three terminals in a tube and
knew what it was all about.
Tesla invented secure communications ( coded messages) as he
said so for his tower.
There is nothing new, just repeating Tesla's logic circuits and devices.
ED: The transverse vibration only takes place in a solid.
That was the Tesla objection to Maxwell and those that made him
submit to the suppression of ether for some reason.
Tesla should have pointed to conspiracy theory.
The Royal Committee on Science taking a cloaking script from Francis
Bacon who made a folio for Shakesphere from Marlowe
under the State Secret Service.


[edit on 7/27/2010 by TeslaandLyne]

reply to post by TeslaandLyne


You provided nothing in the way what and how was detected. Can you write up two or three sentences?

What I see in Tesla's writing is a brilliant person, however prone to mania. There is much there that's pure emotion and nothing too concrete. How about this:

I have already demonstrated, by crucial tests, the practicability of signalling by my system from one to any other point of the globe, no matter how remote, and I shall soon convert the disbelievers.

Religious overtones, anyone?

There is no material to work with, here.

Originally posted by mbkennel
Actually Apple does design processors, they jointly did some with IBM prior to the move to Intel for the Macs. They also designed the CPU for iPhone 4 & iPad. And Tesla had nothing useful to say about semiconductor electronics.

In a sense they designed the A4 part, but they didn't design the sub-components of it. The processor kernel is a stock Cortex-A8.

Basically, they did a semi-custom design with Samsung, combining already existing design elements to get the combination they needed.

It's sort of like me designing a Xilinx FPGA that has some MicroBlaze or PPC440's in it - yes, I designed the chip, and yes it has processors in it, but I didn't design the processors, I just instantiated them into the design.

Originally posted by buddhasystem
What I see in Tesla's writing is a brilliant person, however prone to mania.

Actually, it's likely he was quite mad, especially towards the end of his life.

In his youth, there is some speculation that he killed his brother by pushing him down some stairs into the basement.

He apparently had severe OCD most of his life, which was decompensating towards the end.

His ability to visualize problems was failing as well - after his 30s he kept detailed notebooks and sketch pads. And then as he grew older, he began making gross mistakes in the work that he DID do, not just bloviate about, like the copper purification idea.

Probably wasn't helped much by his constant use of an xray generator on his head, either.

He also had a few paraphilias you don't hear discussed by his devotees. And a weird thing with his mother that came out towards the end with his pigeon fixation. Very odd.

1900-06-__: The Problem of Increasing Human Energy

FIRST EFFORTS TO PRODUCE THE SELF-ACTING ENGINE — THE MECHANICAL OSCILLATOR — WORK OF DEWAR AND LINDE — LIQUID AIR Having recognized this truth, I began to devise means for carrying out my idea, and, after long thought, I finally conceived a combination of apparatus which should make possible the obtaining of power from the medium by a process of continuous cooling of atmospheric air. This apparatus, by continually transforming heat into mechanical work, tended to become colder and colder, and if it only were practicable to reach a very low temperature in this manner, then a sink for the heat could be produced, and energy could be derived from the medium. This seemed to be contrary to the statements of Carnot and Lord Kelvin before referred to, but I concluded from the theory of the process that such a result could be attained.

Evaporative cooling helped in ever cooling gas to liquid.
If a generator can be run on this process there might have been
a chance Tesla succeeded.
This is suspect.
The free running piston some how controlled larger electrical
currents.

A prize invention that anti Tesla agents would be sure to make
extinct from our science classes.
ED: This might be the Tesla generator:

The windings on the oscillator were about 50 miles in length, and its inductive- capacitive system allowed it to operate on a frequency which was consistent with the earth’s, at a wavelength of about 925 miles, with a frequency close to 13.5 c.p.s., sometimes mentioned in relation to Naval ELF communications. Was this part of Tesla’s long wave system for “transmission of electric energy without wires”, which he said he had completed just prior to his death, as shown in the FBI documents? Is the Navy’s ELF (“Extremely Low Frequencies”) system not only for communications, just as Tesla said, but also for broadcasting energy to submarines—just as Tesla also said?

