Maitreya—Raj Patel—Obama, page 1

This is why I think Raj Patel is Maitreya. The internet and this site have been busy debating whether he is or not and what I’m finding is a lot of word play going on like the post below that was posted on ATS and other blogs. Now first of all I would like to make one thing clear the Maitreya I’m referring to is Benjamin Creme from share international.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Oh, if only it were true. But alas, Benjamin Creme’s own writing say that Meitreya lives as a Pakistani in London and goes by a Moslem name.” …. “As far as I know, Patel is an Indian name. On his website Raj Patel states his family is Indian. So if Meitreys has come forward it must be as someone else. As an author, I’m sure all the attention being lavished on Raj Patel by you guys is only helping to accomplish one thing – help him sell his books!

I can’t find where Benjamin Crème says that Meitreya lives as a Pakistani in London and goes by a Moslem name.

From share international Benjamin Creme

"taking up residence in the Indian-Pakistani community of London. Since then he has lived in London as a seemingly ordinary man concerned with modern problems ― political, economic, and social"

Also

"Through one of Maitreya's closest associates in the Indian-Pakistani community of London"

Raj meaning in Hindu is power, kingdom www.babynology.com...

King. Raja is an Indian or Malay princely title; Raj means 'rule'. www.weddingvendors.com...

Islamic meaning is king hamariweb.com...

The Patel surname is most commonly of Indian (Gujarati) origin. The Hindu surname translates originally as "headman" or "village chief." It can also mean "farmer" from the Gujarati word pat or patlikh, for the owner/tenant of a piece of land. Patel is one of the most common surnames in India

Patel (Gujarati: પટેલ, paṭel, pronounced [pəʈel]) is a surname of Indian origin, originally meaning "village chief."[1]. The name Patel derives from "Patlikh", the record keeper named by princely rulers in Gujarat to keep track of the crops, "pat" being a parcel of land.

It is found primarily in the Indian states of Gujarat[2], Rajasthan, Maharashtra,Uttar Pradesh and Madhya Pradesh, and also metropolitan cities like Bombay, Ahmedabad, Surat, and Delhi. In addition to Gujarat and other parts of India, the Patel Diaspora has migrated worldwide, and they have settled successfully in places like the USA, Canada, UK, East and South Africa, Fiji Islands, Australia, New Zealand, and the Far East.

en.wikipedia.org...

Or this statement from creme "I've said all along, it's not for me to say who is Maitreya.”

Really? yet creme came out very quick to say it wasn’t obama.,so why can’t he do the same for Raj after all he might be just a greenie .why wont creme clear Rajs name?

“He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy." Is what Raj came out with Again side stepping the question that was asked. Which was .ARE YOU MEITREYA? NOT are you the Messiah

Another giveaway, is that Maiteya is still based in London

www.abovetopsecret.com...

This from SI
Q. Will London remain his ‘headquarters?’

BC: "No. In a sense, he will not have any ‘headquarters.’ His residence in London now is, I believe, a temporary measure. His journey around the world should take several years ― two or three years, at least. Then he will go, from time to time, to any other particular country or countries where the need for him is the greatest, where he can be of most use, can best serve at that time". A list of the most asked questions since 1977 answered by Benjamin Creme.

Ok so where’s the UPDATED link as of Feb. 2010 stating that?

SCOTT JAMES said that he was talking with Raj Patel and that “Mr. Patel has emphatically and publicly denied being Maitreya

www.abovetopsecret.com...

And where can I see that he emphatically and publicly denied being Maitreya? It’s not on his own blog and theres no video of it.

Now statements from crème then patel

Benjamin Creme “Gradually we have come to recognize that world hunger is unnecessary as well as immoral since it is due not to a lack of food or food production capabilities, but to the social, political and economic injustices that produce poverty”


Raj Patel “There’s more than enough food on earth today to feed everyone 1 ½ times over. We’ve got plenty of food on this planet. But there reason people are going hungry is not because of a shortage of food, but because of poverty.” bigthink.com...


Patel is currently a visiting scholar at the University of California's Centre for African Studies and also a Fellow at the Oakland-based IFDP/Food First - a “people's” think tank whose mission is to end the injustices that cause hunger, poverty and environmental degradation throughout the world. www.indolink.com...


