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It sounds like Senator Scott Brown is another RINO in the Senate

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posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 08:51 AM
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I disagree with Him voting for the "Jobs" bill. Seems to me that the folks on the internet who were saying Scott Brown was a liberal Republican may very well be right. I guess King RINO John McCain needed more friends.



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 09:09 AM
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Dang it, you beat me to this one.

Shortly after his election, The New American ran an article on him which pointed out his left-leaning tendencies:



Mass. Sen. Scott Brown: The Next Generation of Neocon

Folks, It’s Just Talk

But the depth of the ideological contest ended on this narrow issue. The Brown versus Coakley contest was not a choice between a true constitutionalist and a liberal. Even on the broader issue of government healthcare mandates, ideology did not matter. Brown is a fervent supporter of Massachusetts’ healthcare mandate, shepherded through the Democratic state legislature by Republican Governor Mitt Romney in 2006. Massachusetts is the healthcare model that the federal government is using, particularly its mandate that will impose a fine this year of up to $1,116 on Massachusetts taxpayers’ income tax returns if the residents have not purchased health insurance. The government mandate is precisely what many Republican State Attorneys General have labeled as unconstitutional and threatened to sue in federal court to stop. If the government can force taxpayers to buy one product such as health insurance, these Republicans argue, what’s to stop government from forcing them to buy a car or house of government’s choosing?

Yet Brown continues to defend Romney-care as stoutly as he condemns the Obama­Care modeled after it. “In Massachusetts, I support the 2006 healthcare law that was successful in expanding coverage,” Brown stressed on his website, “but I am opposed to the health care legislation that is under consideration in Congress and will vote against it.” Brown’s dispute is partisan, not ideological. Despite Brown’s enthusiastic defense of Romney-care, Massachusetts voters have soured on it. A November 27 Rasmussen poll last year found that only 32 percent of the state’s voters consider that reform a success.

National talk-show hosts who describe themselves as “conservatives” have heaped laurels on Brown as a “conservative” champion, but there’s little about Brown’s history or agenda that suggests conservatism. Specifically, Brown:

• is openly “pro-choice” on abortion, just like his Democratic opponent Coakley, writing on his campaign website that “this decision should ultimately be made by the woman in consultation with her doctor”;

• opposed a 2008 ballot initiative in Massachusetts to repeal the state income tax that would have saved families an average of $3,500 per year;

• backed tax increases pushed by GOP Governor Mitt Romney (which Romney labeled “fees”), such as increasing automobile registration taxes.

Brown is clearly a “borrow and spend” Republican. His response to a Project Vote Smart survey as a State Senate candidate indicated he wanted to either “maintain funding status” or increase every manner of welfare spending program while supporting no significant specific program cuts — at the same time claiming he would “greatly decrease” every state tax. Brown hasn’t changed his deficit-building stance since then, as he predictably describes himself as a “budget hawk who supports a temporary freeze on non-defense discretionary spending.” Non-defense discretionary spending accounts for just 18 percent of the federal budget. The “mandatory” programs are responsible for huge federal deficits. Calling for a temporary freeze is just a politically clever way of avoiding specific program cut proposals. And Brown doesn’t enumerate any spending cuts he’d favor other than “waste,” which is precisely what liberal Democrats do.

Read more: The New American



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 09:11 AM
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I guess with how Socialist Massachutsetts is,We couldn't count on them electing a true Conservative!



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 09:43 AM
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Oh God forbid that a member of congress should put the people before the party...

Oh the horror the horror.



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 09:48 AM
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Do You really think the "Jobs" bill will have any impact whatsoever on the high unemployment rates? It will do absolutely nothing to lower them. The only thing to do is lower taxes and regulations on Businesses and Corporations. Doing that will encourage them to hire new employees!



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 09:54 AM
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It is better than nothing plus it extends unemployment for those who cannot find work...I suppose they should all just go live on the streets huh?



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 09:56 AM
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"Liberal Republican"....now that's a gem of an oxymoron...


However this just further proves in my mind that there really isn't much difference between these two parties when the elected ones get into the actual driver's seat...



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 10:33 AM
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Originally posted by iMacFanatic
Oh God forbid that a member of congress should put the people before the party...

Oh the horror the horror.


Seems to be the case, doesn't it?

A shame that people are so wrapped up in "this party/that party" and will so easily condemn an elected official that does not follow a said party line. This country is screwed. :shk:

Good for him for not following the party line on something and having a mind of his own in at least one small area of his career. What a sad, sad day for America when such an individual is raked over the coals for doing so. Doesn't say much for any claim of "democracy" or "republic" that we try to make and export overseas.



