An amazing experience with Reiki, page 1

reply to post by bringthelight

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Yes! Reiki is so amazing. I had my first session a couple of years ago. I felt like my body was moving through the universe as I was laying there and at certain times during the session I felt heat and pressure on parts of my body even though the practitioner wasn't physically touching me. So awesome. Thanks for reminding me of that great experience

reply to post by bringthelight

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Do you know the difference between traditional Japanese Reiki and other forms?

reply to post by lavenderlake

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Im glad you had a good experience, I wish you many more.

Traditional Japanese Reiki stems from a man named Mikao Usui. From there is spread out to Hawaii and eventually through the west because of Hawayo Takata, one of Usui's disciples. There are several different off-shoots of traditional Usui Reiki, mainly to do with how it is taught to others, but the general practice remains the same. Reiki masters are just good at channeling energy. I believe as long as you can feel it flowing through your hands, you can do no wrong.


[edit on 18-2-2010 by bringthelight]

[edit on 18-2-2010 by bringthelight]

I'm not familiar with the practice of Reiki, but unless a demonstrable beneficial effect can be observed under controlled conditions with large enough sample groups, you're going to have a hard time convincing me there's anything to it. I'll look into the practice a bit more after finishing this post, and I'm just hoping it's not something silly like those "Chakra alignment" therapies.

I'm relieved that trying it has managed to ease your pain without necessitating a regiment of pain killers indefinitely. The Placebo/Nocebo effect may be entirely self-persuasion, but the effect is still real and demonstrable. Because of this, I have little problem with others seeking and practicing alternative medicine therapies. As I see it, it's only a problem if the alternative therapy itself is harmful, it dissuades patients from seeking proper medical attention, or if it's advocates engage in self-promotion by slandering and attacking evidence based medicine.

That you've sought help for your pain management via proper medical treatment, and then turned to alternative medicine as an alternative or supplementary therapy is the smart way to go about it. Actually, I might have even encouraged you to try it sooner than you have... though, again, only for the potential placebo/self-persuasion effect.



I recall a anecdote Michael Crichton gave during a speech a few years back, which seems to be applicable here.

You may know that Australian aborigines fear a curse called "pointing the bone." A shaman shakes a bone at a person, and sings a song, and soon after, the person dies. This is a specific example of a phenomenon generally referred to as "hex death" — a person is cursed by an authority figure, and then dies. According to medical studies, the person generally dies of dehydration, implying they just give up. But the progression is very erratic, and shock symptoms may play a part, suggesting adrenal effects of fright and hopelessness.

Yet this deadly curse is nothing but information. And it can be undone with information.

A friend of mine was an intern at Bellvue Hospital in New York. A 28-year old man from Aruba said he was going to die, because he had been cursed. He was admitted for psychiatric evaluation and found to be normal, but his health steadily declined. My friend was able to rehydrate him, balance his electrolytes, and give him nutrients, but nevertheless the man worsened, insisting that he was cursed and there was nothing that could prevent his death. My friend realized that the patient would, in fact, soon die. The situation was desperate. Finally he told the patient that he, the doctor, was going to invoke his own powerful medicine to undo the curse, and his medicine was more powerful than any other. He got together with the house staff, bought some headdresses and rattles, and danced around the patient in the middle of the night, chanting what they hoped would be effective-sounding phrases. The patient showed no reaction, but next day he began to improve. The man went home a few days later. My friend literally saved his life.

Source Speech: Complexity & Climate

Now, I've heard the story several times attributed to several different doctors, locations, and decades. It's a popular apocryphal tale, and it shouldn't be surprising that a fiction writer would present a fictional anecdote. Perhaps it's one of those "obvious inside jokes" we non-medical folk are oblivious to and take at face value. Despite the tale-weaving, the stories are based on verifiable events and well documented case studies. The effect is very real, even if the personalized details are not.

NCBI PubMed: Hex death: Voodoo magic or Persuasion?

NCBI - PubMed: Voodoo Death

Cleaveland Clinic Journal of Medicine: "Voodoo" death revisited - The modern lessons of neurocardiology. (Full Text)

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reply to post by bringthelight

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You can check out qigong -- reiki is similar -- although the real healing masters sit in full lotus:

www.youtube.com...

www.springforestqigong.com...

reply to post by Lasheic

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I agree, I was taught that reiki was never meant to replace medical treatment. It is a complementary therapy. If you have a broken bone, see a doctor first, and maybe a few reiki treatments after to help with the healing process.