Benjamin Creme“The key to achieving these goals is a more equitable sharing of the world’s food and resources. According to Maitreya: "Without sharing there can be no justice; without justice

there can be no peace; without peace,there can be no future.

Raj Patel “As it happens, I do think that sharing, fraternity, justice and cooperation are terrific things. I also think that prioritising the needs of the poor, hungry and oppressed is a non-negotiable part of a sustainable future
rajpatel.org...

CONT......

www.share-international.org...

Q. What is the essence of his teaching for the new age?

BC: His teaching will be released in phases, each phase
teachings on:

world peace... only through sharing --–(raj is talking about this now)

politics ---- (raj is talking about this now)

market forces and commercialization---- (raj is talking about this now)

crime, violence and drugs ----(raj is talking about this now)

the environment ----( raj is talking about this now)

the art of Self-realization -----( on his to- do list? Time will tell)
(my words in brackets) just take a look at Raj blog.

Benjamin Crème “His immediate proposal will be to launch a crash programme of aid to save the starving millions in the Third World.”

Be interesting to see if Raj does.

Benjamin Creme “He also gives hints on how to recognize him and urges people to make known the fact of his presence.”

Raj patel “Some swift Googling and dipping into strange forums informs me that Maitreya is a leader foretold in a range of religions. Those who think that I might be the new prince of peace have been reading things from Share International. rajpatel.org...-1447

Why would he link ATS and share international ? So more people would talk about him. Yes I’m aware of the irony of my statement and thread.

There are enough hints around, but most will see it as nothing more than JUST coincidence.
CONT......

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The enormous, spiral light with its glowing centre, seen over Norway on 9 December 2009 Crème claimed that the spiral light was a sign of Maitreya

Now obama (another Socialist who wants to share) was in Norway at the time of the spiral

Now look at some of the dots that join
Maitreya—Raj Patel—Van Jones—Obama—Norway Spiral--Maitreya

Where did I get van Jones from? Here

This from Raj face book
Kudos for giving value to women's work from a 60 yr old granny!
I just talked to David Hilliard (Black Panthers, Huey Newton Foundation) about taking youth to the Detroit US Social Forum. Could you contact him about fundraising with Van Jones? 510.355.4702 Also, Jose Luis (jose@caracen.org) Congrats on US citizenship!

www.facebook.com...

To become part of this {r}evolution, come to the second U.S. Social
Forum in Detroit, June 22-26, 2010, and help build greenhouses.


Other articles in this Foods issue include Ten Things You Can Do to
tart a Community Garden; John Nichols, Food Without Fear; Dan Barber,
Why Cooking Matters; Alice Waters, A Healthy Constitution; Dave
Murphy, An American Right to Food; LaDonna Redmond. Food is Freedom;
Anna Lappé, Cafeteria Consciousness; Dayo Olopade, Green Shoots in New
Orleans; Michael Pollan, Wendell Berry’s Wisdom; Habiba Alcindor,
Mississippi Growing; Raj Patel, Eric Holt-Gimenez, Annie Shattuck,
:Ending Africa’s Hunger.


www.michigancitizen.com... atus=&reoption=&retype=&repmin=&repmax=&rebed=&rebath=&subname=&pform=&sc=1070&hn=michigancitizen&he=.com

And here

ADVISORY COUNCIL:
Kate Adamick Dan Barber Chef Ann Cooper
Judith Helfand John S. Johnson Van Jones
Jonathan Kevles Anna Lappé Katrina T. Monzón
Raj Patel Kim Perry Michael Pollan Robert Saken, M.D.
Anna Deavere Smith Bryant Terry Alice Waters Aaron Woolf
archive.constantcontact.com...

crème said on a video that Maitreya wold steep forward and show his credentials. Raj did that.

Raj Patel has worked for the World Bank and WTO and been tear-gassed on four continents protesting against them. Writer, activist, and academic, he is currently a visiting scholar at UC Berkeley's Centre for African Studies, a researcher at the School of Development Studies at the University of KwaZulu-Natal, and a fellow at The Institute for Food and Development Policy, also known as Food First.

