I've swung this way and that over the past 20yrs of my UFO searching history but these days I'm of the opinion that all UFO's that are not proven hoaxes are of this Planet and our secret governments agencies are behind any strange object seen.

But, can someone point me to:-

1. a photo of a UFO on the ground?
2. a film of a UFO on the ground?
3. A film of a UFO leaving the ground?

I don't believe that any of the above exist and one of the reasons for my not believing in this alien UFO cult/religion any more

And as for actual Alien's themselves I await the photo's and video that I know doesn't exist?

Doesn't this ever convince anyone else of this deception to keep us from looking at what is real and happening to us every day by our governments?

Originally posted by mlmijyd

I don't believe that any of the above exist and one of the reasons for my not believing in this alien UFO cult/religion any more

So now that you have stopped, may I ask when was it you started to adopt the beliefs of the UFO cultists?

Was it the Extraterrestrial Hypothesis for UFOs that has soured you?

Please tell us what (and who) turned you off of the whole thing.

How can all UFO's be considered terrestrial ??

there are photo's of ufo's going back to the 30's, and footage going back to the 60's. would you really think our technology is that advanced ?

don't you think it would be more likely NOT to find pictures of landed UFO's and alien beings if they existed ?? it's not like their walking around sunset strip.

You seek to Justify your lack of beleif's in such things with a correlation in a lack of evidence.

have you ever considered the possibility that your perception of acceptable evidence is excessive and unrealistic ??

Originally posted by mlmijyd

1. a photo of a UFO on the ground?
2. a film of a UFO on the ground?
3. A film of a UFO leaving the ground?

I will provide your proof after you provide me with proof that Love exists.

Originally posted by Exuberant1

Originally posted by mlmijyd

I don't believe that any of the above exist and one of the reasons for my not believing in this alien UFO cult/religion any more

So now that you have stopped, may I ask when was it you started to adopt the beliefs of the UFO cultists?

Was it the Extraterrestrial Hypothesis for UFOs that has soured you?

Please tell us what (and who) turned you off of the whole thing.

I think its the UFO community belief despite the lack of creditable evidence (see me 3 questions from the OP?
So can assume that you don’t have any of the three proves I’ve asked for?

Originally posted by mlmijyd

So can assume that you don’t have any of the three proves I’ve asked for?

Is that not your assumption about everyone?

1. a photo of a UFO on the ground?

It is not a UFO if it is not flying. Shouldn't you just ask for a photograph of an unidentified object on the ground? You won't be able to tell if (or prove that) it flight-capable, especially not if you can't even identify it on the ground.



[edit on 25-2-2010 by Exuberant1]

Originally posted by munkey66

Originally posted by mlmijyd

1. a photo of a UFO on the ground?
2. a film of a UFO on the ground?
3. A film of a UFO leaving the ground?

I will provide your proof after you provide me with proof that Love exists.

It doesn't exist as a physical entity because Love is an emotion. So blind religious faith it is then in the absence of the 3 above then eh?

Originally posted by Exuberant1

Originally posted by mlmijyd

So can assume that you don’t have any of the three proves I’ve asked for?

Is that not your assumption about everyone?



[edit on 25-2-2010 by Exuberant1]

It is my working assumption in the absence of the three requests. Isn't that fair?

1. a photo of a UFO on the ground?
2. a film of a UFO on the ground?
3. A film of a UFO leaving the ground?

Please stay focused on the above.

I have witnessed 4 UFO's when I was a teenager, they darted left and right and then went straight up to space in the blink of an eye.

I can't prove I saw them, the 2 other people with me also witnessed it, but still their testemony would hold no water for you.

you have decided not to believe which is your choice,

This reminds me of when I was a child saying to GOD if he didn't perform a miracle for me right then and there I wouldn't believe in him anymore, well no miracle occured that day or night, but I still believe in GOD.

no one here will be able to provide you with enough proof to say that they are real, a photo could be shopped, a video edited, so why bother asking for proof if you know you will not believe anyway?

you will either have to wait or have faith that ufo's exist if you want them to, or just don't believe, it is up to you.

Out of curiosity, what video evidence would actually provide evidence?
seeing it on the national news or youtube?

well since you consider those to be terrestrial, can you prove to me that they are? if you can't than how do you know they belong to the gov't of earth? your questions cannot be answered and my beliefs can't be proven at this point so 1-1=0. end thread.

Originally posted by IntastellaBurst


How can all UFO's be considered terrestrial ??

there are photo's of ufo's going back to the 30's, and footage going back to the 60's. would you really think our technology is that advanced ?

don't you think it would be more likely NOT to find pictures of landed UFO's and alien beings if they existed ?? it's not like their walking around sunset strip.

You seek to Justify your lack of beleif's in such things with a correlation in a lack of evidence.

have you ever considered the possibility that your perception of acceptable evidence is excessive and unrealistic ??

I did used to think that I may be asking too much but not anymore. I may be wrong but you sound like a blind faith UFO believer such as those that believe in God's that have zero proof save that of an emotional basis? I understand the need to defend something that you put so much store in when there is so little else these days that can offer as much kindred spirit in this corrupt government controlled life?

Again, we are in the 21st Century now and there is lots of advanced photographic equipment available (I’ve seen some stunning Hoaxes – Its very difficult to hoax a ground shot and a take-off, isn’t it) and still none of the 3 I've requested?