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 10:44 AM
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Originally posted by BigDaveJr
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I guess with how Socialist Massachutsetts is,We couldn't count on them electing a true Conservative!


Did you ever stop to think that perhaps he is voting the way his constituents want him to vote. Isn't that his job; to the people he represents; not to the GOP.

And it's hard to take anyone seriously that spells Massachusetts, Massachutesetts.



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by whaaa

Did you ever stop to think that perhaps he is voting the way his constituents want him to vote. Isn't that his job; to the people he represents; not to the GOP.



By that line of reasoning, could you imagine what the rest of the country would look like if everyone voted the way their constituents wanted them to?

There wouldn't be a government owned car company nor would Wall St be getting fatter on the American people's dime.



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 10:55 AM
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So will anyone learn from this? Will the actual "out of my wallet out of my life" conservatives stop pretending there is anything conservative about republicans now?

Of course they wont.

All of these "young and energetic" at CPAC were not republicans. The "young and energetic" who have been behind Paul these past years are not republicans. If theyre anything at all its libertarian.

So can we stop pretending this wave of anti-gov sentiment is somehow a boon for the useless and tired branch of the authoritarian party that is the republican party?

What is it about a label that makes so many people cling so ferociously to something so inherently worthless?



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 10:58 AM
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While I disagree with the jobs bill that Reid propsed, however, before we condem the man, consider this: The bill that was put on the floor, Reid did not allow for any admendments or add ons, that means that there was no pork, no additional monies that would have been spent for this bill. That is the kinds of bills that need to be passed, as it is the one way to cut spending and get the federal budget and defecit under control.



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 11:11 AM
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I'm astounded. So many people were crowing after his election about how the Independents beat the pinky-commie-socialist-massachusetts-democrats. And then the guy acts like an Independent and you all get your panties in a bunch. Wake up. The moron-meter is pegged. So many people are so set on acting AGAINST things that they don't even attempt to look at situations with any kind of critical thinking. He ran in MA as a 'non-Republican'. He couldn't possibly have done more to distance himself from the Republicans here. And you're surprised? Trust me, you ain't see nuthin' yet.



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 11:13 AM
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If He regularly votes with the Dumocrats,I hope He gets a few strong challenges from more conservative Republicans in the next Election!



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 11:19 AM
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Everybody understands this was a proceedural vote, right? What Brown voted for was the ability of the Senate to bring the bill to the floor for debate and a vote. He hasn't actually voted for it to become law yet. This was like saying "I think we should debate bills instead of forcing them to die in comitee meetings."

He will probably vote for the bill even though he has reservations. Then you can attack him for voting with his constituents.



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 11:20 AM
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Originally posted by whaaa

Originally posted by BigDaveJr
reply to post by FortAnthem
 


I guess with how Socialist Massachutsetts is,We couldn't count on them electing a true Conservative!


Did you ever stop to think that perhaps he is voting the way his constituents want him to vote. Isn't that his job; to the people he represents; not to the GOP.

And it's hard to take anyone seriously that spells Massachusetts, Massachutesetts.


What's even funnier is that in your slam on the guy you spelled his error WRONG! LOL


On to the topic. I have to agree with you. The guy was voted in by the people. What I know of our friends in the NE is that they would have voted for something like this bill. Thus, the representative must represent his constituents.



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 11:25 AM
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Now you can see that some on this board love this party politics more than what's good for the country. Brown votes against his parties wishes (Along with 4 other republicans) and he is denounced as a RINO!

Sorry, but it really is election year politics.

Both sides will move to the middle while campaigning, then snap back to their political poles once the dust settles from the election.

Happens every time.



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 12:57 PM
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Good for Brown. He's acting on what he sees as the best thing for Massachusetts, and not just being another Republic lemming running to lock up the legislative process permanently.

Mass. is a blue state, but the voters demonstrated that they wanted REAL change by electing a man that was not a part of the political establishment. Still, Brown must respect the usually-liberal bias of his constituents or he will be voted out just as quickly. A true Tea Partier would not last in that office.



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 01:06 PM
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He's probably about as conservative as the Republicans can probably ever hope to get in the people's republic of Massachutsetts.



posted on Feb, 23 2010 @ 01:06 PM
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You must remember that he was elected to COMPLETE the term of fathead Ted Kennedy who supported this bill.

He has to run for the full seat again in a couple of years,not six years.

His state has been hit hard by the "down turn" in the economy.

He maybe be new but he isn't stupid.




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