New Study: Children Adopted by Homosexuals Are 'More Prone to Suicide' , page 4

reply to post by FortAnthem

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MAKES SENSE AND IS VERY SAD THEY SHOULD OF BEEN THOUGHT OF THIS. IF TWO CANNOT CREATE NOT DUE TO ILLNESS OF SOME TYPE then they shouldnt be parents. Parenting is something learned thru pregnancy and those who wish not to participate shouldnt ACT LIKE THEY WANT TOO BE PARENTS GET A PET. Not being mean either so dont take it that way its SENSE OF COMMON GROUND.

reply to post by Dock9

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I don't need to.

I'm not the person defending this guy's credentials - you are.

And yet you question a load of other equally - and possibly better scientists credentials on a different subject.

Have you "put up or shut up?"

Originally posted by Dock9
reply to post by KyoZero

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You'll notice it's you and the angry, defensive crowd who're spewing the hate

Scroll back through the posts. It's illuminating. 'Sick to the stomach' is one. Very emotional. Very aggressive

Is that the sort of reaction we see here from an OP that sheds a little light ? That dares to drag the truth from behind the rock it's been hidden beneath ?

Depression, overwhelming depression affecting children adopted by gay couples ... depression so life-endangering that it causes those children to prefer death to life ?

Depression so deep, so all-encompassing that it stops those children from physically growing ?

Hey, you toss all the epithets around that you like, if that's what it takes for you to feel ok about all this

Followed by the condescending tone you just took with me. You're playing high and mighty so why can't you rise above my supposed anger and hate?

I will feel OK about things when we stop treating homosexuals like second class citizens. And if you can't see that there might be a nasty bias since the source is what it is then there is no hope for this argument

so you go ahead and keep thinking that the source is totally fair if that is 'what it takes for you to feel ok about all this'

-Kyo

reply to post by Mr Sunchine

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It sounds reasonable ... but

You knew there'd have to be a 'but', I guess

Back to the three gay employees, because they were a great learning curve:

one of them, around 40 or so by then, said that all things being equal, he'd have been married ten years ago and would by now have a couple of children

'There's still time, Kim' I said

But he shook his head .. and yes, he shook it 'sadly and thoughtfully' and said his life had been changed forever by the fact his parents had put him in boarding school at age 7

He went on to add words to the effect: ' You can imagine it, can't you ? I've always been small and fine boned. The blonde hair, the shyness. I didn't stand a chance. They (meaning the older boys) literally fought over me. By the time I left that place, my future was already made '

I understood him to mean (correctly or not) that he believed that had his circumstances been different, he would have been heterosexual

reply to post by Mr Sunchine

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wow, just wow. Are you for real? *pokes the troll*

There's absolutly no point even trying to debate such rancid ignorace and hate. So i ain't going to bother. Have a nice day.

reply to post by neformore

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Just realised you're a forum moderator

Curtains for me from now on, I suppose


No. YOU are the one attempting to justify the claims of 'biased research'

And I've said, quite reasonably, that if you actually believe the research is biased, then instead of merely and very carefully 'implying' it here in this forum, why instead don't you ... can't you ... provide something definitive ?

OR .... take your claims to the source. Or to any number of sources. Lay your claims before those employed to conduct the research, or to the science publications which broadcast the research

And surely as a supposedly 'unbiased moderator' (lack of bias would be essential for a Mod, wouldn't it ?) it smacks of UTTER lack of neutrality --- when you feel compelled to comment on my posts in other, totally unrelated threads --- in order to 'make your point'

Here ya go Dock....TONS of links showing that homosexuals in relationships are...well just like me...a hetero married man

Sources

Unbiased...impartial and taking from MANY studies so as to get good answers

-Kyo

Originally posted by davesidious
reply to post by Dock9

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Kids understand it just fine. They have a frame of reference, if hate-filled people don't try to keep being gay underground. It's not homosexuality itself that is the problem, but attitudes like yours where homosexuality is somehow inferior.

You are the problem, not gay folks.

[edit on 24-2-2010 by davesidious]

Those of us who believe in Our G_D, The Lord Jesus Christ, do our best to follow Him. He is the One who tells us that homosexuality, theft, murder...
is inferior. Take your argument to Him.

reply to post by captaintyinknots

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I am not saying that is how I want to feel when I see two men kiss, but that it is just my natural reaction.. it is involuntary. I wish it were different because puking in your own mouth is not really very enjoyable.

Originally posted by KyoZero
Here ya go Dock....TONS of links showing that homosexuals in relationships are...well just like me...a hetero married man

Sources

Unbiased...impartial and taking from MANY studies so as to get good answers

-Kyo

But your avatar is of a female

Originally posted by Mr Sunchine
reply to post by captaintyinknots

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I am not saying that is how I want to feel when I see two men kiss, but that it is just my natural reaction.. it is involuntary. I wish it were different because puking in your own mouth is not really very enjoyable.

Yeah, it is a conditioned reaction based out of your homophobia.

Doesnt make it any less pathetic.

Originally posted by Violater1

Originally posted by davesidious
reply to post by Dock9

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Kids understand it just fine. They have a frame of reference, if hate-filled people don't try to keep being gay underground. It's not homosexuality itself that is the problem, but attitudes like yours where homosexuality is somehow inferior.

You are the problem, not gay folks.