Creme also said when people hear Maitreya the public will ask him to do appear more to talk

That’s happening now people are asking him to talk at meetings including the world peace festival. To name just one of many. Look at his face book.

Raj Patel made his first post on face book on 7th cot 09 today 21st Feb. 2010 he has 1,199 fans that about 500 per month he will become more popular then obama was

So don’t be surprised if Raj Patel get his feet into the white house as another of obams zars or lands a high position where he will work to the same goal as obama but on a global scale

it’s all about Socialism. new wrapping paper, new delivery boy, but the same old B.S!

Just fond this. long read but lets you understand raj petal a lot better here’s a taste for you.
rajpatel.org...


Third World Quarterly, Vol 25, No 1, pp 231–254, 2004
RAJEEV PATEL & PHILIP MCMICHAEL

We modify the term ‘fascism’ with ‘global’. This we do for a number of reasons.
We do not claim that the tendencies we see at work from the early days of the
development project to contemporary developmentalism replicate exactly the
features of mid-1930s and –1940s Germany, Italy and Japan. Although, as
Gourevitch notes, important features of Nazi Germany were present in the
policies of other states at the time, we readily acknowledge the historic
specificity of this period.7 What we attempt to do, however, is to broker a
conversation between two different kinds of heterodox approaches to development

Now before anyone says raj Patel is NOT Rajeev Patel look at the bottom of the first page thats numbered 231 you will see Rajeev Patel is at Food First/the Institute for Food and Development Policy. Google it. Then Google ... Raj Patel and Philip McMichael

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i know its a scam
a N.W.O scam maybe it would of been best to wait till i was finshed

Originally posted by iammonkey
And where can I see that he emphatically and publicly denied being Maitreya? It’s not on his own blog and theres no video of it.

You've made such a good case here and apparently done a lot of research on the subject, but unfortunately, he did say he was not Maitreya on his blog. I posted his words from his blog in this thread: Raj Patel on Maitreya: "I'm just an ordinary bloke."

From his own words (for context go to the other thread):

Unfortunately, from I think that’s where the resemblances end. It frustrates me only a little less than it might disappoint those looking for Maitreya that, in fact, I’m just an ordinary bloke. I always wanted to be a Prince of Something. But when opportunity comes knocking, it turns out it’s to get me to sign for a package for some other dude.

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Maitreya—Raj Patel—Obama

I'm still looking for some link to Barack Obama, on this thread, to justify the title...
It's just me or all candidates to "Anti-Christ" belong to ethnic groups with dark skin?? This look more like a massive racist propaganda and as ever, the sheeple are buying it. I mean, what prevents that the "Anti-Christ", be Caucasian??? Or Asian??? But mainly Caucasian.

What EXACTLY the waited profile of the "Anti-Christ"?? Who the sheeple are waiting for?? A guy with the number "666" branded in the palm of his hand, with goat feets, small horns under his hair, red eyes.... Or a David Icke shape-shifter reptilian.... Or maybe Obama will reveal himself, you know, the good-looking smiling negro president of the racist anglo-saxon USA, MUST TO BE the Anti-Christ...

I've seen many incarnated "Anti-Christs" in these days, you know... George W. Bush, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Hugo Chaves, Vlad Putin, Lula, Kin Jon II.. you know... each one of these guys, have one or more psychological characteristics that makes an "Anti-Christ"... Warmonger, liar, manipulator, thief, influential, etc, etc... Why the "Anti-Christ" conspiracy-media-propaganda pinpoint colored ethnic groups to pick up an "Anti-Christ". I've seen NONE european-blond-blue-eyes candidate...

You know... Anybody, plz, elaborate...

TA DAAAA

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Sorry old boy hate to burst your monkey mind bubble.... but this raj guy does not possess the 32 major signs and 80 minor signs of a wheel turning buddha.... who ALWAYS gain enlightenment under the bodhi tree in INDIA, always give turn the wheel of teachings there, always have a white swirl of hair between their eyes, always have webbed fingers and always has blue eyes

so sorry Creame's boy is missing a few of the signs...
apparently the story among current hard core Buddhist translators is that the early Theosophia people got their Tibetan Buddhist Kalachakra translations wrong and went off on a wild goose chase...


