Hospital asks my sister to prepay for having her baby., page 3


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reply posted on 20-2-2010 @ 07:44 AM by marg6043
reply to post by Greenize


We are indenture servants from the time we are born to the federal government is just that people doesn't get it after all this years.


reply posted on 20-2-2010 @ 07:46 AM by marg6043
reply to post by defcon5


Public schools have more private interest invested on them that you may realize.



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reply posted on 20-2-2010 @ 08:17 AM by cjcord
There's something wrong here.

if in the US, with insurance that has a co-pay- you are not required to pay it up front if it is a medical necessity. If they are insisting you are- they are lying to you.

The only way they would require you to pay the co-pay up front in a delivery situation is if it is a voluntary procedure.

If a C-section is medically necessary, and the ob knows this, all your sister has to do is wait until labor begins, and show up at the hospital she planned to.

if this is a preplanned C-section for conveniences sake- she will need to pay up front.

Most, if not all hospitals in the US are covered by charity care, called different things in different areas, but all the same program. Those without insurance are covered for medically necessary procedures, the rest is sorted out after by sliding scale or income requirements.

The statement that all pregnant women are eligible for medicaid is not quite true. Most are, but there are some who may have an income well above any limitations of the medicaid system, or have pre-existing insurance, which makes them uneligible.

In may states there is a safety-net plans, for those who are not eligible for full medicaid, but still need financial assistance for insurance. They get a plan that pays a sliding percentage of fees, while still being covered for all emergencies.


Your sister should check with the state medicaid board, and see where she is eligible for supplemental state insurance, based on financial need. Of course, this is if the procedure is a medical necessity, and not just a convenience.

Hope that helps!


reply posted on 20-2-2010 @ 08:48 AM by mysticalzoe
reply to post by defcon5


umm you are at work and on a forum??? What is wrong with this picture??? No wonder people at hospitals are such uncaring jerks!! They are all forums, you should have never said you were at work, if I was in charge of you and I found you on a forum, you would be fired!


reply posted on 20-2-2010 @ 09:18 AM by marg6043
reply to post by Immortal_Reiku2010


Actually, hospitals can not deny services to anyone, if you are having a baby and are already do, driving to the emergency room will ensure service regardless of insurance or not.

Then after the service the hospital will go after the payments.

This is how illegals get treatment and then run away leaving the tap to the tax payer.

Why no tax payer citizens doing the same? because they can track you more easily for payments.

Still is non profit hospitals that will work with the patient if money is not available at the moment.

In my neck of the woods we have a great hospital that is non profit but through donations they are able to give back to the community and save money to people that can not afford services.



reply posted on 20-2-2010 @ 09:20 AM by pumpkinorange
Originally posted by woodwardjnr
Originally posted by pumpkinorange
Originally posted by xynephadyn
Originally posted by pumpkinorange
Originally posted by xynephadyn
And to this day, I havent paid a cent.


How do you feel about receiving a service and paying nothing for it?


I AM ON MEDICARE BECAUSE I AM DISABLED BECAUSE I HAVE MULTIPLE SCLEROSIS- ASSHAT


So you havee resigned youself to being a non-producing citizen? Just a free rider for the rest of your life?

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posts like this sicken me, god help you nothing ever happens to you or your family in your life.

I was diagnosed with brain tumor at 22, not been back to work since, being what you would call a free rider, but dont you think everyday i wake up wishing i never had this disease so i could enjoy life like normal people my age, not having to live with my parents and face scans every few months. a brain tumor and a life on wealthare is not a life style choice. Neither for those suffering MS or any other chronic illness.

Your lack of sympathy is what is wrong in the world. Just remember no ones invincible and at some time in your life you or one of your nearest and dearest may have to free ride at some point.

I am thankfull I live in a society that provides a safety net for it's citizens.


Safety net, yes. Permanent, no. You are using the exception to override the rule. I won't question your situation. But frankly sympathy runs both ways. Poeple who work hard to pay the taxes to support people who want and seek things from the govt for "free", should at least consider there are others, yes many with "diabilities", working every day to subsidize those who drain the system. There is NO free lunch folks.
I have a good friend who has MS and she has a good job. While she qualifies for disability, she has chosen to not withdraw from thwe wrok world, which is part of life.
The very fact that folks can think and post and hang around on ATS indicates they have something productive they can contribute to the society and from which they can take pride in themselves.


reply posted on 20-2-2010 @ 09:24 AM by marg6043
reply to post by pumpkinorange


Sad thing is that we the tax payer, paid for those that can not afford to have insurance and lack of job and has done for a long time.

That is what Medicare and Medicaid is, we get gouged by the government every payday with the Medicare entitlement program just like taxes and SS, is taken out of our checks regardless.

Still when it comes to state level and local hospitals we get also taxed to pay for those that can not, double time and triple time over and over again.


reply posted on 20-2-2010 @ 09:28 AM by cjcord
reply to post by pumpkinorange


so because you know someone who is technically disabled but can still work, anyone who cannot work due to a disability is...lying? Lazy?

Oh, I see. Generalizations are fun, I know.

And because they can post on a message board means they can work a set schedule and maintain productivity?

I wasn't aware we had tasks set to us on ATS. perhaps we would be better set to not consider ANYONE disabled unless they are blind, mute and deaf...oh and paralyzed.

Do you not see how ridiculous you sound?


reply posted on 20-2-2010 @ 09:35 AM by marg6043
reply to post by cjcord


On, that I strongly disagree, the only thing that bothers me the most is how much of our tax payer money goes to people that are illegal in the US, I have not problem with people in real need of help.

Is people in need and those that ride the system and tax payer money by choice.

Look at my parents, hard working people all their lives now elderly and on Medicare, most of their life savings has gone to pay for the big pharma profits on medications.

Because thanks to Bush and his nice closed doors meetings with the big pharma they are now gouging their SS checks to pay for medications 200 dollars a month each and still the funny thing is that the medications are still expensive to them, even with my mother having a secondary private insurance paid by my sister because her hart conditions and diabetes, while my father had not choice but rely for the first time in his life on a veteran hospital that he is entitle as a Korean war veteran.

Life for hard working tax payers in their senior years is looking very sad and ugly.


reply posted on 20-2-2010 @ 09:58 AM by cjcord
reply to post by marg6043



This is why I added you to my friend list. I agree with you on every point. I too am a bit tired of being asked to support those who come here simply because it's easy to.


meanwhile, my family cannot get any assistance needed because we don't fit into a quota. Yes, I am angry that I have had to do the research to be able to know what rights I have as a citizen and had to fight for it, while many people waltz in and out without even having to speak the language or comply with any legalities.

But that has nothing to do with the topic. So i will stop ranting.


reply posted on 20-2-2010 @ 10:25 AM by dawnstar
reply to post by cjcord


that's not to mention,
are the employers really willing to adapt a job for the disabled.
I can't lift much weight and expect to be able to walk all week. that's a fact. but well, even a job at your local 7/11 is gonna expect you to stock the cases of beer and sodas into the freezer. so well, I can forget about those jobs! I very rarely see a job that I am qualified for, that I would also be willing to do because I hold my ability to walk so sacred!!

those who are truly disabled (unfortuately, there are quite a few that aren't really!!), and the elderly deserve some of our taxmoney....
and, how do you know that the disabled aren't being productive? grandmas watch grandchildren, so single moms can go to work, they might be helping neighbors and friends, there are plenty of things to do that doesn't pay a paycheck, and yet, our world is a better place for it! even posting on forums!
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