Originally posted by maybereal11
Show me links or stats for any of that..I prefer links to sites that at least pretend to be nuetral.

And then go tell your grandmother that Medicare sucks and you think it should be eliminated.

Not necessarily eliminated, just changed. Insurance companies have people in place to run their plans and process claims. Why does the Government have to duplicate that at both the State and Federal levels? Setup an agreement with Insurance companies so that they offer a plan, with comparable benefits to the current Medicare and Medicaid coverage. Then the Government just pays the premuims for that plan. This will remove the administrative overhead and get more value for the money spent.

Originally posted by maybereal11

THE COST OF DOING NOTHING WILL KILL STALL ANY RECOVERY.

What we do know for certain is that the plans would EXPAND coverage to include more persons. NOW DO SOME SIMPLE CRITICAL THINKING: How do you expand something/anything to MORE millions of persons and come out neutral or below status quo in costs. Tell me this my friend? Simple threshold question. Simple arithmetic.

Originally posted by pumpkinorange

Originally posted by maybereal11

THE COST OF DOING NOTHING WILL KILL STALL ANY RECOVERY.

What we do know for certain is that the plans would EXPAND coverage to include more persons. NOW DO SOME SIMPLE CRITICAL THINKING: How do you expand something/anything to MORE millions of persons and come out neutral or below status quo in costs. Tell me this my friend? Simple threshold question. Simple arithmetic.

Some "critical thinking"...sure.

Lets start with the reason Blue Cross/Blue Shield gave for the recent 20%-30% rate increase...

Anyone?...The explanation goes that with the recent economic downturn...healthy people are ceasing to buy insurance.

Either they are dropped when they become unemployed or individual policy holders who are in good health cancel their policies to save money.

Folks with pre-existing conditions cannot volountarily cancel thier policy/stop paying becuase they know they won't be able to obtain coverage again once they do.

Follow so far?

So insurance companies are claiming that the pool of folks they insure has skewed toward higher risk/higher cost folks as the healthy cancel policies to save money during the economic crisis.

Without the income from those "healthy" policy holders that have lost insurance volountarily or through layoff...they are left with the policy holders who actually cost them money..

So they have to raise rates to keep making profits...

Still follow? Now reverse the scenario above where everyone is covered.