The 32 Auspicious signs of a Mahapurusa: (an individual of extraordinary destiny, distinguished by certain physical traits or marks)

Webbed fingers and toes joined by a membrane up to the first joint.
An odd lump on the top of his skull (cranial protrusion) "like a royal turban".
He has eyelashes like an ox (Pali: gopa mukho).
He has feet with a level sole (Pali: supati thapado).
He has the mark of a thousand-spoked wheel on the soles of his feet (Pali: he thapadatalesu cakkani jatani).
He has projecting heels (Pali: ayatapa ni).
His hands and feet are soft-skinned (Pali: mudutalahathapado).
He has net-like lines on palms and soles (Pali: jalahathapado).
He has high raised ankles (Pali: ussa nkhapado).
He has taut calf muscles like an antelope (Pali: e nimigasadisaja ngho).
He can touch his knees with the palms of his hands without bending. (Pali: thitako va anonamanto).
His sexual organs are concealed in a sheath (Pali: kosohitavatguyho).
His skin is the color of gold (Pali: suva n nava no). "His body is more beautiful than all the gods." (Lakkhana sutta)
His skin is so fine that no dust can attach to it (Pali: sukhumacchavi).
His body hair are separate with one hair per pore (Pali: ekekalomo).
His body hair are blue-black, the color of collyrium, and curls clockwise in rings. (Pali: uddhagalomo).
He has an upright stance like that of brahma (Pali: brahmujugatto).
He has the seven convexities of the flesh (Pali: satusado). Note: "the seven convex surfaces,/ on both hands, both feet, both shoulders, and his trunk." (Lakkhana Sutta)
He has an immense torso, like that of a lion (Pali: sihapuba dhakayo).
The furrow between his shoulders is filled in (Pali: pitantara mso).
The distance from hand-to-hand and head-to-toe is equal (Pali: nigrodhaparima n dalo). Note: incidentally, these are also the ideal proportions according to Leonardo Da Vinci’s Vitruvian Man.
He has a round and smooth neck (Pali: samva d dakhando).
He has sensitive taste-buds (Pali: rasagasagi).
His jaw is like that of lion's (Pali: sihahanu).
He has a nice smile
His teeth are evenly spaced (Pali: samadanto).
His teeth are without gaps in-between (Pali: avira ladanto).
His teeth are quite white (Pali: sukadanto).
He has a large, long tongue (Pali: pahutajivho).
He has a voice like that of Brahma (Pali: brahmasaro hiravikabha ni).
He has very blue eyes (Pali: abhi nila netto). Note 1: "very (abhi) blue (nila) eyes (netto)" is the literal translation. Nila is the word used to describe a sapphire and the color of the sea, but also the color of a rain cloud. It also defines the color of the Hindu God Krishna. Note 2: "His lashes are like a cow's; his eyes are blue./ Those who know such things declare/ 'A child which such fine eyes/ will be one who's looked upon with joy./ If a layman, thus he'll be/ Pleasing to the sight of all./ If ascetic he becomes,/ Then loved as healer of folk's woes.'" (Lakkhana Sutta)
He has a white soft wisp of hair in the center of the brow (Pali: una loma bhamukantare jata). Note: this became the symbolic urna.

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The 32 Auspicious signs of a Mahapurusa: (an individual of extraordinary destiny, distinguished by certain physical traits or marks)