At very end below an illustration.
From 1900 to the 1940s atomic power for all.
And did we fight for the suppression.


[edit on 7/28/2010 by TeslaandLyne]

Google tesla self activating

One of those many or all tell of the story.
1902 was Tesla announcement.
Tesla said he did it.
Based on the cosmic particle angle and the Tesla theory that radioactivity
is produced by his rays then I'd say he made an ion engine.
No moving parts and straight to electricity.
There is even footnotes in Lyne's work to a text book claiming tremendous
power from a few cubic centimeters of Radium.
And Tesla announced making Radium.

Thats one power source as the gas or liquid air cycle in a free moving
piston moving small wire inductors or blocking magnetic fields is
another and thought by Lyne to be in a WWII submarine.

There is also the Radiant Energy power mentioned in one of the
search links but does not show the half sphere metal focus.

Another generator mentioned by Tesla was a tri metal device.

I'd say devising the Tesla craft (UFOs eh) might be the greatest
use of power yet.

Also Tesla was to use the Niagara Falls power to make even
greater power output in a nearby Tower not the one on Long Island.
The Long Island tower was for communications.

There might be more and one of the listed pages was very informative
for unwitting anti Tesla agents to put up on the net. Just because the
key words self acting from Tesla does not mean they will tell you
anything beyond what the CIA tells them. All of a sudden Tesla specific
jargon is being talked about. With good historical backing but no
source documents.

Perhaps a better Google

Yeah more science with Mr. Lyne about Mr. Tesla and his work.

Some blog activity sums up some key features of what has
happened to Tesla science.

Ascribing the technology to other-worldly visitors
means not having to share it with other nations, or using it
or related technology to overcome the energy demands
of our time.

Well coal miners might have to quit the mines thats for sure.

The Illuminati and Trilateral Commission might have to picket Bush.

"sound waves in the ether"

That there at the bottom of the blog sums up the transportation
method of Tesla.
And don't forget and generating devices that might exist.

he only shows his ignorance of Tesla's work when, among other things,
he says that the single terminal coil tuned to one-quarter wavelength does
not produce rapidly-varying electrostatic potentials, which in turn produce
"sound waves in the ether" which travel at the speed of light. Tesla said his
"Ideal Flying Machine" used this technique and worked on "mechanical
waves" (longitudinal pressure waves in the ether).

I find in light of the method of movement in the Tesla aircraft the
great energy that must be used is misdirected here and free energy
is a misnomer as very little energy is needed to capture a great
deal of momentum.

Other ether devices are also given wrong turns as the half sphere
is apparently an ether sound wave concentrator for the so called
radiant energy. There should be many more devices using the
ether sound wave technology.
ED: from my post at top of page:

I see "..disturbances being intelligently controlled signals did not yet present itself to me." So a signal. Not intelligent. Just an emanation from a celestial body. No big deal.

It might mean planets emit signals.
Perhaps part of the electric momentum of the planets and the
main driver of the universe and not gravity as we ascribe.
Will we ever be told planets emit signals.
Also would detection equipment ever match Tesla's varied
radio detection tubes.


[edit on 9/4/2010 by TeslaandLyne]

Originally posted by buddhasystem
reply to post by TeslaandLyne

 

You provided nothing in the way what and how was detected. Can you write up two or three sentences?

What I see in Tesla's writing is a brilliant person, however prone to mania. There is much there that's pure emotion and nothing too concrete. How about this:

I have already demonstrated, by crucial tests, the practicability of signalling by my system from one to any other point of the globe, no matter how remote, and I shall soon convert the disbelievers.

Religious overtones, anyone?

There is no material to work with, here.

That is the standing wave technology that circles the world.
Yeah one needs an interpreter.
There are book that include this technology and it might be true.
Now we have satellite coverage but hardly the same as the Tesla system.
Some might say it works.

Tesla wanted to end all wars by policing with robot armies and navies and air craft.
Recall the Star Wars I with the clone armies, Tesla was already working on the project.
People with Doctorate degrees writing about the Tesla patent on the Towers said he
would own the electrical properties of the globe.
Also Tesla's proposals to the US government were never answered.
Even today the armed forces develop their own equipment.
Its a sweetheart or loosing propositional when a sole source item in induced in DOD
or a government purchased equipment, or so I've heard.

