US refuses to endorse British sovereignty in Falklands oil dispute, page 12
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reply posted on 26-2-2010 @ 10:37 AM by RMFX1
Originally posted by john124
This should rouse or stir some tension here on ATS....

Couple of weeks ago Argentina's President had a lonely cry that Britain hand over the Falklands and to not drill for oil. A few days later tensions increased to a threat of shipping blockades.

This week the drilling began, with Argentina now gaining support from much of S.America and Chavez of Venezuela even pledging military support. Today this went to the UN.

Now the US government is taking a backseat.

Senior US officials insisted that Washington’s position on the Falklands was one of longstanding neutrality. This is in stark contrast to the public backing and vital intelligence offered by President Reagan to Margaret Thatcher once she had made the decision to recover the islands by force in 1982.

“We are aware not only of the current situation but also of the history, but our position remains one of neutrality,” a State Department spokesman told The Times.

“The US recognises de facto UK administration of the islands but takes no position on the sovereignty claims of either party.”


There's not a chance that Britain will hand over the Falklands whilst the people there want to remain British. But everyone else seems to be egging the Argentines on........

The boat is rocking....

www.timesonline.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)

[edit on 24-2-2010 by john124]


If the people that live on the Falkland Islands want to remain British then all that they would have to do is GO HOME. It's not like they were indigenous to the island to begin with were they? They are all British expats so this arguement holds no water.


reply posted on 27-2-2010 @ 02:04 AM by Terapin
reply to post by jrmcleod



Viperfoxbat was referring to the UK, thus including the populations of Australia, Canada and the rest of the Commonwealth is a bit off the mark. I agree however that electric cars will not solve the problem all by themselves. Germany is leading the way in the EU but the UK is indeed looking into alternative energy sources and increasing their investments in such areas. Petroleum however will be important for some time to come.


reply posted on 27-2-2010 @ 01:13 PM by Terapin
reply to post by proteus33



The Monroe Doctrine, which Reagan violated, specifically prohibits the US from entering into such a military situation. Given that our forces are tied up on the other side of the globe, I am not so certain whether the US would be so quick to get involved.

At this point it is all speculation because other than Chavez of Venezuela, no one is talking about any military options. It is all diplomacy.


reply posted on 11-4-2010 @ 10:56 AM by manchester fellow
This is my first post on this interesting site. I felt the need to correct some misconceptions. Most of this is aimed at the ignorance of Modern Academia. Please don't take this as an insult - but I believe your posts are born out of extreme ignorance. I want to try and keep this as short as possible.

First of all I would like to pick up on your misguided view the the British Empire was "Evil". Sure the B.E did many wrongs, but you have to put this into context. At that time the Ottoman Empire was quite partial to a genocide or two - the Japanese Empire like to hang innocent women and children by their tongues to "assert their authority" over a new land. In the Grand scheme of things the B.E was actually by far the lesser of all evils - it's just that the US education system likes to teach that the B.E was Evil to : 1 Raise the level of nationalism in thier citizens by painting the enemy as "evil". 2. Because the B.E was the biggest and most recognisable.

Here is a link to a youtube docu on the subject. It shows Britain's rights AND wrongs - please at least watch 5 minutes of it -
www.youtube.com...

You also ask that we give the Falklanders thier independence. After the Falklands war we gave them just that choice. They declined - instead they decided to become a British Protecterate - a self governing nation, which is exactly what they are today. They wanted British citizenship which they NEVER HAD before the war. Here is a link to the Falklands Government website - www.falklands.gov.fk...

Also, I think you are mislead on our intentions in the region. This is not an imperialistic venture into south America - nor has this been over oil. It has cost us £150 million a year to defend the Islands. Of course we have done so long before oil was discovered there. I think you should watch this docu too. It is also unbiased and shows the opinion of the British, Argentines and the Falklanders. www.youtube.com...

[edit on 11-4-2010 by manchester fellow]


reply posted on 11-4-2010 @ 11:13 AM by manchester fellow
reply to post by ventian



I think you are right. Obama should know how important this issue is to us.


reply posted on 11-4-2010 @ 12:33 PM by Freeborn
reply to post by manchester fellow



Excellent first post.

I would also ask people to look into the atrocities committed by The Conquistadors during the formation of The Spanish Empire and the way these new found territories were subsequently managed by Spain.

Again, people cherry pick information to suit their prejudices and judge the acts and deeds of yesterday by the morals of today.
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