You brought another great point when talking about alternative therapies which was the placebo effect. I think there is a placebo effect that goes along with any type of medical attention or therapy. I even had a thread on the placebo effect awhile back and how a study showed it was increasing to the point where pharmaceutical companies are getting scared. I thought about this and even asked when my instructor. I personally remember going in not expecting much from the whole thing and I had a life shifting event. My instructor said some of her most skeptical patients were affected the most by reiki.

The good thing about it is there is no diagnosing or trying to figure things out. You let healing energy flow through you and thats it. Your body is its own greatest healer, it knows what do do with the energy. Hope that helps.

reply to post by drew hempel

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Thats really weird...I actually came across the first video you linked today and watched it...synchronicity. I am actually interested in qigong as well. The original reiki master, Dr. Usui, did a form of japanese qigong and loved the healing effects it had. He wondered if he could find a way to do this without using his own chi energy and feeling depleted after. After 21 days of solitude and no food/water in a mountain in Japan, he had a mystical experience and reiki was born. It is like qigong but you are not draining your own energy. You channel it and it empowers you as you treat others. I always feel charged after doing a treatment.

You should try it sometime!

reply to post by bringthelight

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Ha! I did 8 days on just half glass of water so I know exactly what he's talking about. Chunyi Lin did 49 days with no sleep, no water and no food - - by sitting in full lotus the whole time -- at qigongmaster.com...

So I know the secret how to heal while recharging yourself. A book with the secrets is "Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality" translated by Charles Luk.

I just sit in full-lotus as the electrochemical energy is sucked in through the bottom of the body and the electromagnetic energy is shot out of the third eye as the healing energy. So you heal yourself by healing others -- it's a win win situation. Best of all the full lotus can not be faked.

reply to post by drew hempel

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Yes, I believe it all comes from the same place, universal life energy, spirit, chi, reiki. Its all about being conscious enough and in touch with your body to be able to let it flow through you. Getting a reiki attunement opens up your chakras and nadis so the energy can easily flow through you. It really is amazing stuff and I commend you for doing 8 days. You must have come out a fresh new view on life.

reply to post by zippy1958

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Thats great to hear, i felt the same way about the meds. So happy to not need them.

As far as attunements, my first one I had some small weird sensations and opened my eyes once to see if her hands were on my feet, (i would have bet 1 million dollars the were) and she wad her hands up by my crown about 6 inches off. But my second attunement was the doozie. I had a feeling that cant be described growing from inside my skull. I thought I was about to snap out of my body and this dimension. I tried describing it to my teacher after and just stopped talking mid-sentence because i started to feel it again.

It has really just opened up my whole world to the mystery of being. I just love hearing how it has affected others lives, and I just sent to your friend Mike. Wish you both well.

reply to post by bringthelight

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bringthelight I am so happy for you, a smart girlfriend, I have a close friend in San Francisco who has been a Reiki Practitioner for many years, thankfully I have never had any health problems but she did give me a well treatment in the eighties, she in fact tried to talk me into becoming a Practitioner but I did not pursue it.

Originally posted by lavenderlake
reply to post by bringthelight

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Yes! Reiki is so amazing. I had my first session a couple of years ago. I felt like my body was moving through the universe as I was laying there and at certain times during the session I felt heat and pressure on parts of my body even though the practitioner wasn't physically touching me. So awesome. Thanks for reminding me of that great experience

Thank YOU, Lavederlake

your phrase, 'even though the practitioner wasn't physically touching me'

PLUS the experience you posted

have finally explained something to me


Many years ago, I attended the rooms of Andrew Watson (brother of author Lyall Watson of 'Supernature' and other very popular books fame)

All I knew of him at the time was that he was a well-regarded 'alternate healer'

In fact, I'd been asked by him to go see him in regard to a completely different matter. Anyway, several visits later, he suggested he do some 'energy balancing' work on me

As I lay there, he moved his hands back and forth above my body. I had no expectations and knew nothing about alternative healing methods

After a few minutes I closed my eyes. Out of politeness basically. Because I could see up his nose, see the hairs in his nose. And I felt it was an invasion of his privacy

Not sure how much longer later, I found myself flying through the air. Literally. Except now, I had no sense of being 'myself'. There was no 'me' involved. Best way I can describe it is to liken myself to a video camera. I was just 'filming' things as I moved over them. There was no thought process, no 'thinking'. Just witnessing/filming without any thought or analysis or commentary or feelings of being 'me'. Just a camera