So two initial Tesla towers would control global power and communication using lock
out logic with passwords because Tesla invented logic circuits before he invented the
radio. So Tesla would have the passwords for control of world power and communication
and armies and navies and the air craft he invented.

You see how Tesla was always rejected. However Germany perhaps ignoring convention
of full contracts with Tesla seemed to be involved in some development and caught
everyone by surprise in January 1943.

ED: As far as the detection problem, Tesla had the biggest coils in the world and
with electron stream tubes could detect the slightest wave in any direction.
Ed+: No doubt random password changes for power meters and other devices.
ED++: If I recall right a bulb stream could detect a persons presence by
mechanical vibration detection. Brain waves or heart pumping perhaps as the
work is still published. For other work there are focusing bulbs for detection
or transmission of forces.

reply to post by TeslaandLyne

The light is green formed in straight lines like the Norther Lights.
Apparently from indications of researchers the coil is not AC but is in ever increasing DC.

Excuse me.
You will not see this from normal coil operation.
See the Colorado Springs Notes, what we are allowed to see that has been published,
and note Tesla used a coil wire length of 1/4 the wavelength of the exciting frequency.
This causes a constant high voltage at one end in contact with air while the primary
loop induction is at the other end and is connected. This is the special operation of coils
that will make the brush as far as I can tell so far.

Thank you so much to continue seeking the work of Tesla for a better future.
If Tesla made a better future for us 100 yeas ago there might be more to eliminate
the carbon foot print on Earth so we can say we finally landed on the Earth nature
intended.

Here is a rare piece of Tesla memorabilia that no one can explain as usual.
www.google.com...
Tesla Manifesto
www.tesla-coil-builder.com...
Click on the pamphlet and read the writing across the bottom:
Burning atmospheric nitrogen by high frequency discharges 12 million volts.
And we do know Tesla could make 12M volts to compare.
And what does society do with Nitrogen, lets scientists play
with liquid Nitrogen. The farthest away from its intended use by Tesla.

So is that correct that Tesla would burn atmospheric Nitrogen in high
frequency to power one of his Towers or some other carbon less
power plant.

There are many examples of society telling us incorrect things about
Tesla such as the flying machine is all about voltage and charge induction
and nothing about magnetism in the front end control of force for motion.
So we give Tesla a measure of magnetism. How many times do we need
to hear that and nothing about burning Nitrogen for power. There has to
be hundreds of power generation devices the Tesla way which mean we
will not be knowing of them if locked in vaults gathering dust while the
carbon rights people want to make a market selling rights the do things
the non Tesla way and get rich for nothing but suppressing Tesla power
discoveries.

Some of this post from mine at:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by TeslaandLyne


Burning nitrogen in large amounts would be very bad with lots of nitrous oxides being released into the atmosphere where there's enough pollution already. Carbon dioxide is decidedly more eco-friendly by comparison, offsetting it with nitrous oxides would be a disaster IMO.

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Anyone who has ever read anything about Tesla, knows that upon his death, his hotel room (his permanent address) was raided, almost immediately by the FBI, who 'confiscated' everything they could find, so to the poster commenting about lack of evidence, of course his notes and research was taken, mainly for fear of them falling into enemy hands.

But that's not where the evidential trail ends...there are many patents available to search and download from various patent offices, of his discoveries and inventions deemed not secret enough to be excluded from the public domain. Other more 'important' or valuable patents are immediately redirected to the military or FBI, and never released to the public.

On the issue of particles travelling up to 50X the speed of light, i believe he may have been referring to the theorised tachyon particle, which can only travel at speed *greater* than the speed of light, never slower.

They could be described as cosmic rays in a sense.

Incidentally, relativity falls foul of many common held belief on cosmology. A crucial one is regarding 'black holes'.

