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So who made God?

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posted on May, 30 2004 @ 08:48 AM
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Somebody please clear this up for me.

Many of you say that god made the life here on earth or the planet and even the whole entire universe because otherwise how did it get there. I have a problem with this. How come it just can't be there? Why did someone or a god have to make it? My question is....if god made the universe because someone had to......who made your god? Someone or thing must have and who made them or that? Never ending just like the universe. How can you go to the start and who started the start? Ok this is getting weird on me again.

[Edited on 30-5-2004 by I See You]

[Edited on 30-5-2004 by I See You]




posted on May, 30 2004 @ 09:07 AM
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When one talks about diety types.. there is no "making" of the god figure it/him/herself.

I myself subscribe to the Christian route. God was there and he created the heavens and the Earth and all that is in it.

But I will NOT try to convince folks on this board of that which I believe because I know its impossible to do it on a BBS board such as this.



posted on May, 30 2004 @ 09:08 AM
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No one created god. God might exist where there is no time. If there is no time then he has always existed and never will be gone.



posted on May, 30 2004 @ 09:10 AM
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I understand your stand on not trying to convince people about your beliefs and I respect that. But if a god or diety can just be there with no creation then why can't the universe and all others be also?



posted on May, 30 2004 @ 09:13 AM
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Perhaps these dieties were "created" on mere belief? Maybe so many people believed in "it" that it became a reality?



posted on May, 30 2004 @ 09:23 AM
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My personal view:

God is a being or entity so powerful that just trying to categorize Him is a waste of time.

Try explaining the workings of a microchip or jet engine to an ant or your pet cat. Exactly, God is that far higher than all of us he is beyond explanation.

We can speculate as much as we want but we will NEVER even scratch the surface, who knows what rules of physics God works to if He does at all. He's just there, He 'is'.

Trust me thats the nearest we'll ever get to understanding in our mortal lives.



posted on May, 30 2004 @ 09:31 AM
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God exists beyond the realm of time and space as we understand it. God is infinite. He always was and always will be. It's something that we can't explain or fully comprehend while we're in this world.



posted on May, 30 2004 @ 09:46 AM
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God as a being is as new as the human race because we invented him, now God as the creator of life is an energy force that has been around for ever.



posted on May, 30 2004 @ 09:53 AM
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i believe zuzubar explained it best. god just is.



posted on May, 30 2004 @ 09:55 AM
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That explains nothing at all.



posted on May, 30 2004 @ 09:57 AM
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God is uncreated. He is eternal, with no beginning and no end.

No other God or force created God


Thats what the Bible and main religions teach *I think*

Thats also what I believe.



posted on May, 31 2004 @ 04:17 AM
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I used to be an atheist but ive changed. But i dont have the impression god is one all powerful individual being. It my opion god allah is the creater which we are aall a part of wether we are aware of it or not does an enzyme or a white blood cell realise it is part of our body. So in my opinion noone made god god is all there is and eventually you should give yourself upto that.



posted on May, 31 2004 @ 06:47 AM
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While I'm not a Christian, and I don't believe in a "god" per se...more of the overall universal consciousness kind of idea.... I can explain this simply in Christian terms...

"God" said it himself (or as it is ascribed as him saying it)..."I am the Alpha and Omega....(the beginning and the end)". Meaning simply, things come and go, but God was always here and always will be. A simple and convenient answer I'll grant you, but that's what most religions do....try to give their followers convenient and simple answers, to explain the unknown, so that they can sleep well, and then get up the next day and be happy little conscripts...


While growing up Baptist, I'd always get admonished for such questions, hehe...(though I do miss those great little felt storyboards, with the stick on biblical figures, etc. of course, some of the poses and things I'd do with those figures when the Sunday School teacher wasn't looking, were pretty funny!)



posted on Jun, 2 2004 @ 07:58 PM
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Mathematicians have calculated the probability of the Universe springing into existence from nothingness by chance. The conclusions were that Creation most likely did not come about by chance but by design.

As far as human life on this planet is concerned, archeological evidence (like that of Zecharia Sitchin) and at least one recent extraterrestrial study from the US Air Force, points to Zetan-Reptilians jump starting Homo sapien life on this planet hundreds of thousands of years ago, initially for slave labor to work the mines.

So I don't agree with the Christian paradigm of God directly creating humankind. Space-aliens mixed their DNA with that of the "already evolving hominids" here in order to do that.

HOWEVER, just because extraterrestrials were responsible for the emergence of Homo sapien life here, DOES NOT DETRACT from the idea that a God Realized entity (AKA GOD) started ALL THAT IS via The Big Bang, billions of years ago.

So where did The Original Creator come from?

To answer that question, I reference in part the work of the entity, Seth, who channeled through the late Jane Roberts in the 1970s. Seth stated that The Original Creator came about through the probability of His own existence.

