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1. The things we call unidentified flying objects are neither objects nor flying. They can materialize, as some reliable photographs seem to show, and they violate the laws of motion as we know them.
2. UFOs have been seen throughout history and have consistently received (or provided) their own explanation within the framework of each culture. In antiquity their occupants were regarded as gods; in medieval times, as magicians; in the nineteenth century, as scientific geniuses; in our own time, as interplanetary travelers. (Statements made by occupants of the 1897 airship included such declarations as "We are from Kansas" and even "We are from anywhere.....but we'll be in Greece tomorrow.")
3. UFO reports are not necessarily caused by visits from space travelers. The phenomenon could be a manifestation of a much more complex technology. If time and space are not as simple in structure as physicists have assumed until now, then the question "Where do they come from?" may be meaningless; they could come from a place in time. If consciousness can be manifested outside the body, then the range of hypotheses can be even wider.
4. The key to an understanding of the phenomenon lies in the psychic effects it produces (or the psychic awareness it makes possible) in its observers. Their lives are often deeply changed, and they develop unusual talents with which they may find it difficult to cope. The proportion of witnesses who do come forward and publish accounts of these experiences is quite low; most of them choose to remain silent.
5. Contact between human percipients and the UFO phenomenon always occurs under conditions controlled by the latter. Its characteristic feature is a factor of absurdity that leads to a rejection of the story by the upper layers of the target society and an absorption at a deep unconscious level of the symbols conveyed by the encounter. The mechanism of this resonance between the UFO symbol and the archetypes of the human unconscious has been abundantly demonstrated by Carl Jung, whose book FLYING SAUCERS makes many references to the age-old significance of the signs in the sky.
Originally posted by Norio Hayakawa
Here are the 5 most important factors or propositions regarding the UFO phenomenon, according to Dr. Jacques Vallee who, in my opinion, is the world's foremost authority on UFOs.
(UNQUOTE)
I am in total agreement.
3. UFO reports are not necessarily caused by visits from space travelers. The phenomenon could be a manifestation of a much more complex technology.
Originally posted by zaiger
Oh yeah... It may not be aliens, it may be time travlers lol. You know whaT? It may be dragons and unicorns too.
You mock ideas that try to squeeze technology beyond our comprehension
There's no proof that the technology down the road or from another planet or dimension, couldn't make an appearance here in our now. If Einstein found it worth while to invest his time into the in and outs,of time travel who are we to dismiss it to the unicorns and dragons. Unless of course you are a physics savant keeping company with the Hawkings of the world.
Originally posted by zaiger
reply to post by sparrowstail
You mock ideas that try to squeeze technology beyond our comprehension
Beyond our comprehension??? That is just an excuse to squeeze any theory that is not based on facts into the mix. Unicorns and dragons are beyond your comprehension that is why you do not understand it.
There's no proof that the technology down the road or from another planet or dimension, couldn't make an appearance here in our now. If Einstein found it worth while to invest his time into the in and outs,of time travel who are we to dismiss it to the unicorns and dragons. Unless of course you are a physics savant keeping company with the Hawkings of the world.
There is no proof that UFOs are not unicorns and dragons either. You can dismiss my unicorns and dragons claim but there is no more proof of UFOs being time travlers than there is of UFOs being unicorns.
Or are you a "Don't bother me with the facts, I've already made up my mind" kind of guy?
What are your thoughts on the whole field of Ufology?
Originally posted by Norio Hayakawa
Here are the 5 most important factors or propositions regarding the UFO phenomenon, according to Dr. Jacques Vallee who, in my opinion, is the world's foremost authority on UFOs.
(QUOTE) (from his acclaimed book, DIMENSIONS)
1. The things we call unidentified flying objects are neither objects nor flying.
I cannot believe this statement. A)if they are not 'objects' then what term would be appropriate? To my mind any thing which exists can be objectified, right from innanimate matter to human beings. It happens all the time!
B) They arent flying? Ok, then lets hear what they are doing? They are certainly occupying the places between the ground and the edge of the sky , I cant really see why the distinction is worth making. The point still stands that the UFO which are sighted by pilots seem to have manouvres and speed which outmatch anything we here on earth are at present capable of. Wether the technical description of 'flying' is correctly applied or not, seems of little import when the available facts seem to suggest that objects which return a radar signal, have been recorded by the military in the past, at speeds up to and maybe exceeding 26,000 kph, executing moves which would kill a human pilot in an instant. Perhaps the quoted expert is technicaly correct that these things do not use aerodynamism for thier travel. I think he is wrong to make a smart aleccy deal out of it though.
. If time and space are not as simple in structure as physicists have assumed until now, then the question "Where do they come from?" may be meaningless; they could come from a place in time.
Just for the sake of clarity , scientists have never suggested , or assumed that time and space are in ANY WAY simple in structure, behavior, or by any other measure by which they can be examined. While I agree that theres a chance that UFO and the things inside of them could well be from another dimension, or area of time and space I cannot allow the suggestion that time and space are simple structures to go unchecked. Its a ridiculous suggestion, and its utterly false to even imply such a thing.
[edit on 22-2-2010 by TrueBrit]