Do we have the names of everyone who was involved in these cases? Who were the defense lawyers? Who were the judges involved? Were any of these clowns
from Pat Robertson's Law school?
Who were the officials that signed to close the case?
Who was "the guy they blamed" who "killed himself"? Could we have an update on the background of exactly what happened? How likely is it that he
committed suicide?
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Topic started on 19-2-2010 @ 07:46 PM by NorEaster
Today, the government tossed these two chestnuts out in a classic Friday news dump. The hell of it is that these two stories are closely related to
one another.
First story, the FBI has officially closed the Anthrax Attacks case. This means that no one will be looking further into this case than the guy they blamed - who killed himself - and who, it's been proven, was nowhere near New Jersey when the letters where mailed from there. It's also been proven that he never had access to the weaponzied version of the spores that he did have access to. He also never had the available technology to weaponize the spores he had access to. That stated, this case is now closed.
news.yahoo.com...
and
The Bush WH lawyers who fabricated the "legal justification" for torture (the torture memos) have been completely let off the hook by the US Justice Department. Of course, that won't prevent the British Government from trying them in absentia. This establishes the legal precedence that torture is now an American war tactic, and no longer considered a war crime in this nation. It is still considered a war crime in every other nation that we have treaties with.
www.msnbc.msn.com...
How are these two stories related?
The reason for the Anthrax Attacks was to warn our leaders that the Bush Admin crimes (9/11 and onward) would never be prosecuted regardless of the party in control of the levers of power. 4 letters - a warning about the many, many more letters waiting to be mailed if any of these crimes were prosecuted. You won't ever see a 9/11 reinvestigation, and you'll never see any Bush Admin people prosecuted for the criminal activities they perpetrated. The Anthrax threat is still out there, and will protect them regardless of the crimes they committed, and regardless of the crimes they have yet to commit.
First story, the FBI has officially closed the Anthrax Attacks case. This means that no one will be looking further into this case than the guy they blamed - who killed himself - and who, it's been proven, was nowhere near New Jersey when the letters where mailed from there. It's also been proven that he never had access to the weaponzied version of the spores that he did have access to. He also never had the available technology to weaponize the spores he had access to. That stated, this case is now closed.
news.yahoo.com...
and
The Bush WH lawyers who fabricated the "legal justification" for torture (the torture memos) have been completely let off the hook by the US Justice Department. Of course, that won't prevent the British Government from trying them in absentia. This establishes the legal precedence that torture is now an American war tactic, and no longer considered a war crime in this nation. It is still considered a war crime in every other nation that we have treaties with.
www.msnbc.msn.com...
How are these two stories related?
The reason for the Anthrax Attacks was to warn our leaders that the Bush Admin crimes (9/11 and onward) would never be prosecuted regardless of the party in control of the levers of power. 4 letters - a warning about the many, many more letters waiting to be mailed if any of these crimes were prosecuted. You won't ever see a 9/11 reinvestigation, and you'll never see any Bush Admin people prosecuted for the criminal activities they perpetrated. The Anthrax threat is still out there, and will protect them regardless of the crimes they committed, and regardless of the crimes they have yet to commit.
reply posted on 22-2-2010 @ 06:47 AM by NorEaster
Originally posted by Alethea
Do we have the names of everyone who was involved in these cases? Who were the defense lawyers? Who were the judges involved? Were any of these clowns from Pat Robertson's Law school?
Who were the officials that signed to close the case?
Who was "the guy they blamed" who "killed himself"? Could we have an update on the background of exactly what happened? How likely is it that he committed suicide?
Defense lawyers? Ivins was never charged until he'd already killed himself. The FBI was getting set to arrest him and had even promised his own son a brand new tricked-out Mustang if the kid would testify againt his dad. Hell, no wonder the guy lost his marbles in the end and killed himself.
There's plenty out there on the Anthrax case, and use Google to get what you need on the torture memos case. This thread assumes that you already have done the work required to know these very high profile cases.
By the way, this is one of the assertions that the FBI made about why they fingered Ivins in this case. Has all the fingerprints of the classic Bush era storytime evidence narrative. All speculation sold as fact.
By the way, to weaponize Anthrax, to the degree that this stuff was weaponized, Ivins would have needed access to rare and extremely restricted environment-centric technology (highly sophisticated engineered environment chambers) - which he didn't have access to - and he would've needed about three years uninterrupted control over those chambers. Then, he would've needed access to static-centric anti-caking technology - to ensure that the Anthrax would resist clumping after being ground to 1-5 micron size particles (without destroying the spores, which requires technology that only the US and Great Britain possess). This is how sophisticated the weaponized Anthrax that was used in the attacks was. Bruce Ivins only had access the the "wet spores", since he was in the business of trying to find a vaccine for Anthrax.
The FBI never even bothered to address the issue of access to the technology that Ivins would have needed to weaponize the stuff. They never bothered to explain how he would have had weaponized Anthrax sitting around to use as a follow-up to the 9/11 Attacks (remember, it takes years to weaponize this stuff to the degree that this stuff was engineered). He never had access to weaponized Anthrax, and they just say "he got ahold of it" when pressed about the difficulty and equipment he would have needed (as well as the expertise needed) to perform highly classified weaponizing techniques that very few even know.
He was a bit eccentric before the FBI went after him (once the first guy's "slam dunk" case went sour) but he wasn't nuts. The FBI ripped his family apart, amnd the guy unhinged, but that was well after the attacks occurred.
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