Has ATS been infiltrated by anti-israel agents?

Originally posted by Subjective Truth

Originally posted by 814ck0u7

Originally posted by Subjective Truth

Originally posted by Point of No Return
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If you are going to hold a international standard then all countries should be judged the same. But this is not how it works it is agenda driven. I will give you an example if you feel Israel is enslaving the Palestinian people do you not also think China is enslaving the Tibetan people?

I think there was a pretty big outrage in the media and here on ATS against China, so what agenda, most people just call it how they see it.

I think this is more a case of a pro-israel agenda driven by you, than the other way around.

I think people also get infuriated by Israel's disgusting and ongoing milking of their holocaust history, while they are vritually doing the same thing to another people.

The last paragraph really gave me some insight into you. Should not all countries be judged by the same rules? And if this is true why does Israel get all the heat for the conflict from the United Nations? And try and leave the holocaust out of it. I don't see what it has to do with what we are talking about.

the only other group of people, aside from Zionists*, that officially recognize jews as a race and religion were nazis. surely you can connect the dots from there.

one thing that will be unanimously associated with jews, and ultimately israel, is the holocaust.

edit to add *

[edit on 26-2-2010 by 814ck0u7]

I do see you point and thank you for not attacking it makes it easier to talk. But I always thought the Russians also looked at them this way at that point in time?

i duno, of course i could be wrong, but i cant think of any.

so, do you resolve an issue you dont outright win by not acknowledging it?

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I will say it for the fifth time when you have a thread of this size it is impossible to answer all the questions I do the best I can also if I don't have an answer to a specific question why should I just write anything? I don't have an answer to everything. Nobody does.


And on a side note thank you again for not making it to personal. It makes it much easier to talk does it not.

[edit on 26-2-2010 by Subjective Truth]

Originally posted by Subjective Truth
reply to post by 814ck0u7

 

I will say it for the fifth time when you have a thread of this size it is impossible to answer all the questions I do the best I can also if I don't have an answer to a specific question why should I just write anything? I don't have an answer to everything. Nobody does.


And on a side note thank you again for not making it to personal. It makes it much easier to talk does it not.

[edit on 26-2-2010 by Subjective Truth]

i am aware, but ive mentioned it a few times, and you still havent responded, like now for example. not to mention you answer a great number of other questions in swaths....

what gives?

edit to add: dont try to play me, SJ. some of the # you push is riddled with fallacy, but that doesnt deter you from peddling it, even creating forums of discussion with it. you are not my enemy, or even foe, but some devious clown on the internet that i hope brings me joy for time to come; and before you write a whole page-long hysteria-fueled post about me calling you a clown, and how i should review this post and that post, and trolling bad, and probably tying this all back to me being a jew hater... just please answer my previous inquiry.



[edit on 26-2-2010 by 814ck0u7]

Originally posted by Subjective Truth
What I have seen from you are rants are they not? You answer you own questions and try to prove the pint Israel is not a democracy when in fact it is. I could argue the point but I think your mind is pretty well made up.

Pretty nice excuse to not answer the questions. Do you want me to make a different thread about Israel's democracy? Do you want to debate with me on that? I challenge you.

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And also you ask well why did you not answer this question right away. Cant a guy go to sleep? You make this whole discussion so personal why? And when it turned on you I hear nothing but crying. You know what if I am not answering your questions fast enough cry me river.

I said you didn't answer my question.

You can go to sleep for hundred years for all I care, but since you were awake to reply to me, it wouldn't have caused you much extra sleep-loss to answer my question at the same time.

I'm not sure what exactly "turned" on me, but I'm doing absolutely fine overhere.

You, have a hard time dealing with criticism, just like Israel.

Originally posted by Subjective Truth
I am really starting to wonder if I am seeing just the average persons hatred of Israel or something else. I would like to think the posters are sitting at home and work and not in some government run Internet sweatshop. It is the number of posts and the almost scripted replies I am seeing maybe I am paranoid?


I think Israel just like any country is fair game. But this is something else. I know Israel is not a fan favorite here to begin with but the last 6 months it has really taken off. And let's just say it is happening is there any way to stop it?

Well I think as Americans as a whole, we stick up for the little guy. In the last few years or so, the big Islam countries aren't trying to force out Israel, so now the Palestinians who want just want what you and I have see Israel do horrible things against the Palestinians in there quest for security. So Naturally, Americans see the little guy now and say, wait Israel, Your a big bad bully.

But I've learn to see the Israel Conflict as Cowboy's VS Indians. In this Case the Cowboys are Jews, (People being crapped on over the ages for What?) and the Indians are the Palestinians. In this case the Indians have AK-47's and RPGs to throw at the cowboys. Although My leaning are to Israel for the purposes of seeing woman's Hair and in a bikini, that's just me.

What bothers me is that Supporters of Israel refuse to see the Link between the Gas Pump to the Terrorist that want Israel off the map.
The Link Between the Gas Pump to the Terrorist is the fact that the largest producer of oil is Saudi Arabia. And this Country, even though are 'friend' has a lot of money from our buying oil funding the terrorist that wish to do Israel harm and any of its supporters.
Yes I know that we need oil, but I also support Israel and see the two movements linked in this one issue whether your a supporter of one side or the other. For the supporters of Israel who's Political Ideology that leans Conservative, for this group of people as a whole put down the actions of the Environmental Movement who's Ideals of a cleaner environment would lead us away from Imported Oil. Maybe it is time for the Politically correct of this country really get there BS Political Correct thinking caps off there heads and realize that the issues that are negatively effecting the USA are also negatively effecting our allies and friends (Israel) and that the two issues are linked in this way.

But the Pro Israel supporters aren't seeing any of this, so who cares about Israel, you obviously don't because if you did, you would be on your bicycle, riding public transit, oh wait, that socialism. But these small actions saves Israel by not buying oil from people who support the Palestinian Terrorist.

It is sad that a person like me is a bigger supporter of Israel than you are sir. And I supporter of much of the Environmental movement.

P.S.
Also don't quote me that Drill here and drill now is the answer. Go to this website www.eia.doe.gov... and tell me why we are producing no more than 5 billion Barrels a day when back in the oil crisis of the 1970's we were producing 9 billion barrels a day.



[edit on 27-2-2010 by sirbikesalot06]

Originally posted by Yissachar1
I have come to realize that there is some ill educated people on this site so here are just a few things that that Jews have done:
.... Benjamin Disraeli Prime Minister of Great Britain 1804-1881 ....

It's probably better if you've left Disraeli out of the list of illustrious Jewish heroes. Disraeli is credited by some as the instigator of British Imperialism in the 19th century, the exploitation and taking of wealth from many of her colonies.