Snowstorms debunk climate change? What snowstorms?., page 2

Originally posted by metamagic
Nope, off topic is off topic no matter how desperately you want it to be AGW, ti jsut wasn't.

For crying out loud... AGW is EXACTLY what those members have been denying.... The claim that mankind is the cause of the WARMING.....

Originally posted by metamagic
The ones I saw were debunking global warming, claiming that there was no data showing warming for 10 years and that the earth was getting cooler. they did not reference AGW just global warming. Tell you what, why not post a link to one of these guys where they say that there IS natural global warming because I haven't seen it.

And they are at least partially right... There have been COOLING trends, not only in the atmosphere, but also in the oceans...

You do know that the oceans store more energy than the atmosphere ever will right?...

Here is a graph of the global sea surface temperatures since 2002.

Now look at the following graph of the Global surface temperatures.

Don't scream "i win" and look at the graph on the top right which shows the changes in temperatures since 1999 until 2008. The graph shows a downward trend...that is a cooling trend...

You do notice that it shows a trend downwards right? That's what those members are refering to.

The AGW scientists were claiming the earth would continuously continue to warm because of CO2, and that hasn't happened...

What we have seen, and continue to experience is NATURAL Climate Change....

BTW Natural Climate Change doesn't mean just "WARMING".... it means change sin the climate either cooling, or warming, or both...

What we have been experiencing are trends in both cooling, and warming...

All over the globe there have been records winters... it hasn't been just local...it has been global...

When the Sun's activity started slowing down to a crawl global temperatures dipped, and then as the interstellar shield weakened more and more, more radiation from outside the Solar System entered the inner Solar System, and scientists found that this radiation from some unknown source has been warming the Earth's atmosphere.

Originally posted by metamagic
Just take a look at some of the threads on ATS and look at the articles and videos they link to. They're there,

Most of them are talking about the AGW claim that there would be continuous warming because according to the AGW scientists/scammers CO2 is the main cause of Climate Change.... But of course this is wrong...

I am not going to repeat myself. You are the one claiming members have been saying natural Climate change is not happening...when they have been talking about the AGW claim/scam...

Originally posted by metamagic
Not what I said, I linked weather phenomena to el nino as opposed to saying they were evidence of clmate change. I said nothing about el nino being related or not related to climate change. Argue with what I said not what you imagined I said.

What I imagined you said?...

Let me once again post what YOU said....

Originally posted by metamagic
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3. Both weather anomalies are due to El Nino (this is well knows) -- neither the snowstorms OR warm winter in Ottawa have ANYTHING to do with climate change.
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BTW...snowstorms all over the globe, and the differences in temperatures all over the globe as well as El Nino have EVERYTHING to do with Climate Change.... that is "NATURAL Climate change".

Originally posted by metamagic
And as for talking to scientists, I do every day, and in fact, I even have sex with a couple of them.. And one smoking hot engineer too.

now who is imagining things.... Just because a person has an engineering degree DOES NOT MAKE THEM SCIENTISTS.... as for your either imagined, or real sexual encounters they don't prove that you are "among scientific circles".....

Originally posted by metamagic
That's not climate change, that's just climate.

wow..... so the seasons do not show a natural cycle of Climate Change now?... Oh boy...you are puting both feet in your mouth more and more....

Originally posted by metamagic
I wonder why no one in the snowstorms debunk global climate change camp seem to have heard of el Nino?
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Nope, don't see in that quote where I claim climate destabilization is caused by humans. All I see is a questions as to why climate destabilization debunkers did not consider a fairly standard explanation.

For crying out loud you have been continuously claiming that members, the media, and Glenn Beck are "Climate Change debunkers".... WHEN WE HAVE BEEN DEBUNKING THE AGW SCAM.....

There...in large words to see if it enters your thick skull....

I am not wasting my time with someone trying to pass as a scientist when you keep showing not to even know what you are talking about...

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