If we take relativity into account, black holes are impossible and cannot exist. They would take an infinite amount of time to manifest, and an infinite amount of energy to maintain...since the Universe is not thought to be of infinite age, they cannot exist..according to relativity.

Tesla, it;s often said was a man born into the wrong time. It's a shame, if he were around today i feel being the genius he obviously was, he would have been wiser to the corruption that eventually suffocated him and his great work, and would have managed to avoid it for the betterment of the human species.

reply to post by buddhasystem

Not to split hair here, but can there be sound transmitted in solids by means of shear stress (transversal)? I don't recall.

I'm not sure if this is what you're asking Budda, but do you mean resonance frequencies?

If so, then yes. When the resonant frequency is found for a given material, or in other words a materials harmonic vibration, a great deal of damage can be done relatively simply.

Tesla himself created a small device, that would cycle through various vibratory frequencies until a 'resonance' was achieved...from that point onwards, if the device was left on, it could literally shake a building to dust.

I theorise this is the reason ancient cultures built their (still standing) monuments using different shaped blocks and different materials for those blocks.

This way, even in Earthquake prone areas, the whole structure would never achieve resonance or harmonic marriage with a vibration source, such as an Earthquake, as the structure being made of differing materials having different resonant signatures, would never achieve sympathy and crumble.

Very clever those ancients.

Us on the other hand, build building made form mostly the same size and shaped blocks made from the same material, and they fall down quite easily during an Earthquake.

Originally posted by Pilgrum
reply to post by TeslaandLyne

 

Burning nitrogen in large amounts would be very bad with lots of nitrous oxides being released into the atmosphere where there's enough pollution already. Carbon dioxide is decidedly more eco-friendly by comparison, offsetting it with nitrous oxides would be a disaster IMO.

We might end up with piles of fertilizer.
Needed for the world to grow plants and also make bombs.
Not sure of the whole process intended by Tesla as I wondered about the
Nitrogen compounds myself. Also is there a full burn or some electrostaticly
produced excited state that keeps energizing with voltage as some sort of
Papp engine that creates a vacuum but Tesla's creates high voltage from a
lesser voltage.
The Papp continuous engine:

Google Video Link

The only thing Tesla mentions is voltage.
Whereas Tesla has mentioned the burning of Nitrogen to make fertilizer
and we might still be using his process.

I think the theory of vibrations in solids goes like this.
You can't vibrate longitudinally like a hammer on the end of a pipe
because you move or displace the object and would be immovable
except for ringing which one of the Greeks did to invent how musical
notes work off the vibrations of different length pipes.

So what happens in air or gasses or in the even smaller and finer
pieces of mass that are charged and uncharged. This is what Tesla
worked with with AC at high frequency perhaps 20,000 cps that showed
a flow in one direction and completed electrical circuits in the air and
not in a loop as in the circuit laws of Kirchhoff and Ampere.

The pulsing electrostatic action on the gases made them light up.
Tesla manages to pulse in predominantly in one direction to manage
the movement of matter and thus transmission of force and electricity
like he always talked about after Niagara Falls and telling more and more
until 1940 saying force is also possible .

This being a little too much for the spies handling Tesla we heard nothing
else until Jan 1943 and if you see the FBI file the claimed his death a day
early. The next memo claims the death was the next day. I know Bill
Lyne has his theories on what happened. Top discoveries by Tesla as
I was once asked if I was to study physics after asking if AC would
create a force like DC. Good thing I said no as the secret would have
been obscured by studies contrary to Tesla findings which can be found
by reading his published works.

recently linked:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

by
Xcouncil=wisdom

What are the existing Tesla devices.
Power company generators and transformers and watt hour meters and capacitors all
improved by Tesla most likely bought up in his patents by GE.

What we may have heard is the florescent bulb was a Tesla invention.
Radio signals were used by Tesla when no one else suspected and found the signal
at West Point from the transmitter in Manhattan. Appointed radio inventor by court order
after his death. All the ca-ching ($$) Tesla would have made off the radio we would have
24/7 lit homes and flying cars and space adventure to wipe out any poor alien planet.

Suspected Tesla inventions are the unknown flying vehicles.