Mossad's checkered history

Had this guy lived and got some more fireworks went home and pissed of Israle, so that in their responce many civilians were killed. Then some would say hay why didnt they just kill this blood sucker when they had the chance.

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I am from New Zealand and am proud we do not treat people like the Israelis treat the Palestinians. Or let me guess, you thought I must be from the U.S. because you are even unaware of other countries. Because YOU are so important.

Typical uneducated attitude and proves my point perfectly.

I was Pro-Israeli, until I had to spend some time with its Defense Forces staff. Not only was I told exactly what they think of the Palestinians once they knew I was 100% behind them, but matching that up with 20 years of "watching" leaves no room for speculation as to I was spoken to by a minority group.

I will forever be ashamed I ever supported Israel.

At its very core is a racist , supremest state that has no place in today's world.

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Dont yous guys have sort of a checkerd past with the native New Zealanders?

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Here it is.

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reply to post by thedeadtruth


I have served in the British army and the IDF.. Your comment is also ill informed and irrational.. You say you are from NZ, but how am i supposed to know that?? I am not an indigo child or any other lune on this site who pretends to have power.. Rain yourself in sunshine.. Your horns are showing!

Dude.. You sit in peace.... Try being at war for 60 years!!... That is where we are at.. Squaddies will dehumanise the enemy through language coz they are trying and have already killed our wives, sisters, brothers or someone who I was having a chat too on a bus or in maccy d's...
They kill my family , or terrorise my friend with rockets... Then they get what they deserve... Screw em... They have had plenty of opportunity to make peace.. Yet they throw it away because they do not want to accept a Jewish state.. Well.. We wont go quietly.. maybe we should tun the whole middle east into an ashtray with all the nukes we have huh???

Bloody hell!!

reply to post by Logarock


I am a native, part.

But you are right, every country has a past. But that is before basic human rights were considered the norm for all races.

Israel and its supporters are backward in this regard, and the same as most 19th century ideals , they have no place in today's world.

No wonder you don't believe in evolution, you have not evolved and who knows maybe you are incapable.

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I was going to say what a good responce untill you insulted me.


Think of it this way the Jews were like long lost natives to that land. This is some evolution no? People reclaiming thier ancestral homes? No? And all the tribes around them cant evolve up to this challange but remain rasist and greedy for it all.

But what we are discussing here is racist attitude behind Zionism Yes.

The long held belief that the land is promised to a certain race so can be taken by force. I agree with nationalism, but I can never agree with anyone who promotes Zionism.

No "good" person could.

reply to post by Logarock


Please note. Since my "rude awakening" I did a lot of study and found out about the whole Zionism, Stern Gang, founding fathers of Israel's ideas. I do not see how any reasonably minded person could agree with it.

Unless you happen of course to be one of the "choose few" and have something to make on it. But in that case your opinion is biased by greed or religious beliefs.

And to prove my point, answer this one question.....

Did God promise the land to anybody, and if who ? If you can not or will not answer, consider your opinion debunked.

Originally posted by thedeadtruth
But what we are discussing here is racist attitude behind Zionism Yes.

The long held belief that the land is promised to a certain race so can be taken by force. I agree with nationalism, but I can never agree with anyone who promotes Zionism.

No "good" person could.

Well you cant have a good discussion on this topic and limit it to Zionism. And you dont have the pleasure of beating your opponet into a corner with your definition of Zionism and then going from there. Most of the nagitve info on Zionism is anti Zion propaganda anyway and I simply reject it and wont be schooled with it. No good person would.

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Well remember you brought up God first. And yes its theirs he gave it to them. He has also removed them from it several times with a fury.

reply to post by Logarock


" And yes its theirs he gave it to them. "

Sorry mate but you are a religious nutter and a dangerous person. In my opinion you should be locked up.

Its mine because my imaginary God gave it to me ......

I do not think you truly comprehend what you believe.

That certain people have more rights than others, based solely on race ?

That is an evil, evil idea. And should be destroyed at all costs.

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Really man did you think that was a big set up? You still cant talk issues here. Just a "nutter" like this is a school yard or something.

But you probably dont mind the Jews being driven into the ocean just becouse they may belive that?

You cant even begin to understand what is going on from both sides in the middle east without understanding the religious and racial element. Dont you have a dragon to slay?

Originally posted by thedeadtruth
I do not think you truly comprehend what you believe.

That certain people have more rights than others, based solely on race ?

That is an evil, evil idea. And should be destroyed at all costs.

Hay didnt General Custer say that?

Yes and look what happened to him.

Come on man, you can not possibly say that certain rights are only given to one race. Do you even understand how that comes across?

Or don't you care because you will just kill anyone who questions it, man woman or child ?

Well, it is looking more and more like a job done by the Mossad. However, they are not going to come out and fess up to the operation. It would defeat the purpose of it being covert. Now, is state sanctioned assassination intolerable and inhumane? That is in the eye of the beholder. However, I would like to think that these extreme measures are a last ditch effort to stem the bleeding caused by a particular terrorist or leader of a violent nation. In any event, the aforementioned statement is not entirely how it works in some cases, and can be perceived as a knee-jerk reaction.

Now, the man who was assassinated is turning out to be an unsavory person in their own right? It is alleged that he advocated the destruction of another nation, has been implicated in attacks on civilians, and may be behind some of the rocket attacks on Israel? I just hope this assassination is not used as a marketing ploy by Hamas to turn this man into a martyr for their self imposed just cause?

Clearly, from what I have read concerning this man's checkered past, he is a sinister and vile murderer. He should not be praised but ridiculed for the crimes he has committed against civilians in Israel by the Palestinian people. The Palestinian's are never going to get anywhere supporting terrorism and advocating the destruction of a country that will be its neighbor in the event they receive a country of their own.

When they can show these leaders the door, the sooner statehood will reach fruition. They are being used as cannon-fodder for a few power thirsty individuals in both the Fatah and Hamas leadership for their own personal agenda, rather than the agenda of the people as a whole. This leadership likes to walk around like they are the martyrs and fighting a just war?
When in all reality, by attacking Israeli civilians, they are no different than Hitler, Stalin, or Mao. To put it simply, just a bunch of exploitative power hungry thugs. Then, they are bold enough to skirt complicity in the violence they themselves' have brought to the Palestinian people by their own culture of hate and lies when Israel responds in retaliation after one of their terrorist attacks.

I disagree with the means of how he was removed, however, who am I to say? It is all a matter of perception, some would consider it a necessary evil, while other will detest it. I just don't want Hamas using his assassination as means to make a martyr out of him and to shore up their power even further. The man killed in this assassination, was a monster and the world is a better place without him.




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Man everybody beefs about that these days from the Irish to the american indian casinos, Tibet, and on it goes. Why should Isarel be any diffrent?

reply to post by Logarock


Because its the year 2010 and Zionist still believe and make policies on purely racist ideas. They still steal land and kill people based solely on racist ideas.

We are not talking Historical abuse here, we are talking active racism being promoted today in a country and by a people that openly ( as you did by stating Gods promise to "only you" before ) to be above all else.

Am I missing something, or you need it spelled out. EVIL, EVIL, EVIL IDEA.