The camera flew over somewhere in Asia. At the time, I had no sense of self, so didn't say silently to myself, 'Gee, I'm in Asia'. No. It was only after it was over that I was able to identify it based on the memory/recording of what I'd seen

There were people down below tending to watery crops. Some of them wore pointy, wide-brimmed hats. Others wore scarves. They didn't look up or indicate awareness of the 'camera' flying over them. They behaved completely unaware and naturally

After a while of that, moving very fast indeed, I was flying along a street. It was narrow and consisted of a kind of bazaar at street level. Some of the street-level dwellings were shops. Above them were residences. They looked old. The buildings leaned towards each other a bit, above the street. Some had closed-in looking balconies which jutted even further out above the street. There were ropes or something from one building to another on the other side of the narrow street. Stuff was hanging on some of the ropes, maybe washing, don't know. I flew straight through them, fast. Didn't feel a thing. The street below was crowded, again with Asian-looking people. The overall light was dim or darkened

I flew along this street. I passed through things. I was going fast

Ahead of me was a man. Asian. Wearing one of the pointy Asian looking hats. He had a light or maybe greyish goatee. He was taller than many of those around him. He walked very straight -- upright, not bent over. He had a stick over one shoulder with things attached at the ends. He was looking straight ahead of him as he walked. He had a calm face. He was dead ahead of me. I went straight through him, fast. He showed no awareness at all

There was more, but the above is what I remember most. Most of it was moving through space, above things and people and buildings below. Moving fast

The healer asked me to open my eyes. I was filled with what I'd just seen. I was absolutely amazed and said to him, ' I just went to China. I think it was China. How did you do that ? '

He wasn't interested in discussing it. In fact, he basically cut me short with a sort of impatient expression and sound. I think he said, ' I didn't do anything' or words to that effect, meaning he wasn't responsible for what I'd experienced. The strong impression I received was that he had focussed on energy-balancing and that was the important factor, with any side effects (such as flying disembodied and unaware to the other side of the world) being incidental and non-important

Then, while washing his hands, he said something about that was it for this week ... see me next week. He said he'd attempted (he was always very understated, quietly-spoken, measured, unemotional, etc.) to balance my energies, effect a cleansing. I can't remember much of that because my head was still full of what I'd just experienced ... I was reeling, amazed, stunned, etc.

The following week, he asked if I'd noticed any effects of the previous week's 'cleansing' and energy balancing

I'm usually quite honest and frank, so I've never really understood why I behaved as I did that day. I certainly had experienced something. To be polite about it, I'd experienced something similar to a massive dose of laxatives a few hours after returning home from the healer. I'd also fainted dead, like a log falling. I'd gone down straight, full length. When I came-to, it was weird. My head was hurting unbelievably. And I could hear a weird noise, even before I regained consciousness

I finally came conscious to first see a big ceiling-light, which blinded me. Then I realised where I was -- in a commercial-style kitchen at my friend's house. The floor was solid concrete beneath thin commercial-covering. The refrigerator (source of the weird humming noise) was inches from me. I was probably concussed. Had a massive lump on my skull for ages, and headaches

But instead of admitting any of that the following week, I pretended to be vague and said, 'No, not really' in response to the healer's question about had I experienced or noticed anything out of the oridinary as result, possibly, of the 'energy balancing' he'd done

I'm a hopeless liar. I knew that. And knew he knew I was lying to him. But I was angry with him, to be honest. I'd been at a friend's house when I'd suffered the sudden 'laxatives effect' and brain-squashing faint onto a concret floor. What if it had happened when I was driving ? Or cooking at home for my children ?

So I refused to admit I'd experienced anything as result of the energy balancing. It was pretty personal, anyway. I wasn't going to admit to him that he'd caused me to have a 'laxatives effect', or that I'd nearly killed myself by fainting like a tree falling ---- nothing to break my fall except the back of my skull

He stared at me and raised his eyebrows, as if to prompt me to tell the truth. And I thought, ' Ok. You obviously know what happened to me already, so why ask ? Do you just want confirmation of your powers ? Ego ? Then why didn't you warn me in advance of what was going to happen ? And why refuse to discuss what caused me to 'fly to China ' ?