Webbed fingers and toes joined by a membrane up to the first joint.
An odd lump on the top of his skull (cranial protrusion) "like a royal turban".
He has eyelashes like an ox (Pali: gopa mukho).
He has feet with a level sole (Pali: supati thapado).
He has the mark of a thousand-spoked wheel on the soles of his feet (Pali: he thapadatalesu cakkani jatani).
He has projecting heels (Pali: ayatapa ni).
His hands and feet are soft-skinned (Pali: mudutalahathapado).
He has net-like lines on palms and soles (Pali: jalahathapado).
He has high raised ankles (Pali: ussa nkhapado).
He has taut calf muscles like an antelope (Pali: e nimigasadisaja ngho).
He can touch his knees with the palms of his hands without bending. (Pali: thitako va anonamanto).
His sexual organs are concealed in a sheath (Pali: kosohitavatguyho).
His skin is the color of gold (Pali: suva n nava no). "His body is more beautiful than all the gods." (Lakkhana sutta)
His skin is so fine that no dust can attach to it (Pali: sukhumacchavi).
His body hair are separate with one hair per pore (Pali: ekekalomo).
His body hair are blue-black, the color of collyrium, and curls clockwise in rings. (Pali: uddhagalomo).
He has an upright stance like that of brahma (Pali: brahmujugatto).
He has the seven convexities of the flesh (Pali: satusado). Note: "the seven convex surfaces,/ on both hands, both feet, both shoulders, and his trunk." (Lakkhana Sutta)
He has an immense torso, like that of a lion (Pali: sihapuba dhakayo).
The furrow between his shoulders is filled in (Pali: pitantara mso).
The distance from hand-to-hand and head-to-toe is equal (Pali: nigrodhaparima n dalo). Note: incidentally, these are also the ideal proportions according to Leonardo Da Vinci’s Vitruvian Man.
He has a round and smooth neck (Pali: samva d dakhando).
He has sensitive taste-buds (Pali: rasagasagi).
His jaw is like that of lion's (Pali: sihahanu).
He has a nice smile
His teeth are evenly spaced (Pali: samadanto).
His teeth are without gaps in-between (Pali: avira ladanto).
His teeth are quite white (Pali: sukadanto).
He has a large, long tongue (Pali: pahutajivho).
He has a voice like that of Brahma (Pali: brahmasaro hiravikabha ni).
He has very blue eyes (Pali: abhi nila netto). Note 1: "very (abhi) blue (nila) eyes (netto)" is the literal translation. Nila is the word used to describe a sapphire and the color of the sea, but also the color of a rain cloud. It also defines the color of the Hindu God Krishna. Note 2: "His lashes are like a cow's; his eyes are blue./ Those who know such things declare/ 'A child which such fine eyes/ will be one who's looked upon with joy./ If a layman, thus he'll be/ Pleasing to the sight of all./ If ascetic he becomes,/ Then loved as healer of folk's woes.'" (Lakkhana Sutta)
He has a white soft wisp of hair in the center of the brow (Pali: una loma bhamukantare jata). Note: this became the symbolic urna.

These Bakti-Vedantas scriptures have over 6.000 years, maybe more, maybe even prior to the Biblical flood, I mean, maybe they are versions of scriptures from the times of Atlantis and Lemuria, when there were other humanoid races living on Earth, including alien hybrids. I doubt many of these physic characteristics will be found in any person of current human race.

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Just chill, iammonkey, and enjoy this:

THE HERO

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Hi iammonkey.

Can you clarify something?

If you don't believe that what Creme is saying is true in regards to "his' Maitreya is the Maitreya Buddha that the buddhists are waiting for, then why believe Creme when he says that "his" Maitreya has given an interview on US television.

Do you choose to believe what Creme says selectively?
What do you think is "Creme's agenda"?

Regards your other points.

I can’t find where Benjamin Crème says that Meitreya lives as a Pakistani in London and goes by a Moslem name.

I have a copy of Creme's book: Maitreya's Mission Vol I.
On Page 29, he answers the question:

If I went to London would I have a chance to meet the man who calls himself the Christ? (Oct' 84)
No. He does not call Himself the Christ or Maitreya, but is living for the time being as an ordinary member of the Asian Community using a common Moslem name

He're another question that is answered that might be relevant. Page 34.

Why is the Christ in an Indian body? (Nov' 85)
He is not in an Indian body. He has lived in the Himalayas for thousands of years and has really no nationality. The body is which He now appears is self-created - as a thought form of Himself- and is not specifically Indian, although he does live in the Asian community in London, and came through Pakistan to London

The question you quoted "Will London remain His headquarters?" is found on page 72, but is in the context of Maitreya's activities after the Day of Declaration. This hasn't happened yet, so London is still his 'headquarters'.

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Yan Hoi - that's fantastic, I love it. - well done


(You've given me a great idea for my manager at work)

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Yeah I bet you think that was funny only joking, I was watching the countdown and was expecting something to jump out at me, you know them videos I’m talking about lol. It gave me the creeps because the possibly is there. Just look how the world reacted to obama when he first got in.

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great find! do you know who funded this by any chance?

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