reply to post by Pryde87
First things first. My closing comment wasnt sarcasm, the US government explored mind manipulation of objects and living things and then decided to
stop wasting money on it. Its a well known book.
Apologies, my bad.
Regarding me having to prove that the so call evidence is false; I believe traditionaldrummer has already done this. He questioned it and backed up
his statements with logical thinking and facts.
According to who? That is now just a matter of opinion... should he not then back up his 'facts' with proof? As he requested of us/me..? Something
like this, could go on forever..that is why I am able to leave people to their opinion if they do not accept the given 'proof'.
When he started asking questions which could not be answered, thats when "the believers" started getting irritated and resorted to insults and
avioding the questions with the stereotypical "why dont you prove me wrong".
Go back and read, who started trowing insults around.
These so called Experts in the field and "clinical studies" are no better than Uri Gellar. There was a time when he had quite a following of
"believers" who were smitten by his spoon bending abilities and probably wasted way too much time at home staring at cutlery.
No better? According to who? you? Exactly, this is your opinion. But he is not the topic of discussion here. And you do not believe that someone can
bend a spoon with their mind... it is possible to channel energy from one object to another... some people won't even believe it if it is done right
in front of them..there is more than enough information about his on on the net.
People like this are sensationalists, they exploit peoples desire to believe that there is something "magical" about themselves. It allows them to
believe that they are special or have some sort of abilities which they dont, just to please their egos.
Perhaps, just perhaps, they are trying to help people...Trying to learn something new, something undiscovered.. I don't know why some of you are so
against this research? Trying to understand how the human mind works, is vital. And you are wrong, it is your ego that keeps you wrapped up in this
material world, too afraid to learn anything new, your ego, is what is afraid of being wrong. It is sad, that some have such little faith in the
endless possibility of the human mind...
If there was any sort of evidence over the thousands of years of mankinds existence that he could invent money just by thinking about it or physically
manipulate the world with his mind, then it would be a very well established and exciting science. Instead it has been put on the backburner with
other Pseudosciences like telepathy. If I can make money by simply thinking about it then why cant I imagine other things out of thin air too.
The answer is simple, you don't want to..and clearly you do not have the will. You will something into being, it is not instant, it does not
magically appear into thin air. You attract it to you. This has been said numerous times now in this thread, but as per usual, you guys have chosen to
ignore those replies. This is exactly my point.
This whole "imagine money and you will find it" experiment (as traditionaldrummer said) is just your mind linking two events. If I am thinking about
finding money, then theres a good chance I will be actively looking for money as well. And there is a good chance that someone who is actively looking
for money will find it a lot quicker than someone who isnt, but that does not mean that he increased the probability of finding money with the power
of his mind.
Already been discussed, numerous posts in this thread. Done.
I take it you did not watch the link I provided in my previous reply to you... It really is full of answers you would hate to hear.
Your loss..I'm not losing sleep over it.
I'm not prepared to turn this thread into a debate about skeptics, so forgive me if I do not reply until something is posted that is worth replying
to... I've never been fond of repeating myself...
Now I take it that you are a believer in mental manipulation of physical matter, but have you ever experienced it? Tell me how you have changed things
with your mind, if you have. I am not saying that in order for it to exist then you must have experienced it but I would be interested to hear if you
I have attracted certain personal scenarios that would not have happened if I had not pretty much obsessed over it...this has happened numerous times.
So I believe it is not just coincidence... Unfortunately, they are on a personal level, and I do not wish to share them here. I hope you can respect
that.. But I'm sure there are various other members who have examples for you.
Even I am a tad skeptical at times, more wary. But I really do feel that if people are making these claims, and so may institutions are taking the
time to study it, such as telepathy, etc... then it is worth looking into and keeping an open mind.
I have difficulty even meditating, it is extremely difficult for me to clear my mind. But I do trust people, I give them the benefit of the doubt,
because everyone deserves that. Everyone & everything deserves a chance.
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