What the heck does that mean?

How can someone come about through their own probability when there was nothing there in the first place?

Ahhh...

But THERE WAS something there in the first place.

What would that have been?

The God Force, i.e., the nonliving, infinite energy spectrum in the Spirit.

It is the "white light" that Near Death Experiencers report seeing "at the end of the tunnel." It is the same energy that angels and light workers of all sorts utilize in the discarnate dimensions in order to manifest healings, telekinesis, "miracles," and all the Gifts of the Spirit.

The God Force and the unalterable Universal Law that governs it, is the only way that reality can manifest itself in the first place. Without it, there would be no stars, no planets, no souls, and The Original Creator could not have emerged from His own probable existence.

The Original Creator utilized The God Force in order to slowly come into being and then further progressed in selflessness of Radiance to eventually embrace a rarefied level of God Realization. He then utilized The God Force to a very high degree in order to manifest ALL THAT IS with The Big Bang.

The God Force and The Original Creator are two different concepts that many often confuse. The God Force is like gravity or electromagnetism; a spectrum of energy (albeit in the discarnate dimensions) that always existed and always will exist, but is nonliving. The Original Creator, who started the Universe and all souls thereof, represents living consciousness.

Finally, the Universe is not infinite, only very, very large. Logic dictates then that The Original Creator is not infinite in spiritual development, just very highly evolved as a rarefied God Realized Master.

All spiritual growth is a matter of degree and there is no such thing as perfection (which implies a stagnate state that cannot occur because the only constant is change) or infinite spirituality.

Just as one light in heaven is brighter than another, so too there can never be one light that is infinitely bright.

[Edited on 3-6-2004 by Paul_Richard]



posted on Jun, 2 2004 @ 11:33 PM
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The most powerfull force on existence in this planet, the most complex form of life in history, the creator/destroyer/sustainer.....

The Human Mind.

Deep



posted on Jun, 2 2004 @ 11:48 PM
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Mayne 'God' is a metaphor for the universe... its always been there and it created life and the planets... if they both have exsited forever, and both have created everything... could it be that they are both one and the same? I dont believe in god per se but i believe in the universe and the energy it holds



posted on Jun, 3 2004 @ 07:31 AM
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Wahay specialasianx someone agrees with me.
But dont forget just because We cant view somthing as being "alive" it doesent mean it isnt do microbes understand that were sentient....



posted on Jun, 3 2004 @ 07:36 AM
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God was created to explain all the unexplainable. He was created by humans in the early ages. He lives in the minds of theose who believe.



posted on Jun, 3 2004 @ 10:24 AM
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Originally posted by I See You
Somebody please clear this up for me.

My question is....if god made the universe because someone had to......who made your god?

Danger! Mental Capacity Exceeded!
You have now crossed into an area that is beyond the human ability to comprehend. Everything that you see around you has a beginning, so it is difficult to comprehend something without one. You were born on a specific date. Your parents were born on a certain date. You bought a car that was made in 2004. (A new car! Cool) Even the Universe is thought to have it's beginnings with a "Big Bang".

So how do we shift our mind into a no-beginning-mode? This is something that is just beyond our ability to do. The best attempt that can be made at realizing this is to know that God is timeless. Without beginning....or end. From your point of view he exist in every moment of time at once. God doesn't wait for 5:00 to arrive, because he is already there.

The deeper you go into this area, the more questions you will raise. Somethings you just have to accept without understanding. This is not to say that trying to understand is a bad thing, but don't expect to have a full knowledge of God without being God. God has the capacity to know the state, and every possible state of every atom in the Universe. Not only that, He can comprehend and make an infinite number of decisions at the same time. How can he do all of this? Simply because there is no such thing as time for him. He doesn't do step 1, and then step 2. He does everything at once.

Probably the closest you can get to understanding this would be to use a "book model" for life. Let's say that everyone's life is written in it's own book, and you are God reading these books. In one story a man is in an airplane that is about to crash. He cries out to you, "God help me". This man in the story has 15 seconds before the plane crashes. How much time do you have to help him? As much as you want. You could simply put a book marker in this book, close the book, and read about Hitler taking over France 50 year earlier. You would take a nap....walk the dog....and then maybe you forget about the book for the rest of the week. Then, 5 days later you pick up the book and turn to the page to read about the man in the crashing airplane. How much time has gone by for this man? None, and in fact you could actually back up and start reading about him before he ever got onto the airplane.

The answer to your initial question is...Time is meaningless to God, so having a beginning does not apply or even make sense. Still, don't expect to fully understand this. Your not made that way.



posted on Jun, 3 2004 @ 10:38 AM
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Man created various concepts of God in order to explain and hope to understand existence and devise a sense of of purpose for their own lives.



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