[edit on 24-2-2010 by davesidious]

Those of us who believe in Our G_D, The Lord Jesus Christ, do our best to follow Him. He is the One who tells us that homosexuality, theft, murder...
is inferior. Take your argument to Him.

So, you take the bible word for word. When was the last time you stoned someone to death for have their hedge too high? That's in the bible. Let's not be picky, shall we. More?
Leviticus 20:9
If anyone curses his father or mother, he must be put to death.
20:10 If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death.

So you fully support and endorse KILLING PEOPLE for adultary, or cussing their mother or father? (or many of the countless references there is to murdering in the name of God there are in "holy scriptures") For this is "the word of God" apparently. And not a twisted mindwashing freakathon written by man at all, oh no siree.

reply to post by captaintyinknots

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This is NOT an 'anti gay' thread, in case you hadn't noticed


THIS THREAD concerns reported research which claims that children who're adopted by gay couples suffer stress (from the situation in which they've been placed, i.e., gay parents) which exceeds the pain they experienced when abandoned/given up by their biological parents or when they lived in an orphanage or other facility

The stress is reported to create within the adopted children a depression so overwhelming that it can result in suicide. And it's claimed their overall height is diminished as the result of being placed with gay parents


Now, if you read of children being so negatively affected by ANY situation, would you nevertheless ignore the child's suffering in order to indulge those who are part of that suffering ?

For example, if children were contemplating suicide and failing to realise their physical potential because they lived in a certain State, or attended a particular religious school, or because they ate three slices of toast each day .... would you decide it was fine for the kids to suffer, as long as it didn't negatively reflect on the cause ? Would you ?

So this is not so much a 'gay issue' as it's an issue involving children's welfare

Which is something people are tending to ignore or conveniently forget

For once, it's NOT about gays and their love of the limelight

IT'S ABOUT THE KIDS !

Originally posted by Violater1

Originally posted by KyoZero
Here ya go Dock....TONS of links showing that homosexuals in relationships are...well just like me...a hetero married man

Sources

Unbiased...impartial and taking from MANY studies so as to get good answers

-Kyo

But your avatar is of a female

To quote Peter Griffin

"You gotta be yankin me!"

Let's examine just how wrong your statement is

1. I did not say the sources were MINE. I am not a shrink yet. These sources are from the NIMH. So my orientation could have nothing to do with it even if I was gay...strike 1

2. I have a picture of Rose Tyler, a character on Dr who. I have it because I like her character...strike 2

3. Even if I DID choose it for superficial reasons than that must mean as a hetero man I find her beautiful (which btw I do)...strike 3

oh and for a little extra, do you instantly judge people on one superficial trait or avatar?

UH OH!!! I am a hetero man...guess what else I do...I cook and clean and give my wife backrubs that don't end in sex

man I must be queer as a 3 dollar bill

that was the saddest attack on my stance or me that I have ever seen

-Kyo

reply to post by Dock9

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This may not have started off as a gay bashing thread, but you can bet your ass it's going that way. Cos when them christian fundamentalists get on, that's the way it always goes. (like, every.single.time) And I'm not talking about christians, I said fundamentaists. 2 completly different things.

As for the topic, it wouldn't really supprise me that kids who get bullied more, end up depressed. That's not really rocket science. But that's a fault of ignorance taught to children, through their parents. Pure and simple. The poll may have been loaded, and it may have a point. But it's pointing the finger at the wrong culprit. 2 loving people, who bring a child into their home when it needs a loving home, are not responsible for those who think that it's acceptable to teach their children hate. They are the ones with blood on their hands.

Originally posted by Dock9
reply to post by captaintyinknots

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This is NOT an 'anti gay' thread, in case you hadn't noticed


THIS THREAD concerns reported research which claims that children who're adopted by gay couples suffer stress (from the situation in which they've been placed, i.e., gay parents) which exceeds the pain they experienced when abandoned/given up by their biological parents or when they lived in an orphanage or other facility

The stress is reported to create within the adopted children a depression so overwhelming that it can result in suicide. And it's claimed their overall height is diminished as the result of being placed with gay parents


Now, if you read of children being so negatively affected by ANY situation, would you nevertheless ignore the child's suffering in order to indulge those who are part of that suffering ?

For example, if children were contemplating suicide and failing to realise their physical potential because they lived in a certain State, or attended a particular religious school, or because they ate three slices of toast each day .... would you decide it was fine for the kids to suffer, as long as it didn't negatively reflect on the cause ? Would you ?

So this is not so much a 'gay issue' as it's an issue involving children's welfare

Which is something people are tending to ignore or conveniently forget

For once, it's NOT about gays and their love of the limelight

IT'S ABOUT THE KIDS !

No it's not an anti-gay thread, yet it is being used to further anti-gay sentiment. I'll back off of that when you do.

The reported research is from a prominent anti-gay organization. It has no merit. It does not even mention the variables in place. It takes a snapshot of an intended result.

You are chosing not to answer ANY of the questions i have posed. You simply continue to spew rhetoric.

If we are going to talk about height(which really, could it be any more foolish), perhaps we ought to start taking children away from any parent who allows their child to drink caffeine, take ANY meds, smoke, eat GMO's, or any of the other dozens of things that reportedly effect height.

You wish to place blame on those that are suffering, as opposed to those that cause the suffering.

To say it is not about gay's is pathetic. OF COURSE that's what it is about. Did you stop to look at who published the damn report?

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