And now, thanks to you, Lavenderlake ..... I know the name for what it was: reiki. What I'd been calling 'energy balancing' is reiki ! Thank you . Now that I know the name, I might do it again. Because it was great. I'd always thought what happened to me was maybe 'astral travel' ... I've never really known

Interesting thing is, even though it happened in 1984, I can still remember a lot of what I saw (the people down in the watery pastures, the leaning-together buildings, and especially the tall man I flew straight through). I can remember it as if it had really happened, in real life



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(tried to edit the mistakes ... my keyboard's struggling, thanks to a pile of seed-beeds being dropped into it )

[edit on 18-2-2010 by Dock9]

reply to post by zippy1958

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And thank YOU, too

Didn't realise reiki could help physical ailments

I have arthritis-type problems too. Happened in the last ten years, even though no-one else in my family have ever suffered from it. I've wondered if it has anything to do with the very heavy Chemtrailing in our area, because I've only had the problem since moving here

Anyway, thanks again for mentioning arthritis. Just another very good reason to try to find an experienced reiki practitioner

reply to post by ATSdelurker

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If you are near the Boston area I would be happy to give you a treatment. If not try googling reiki practitioners in your area. People with a legitimate practice usually have websites. Some spas will have a certified reiki practitioner on hand as well.

As far as reikis ability to heal certain ailments such as myopia, floaters, arthritis, yes it works. It works on pretty much anything because of its approach. It is kind of a whole mind/body/soul balancing act that takes place. Rather than just treating the symptoms, it acts to balance your emotional state as well which can sometimes be the underlying cause of physical ailments. A lot of patients have seen will have an emotional release. Crying is not uncommon. The healing works from the inside out. So yes reiki would be great for all things mentioned.

I must say though, reiki is complementary. Its not meant to replace actual medical treatment. IF you have a broken leg, go see a doctor, and then have reiki done to aid the healing process.

I have since became a Reiki practitioner myself and I give myself and others treatments every day. If you or anyone you know has had an experience with Reiki I would love to hear it. Also if anyone would like me to send them a distance treatment please let me know and I would be happy to do so.

I knew that,that was going to be your last statement.

I have always wanted to learn Reiki but just never found the time.I have practiced some form of it ever since I was a small child.Others have seen me do it and I have helped people to.

I could tell you all an amazing story but I don't want to hijack this thread.

Short story,I helped a 38 year old woman with one ovary and less than six eggs in her one working ovary get pregnant twice in two years.

They had been trying since they had gotten married 15 years before.

The doctor called the first birth a miracle and was just flabbergasted the second time.

And this is what they look like today.

I called it energy transfer healing,because I had not heard of Reiki.



[edit on 19-2-2010 by Oneolddude]

Originally posted by bringthelight
reply to post by zippy1958

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Thats great to hear, i felt the same way about the meds. So happy to not need them.

As far as attunements, my first one I had some small weird sensations and opened my eyes once to see if her hands were on my feet, (i would have bet 1 million dollars the were) and she wad her hands up by my crown about 6 inches off. But my second attunement was the doozie. I had a feeling that cant be described growing from inside my skull. I thought I was about to snap out of my body and this dimension. I tried describing it to my teacher after and just stopped talking mid-sentence because i started to feel it again.

It has really just opened up my whole world to the mystery of being. I just love hearing how it has affected others lives, and I just sent to your friend Mike. Wish you both well.

My reiki master recently asked me if I wanted to be re-attuned. I had already been thinking about it when she asked me...so of course, I said yes. After reading about your experience, I am really excited about it now.

And thanks for helping my friend Mike.

Originally posted by Dock9
reply to post by zippy1958

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And thank YOU, too

Didn't realise reiki could help physical ailments

I have arthritis-type problems too. Happened in the last ten years, even though no-one else in my family have ever suffered from it. I've wondered if it has anything to do with the very heavy Chemtrailing in our area, because I've only had the problem since moving here
Anyway, thanks again for mentioning arthritis. Just another very good reason to try to find an experienced reiki practitioner

You are very welcome. Reiki always goes where it is needed. It will help with problems that you don't even know you have. You will notice improvement with every area of your life.

Don't know if chemtrailing has anything to do with it. My arthritis is from old injuries. I have not taken care of my body over the years and pushed too hard physically. I could not raise my arm or move my shoulder even an inch when it was at it's worse. Now....well, I can raise my arm straight up with very little or no pain. This has been going on for several months...and this is usually the time of year when it is at it's worse.

Best wishes...I am sure that reiki will help you.



[edit on 19-2-2010 by zippy1958]

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