Navy Sending 7 Carrier Strike Groups to sea; Destination Unknown

It could be also true that we are just getting ready for another war, maybe Iran, or Syria, or some otehr country.

You have to remember that normally the public knows the reasons why we deploy to certain places at the same time as the rest of the world.

Normally people in the military know before the general public if we are going to war. This is done also so that the enemy is caught by surprise.

But who knows, it could be anything.

BeingWatchedByThem,
You make a good point but I feel it won't be Jordan.
I'm providing a link to some articles that address/mention a thwarted major possible chemical attack in Jordan that mentions that the material came out of Syria.
Iraq Unloading WMD Into Syria.

For this reason alone, I do not believe that Jordan is on the list of possible nation's under consideration for attack or 'leader removal services'.


seekerof

This is a war on terror and terrorist sponsored countries....Bush never said it would end in Iraq, whoever though it would was kidding themselves.

So far, on this site (and at other places) I've seen the reason for this as being:


1-The gov knows that terrorists want to attack a ship at port (I actually believe this one).
2-The US will be launching a war in a month or so (a seven carrier group force is pretty damn huge, by this standard.)
3-The Us has learned that Iranian subs have been deployed with nuke-tipped missiles (and needs to find it before the G-8 conference).
4-This IS JUST a huge training exercise.
5-An asteroid is about to hit that will trash everything along the coasts
6-Aliens are about to land.


I have to say that EVERY one of these theories fits for almost every conspiracy topic we discuss. Think about it... I don't mean to be critical ( I REALLY do believe that something is up)... but the 'terrorist-war-secret mission-asteroid-alien' explanation is applied, to varying degrees, to every thread on this board. So, I have to ask, are these ideas things we actually believe in due to data we have been presented with.... or are they solutions we automatically assign to any and every weird thing we see? Do the observations support these ideas... or are they just things we push forward as a kneejerk reaction?

[Edited on 30-5-2004 by onlyinmydreams]

Im guessing the government is going to stage another terrorist attack soon.

And they will have that fleet in position to retaliate on the countries that are blamed for the attacks.

At least that's my current theory. But that could change.

The US staging an attack... so you think the rest of the world loves the US and no one wants to "attack us" for any reason at all...... Or that the US has staged every terrorist attack that have been happening all over the world....

I can't follow your logic, there have been conflicts like this one for millenium.

Could it also be that the government doesn't want any of those ships to be attacked while being close to the US and causing some larger catastrophe if an attack was carried?

Also you have to note that a moving ship is a lot harder to be tracked and attacked.

How many "Troyan horses", infiltrated enemies, have been used in past conflicts and even thou the people knew in the past this happened there was not much that could be done to prevent "another Troyan horse." Nowadays these "Troyan horses" are also known as sleeper cells.

Remember that about a month ago or so there was an statement from terrorists that they would attack a US carrier and would cause thousands of deaths.

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Originally posted by Muaddib
The US staging an attack... so you think the rest of the world loves the US and no one wants to "attack us" for any reason at all...... Or that the US has staged every terrorist attack that have been happening all over the world....

There you go putting words into my mouth. Did I say that? I know the rest of the world hates the US and would rather see all americans wiped from the face of the planet. But I have seen enough evidence to convince me that 9/11 was a staged terror event. The government knew every single detail of what was to happen that day. If you believe different then that�s ok too. I would like to point you to research Operation Northwoods. A top secret project in which military wanted to create terror attacks in the United States and blame it on Cuba so that americans would support an invasion. So it�s not like there isn�t a precedent for this sort of thing. How about all the questions still surrounding the OKC Bombing? The Invasion of Pearl Harbor? The assassinations of Martin Luther King? JFK? RFK? WACO? Ruby Ridge?

Still think you're government isn't willing to sacrifice innocent american lives to get what it wants?


[Edited on 30-5-2004 by Ocelot]

Did you say " I believe the government to be staging an attack" or something similar? Yes, you said it, but you edited that part now. (My bad, you did not edited that part)

Well, do you know that Russia and China also have operations, which some defectors say are still ongoing, to use terrorism to attack and weaken the US and they plan on attacking the US in the not so distant future?

WACO happened under Clinton and Reno, and who was in power when the OKC tragedy happened? And how exactly do you involve the government in this attack?

How about your freedoms?, under Clinton-Reno people's rights were severely attacked.

How about the Cuban kid, Elian Gonzalez, which was in the house of some relatives in the US and Reno sent the cops to take him from them at gun point, because she wanted to return the kid to the communist father and the dictator Castro, while his mother died trying to bring him to the US..

How about Clinton selling the US, and many of our secrets, to the Chinese and Russian government, communist/socialistic regimes, Severely cutting our defenses, military budget, and future economy while both communist regimes kept upgrading their defenses, raising their military budgets and at least one of them saying that a "war with the US is inevitable and its best to bring that war to the US..."

I would be willing to bet anything that if anyone is out to sell the US government to terrorism and or the communistic/socialistic regimes is the "neo-commies" also known as democrats and the unknowing participants the liberals.



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Personally I think they are going to hang around Iran, as a potential reprisal threat in case some terrorist action happens.

What is suprising in this age of satalittes, etc is that 7 huge ships can just "disappear".

So no one notices them go past? Through shipping lanes that are full of ships, with excellent radar? etc etc

They can't be followed by a small ships with media on board?

Can ANYTHING that big just get lost now days?

seven carrier battle groups equate to tens of thousands of men....


before we go into politics, here, I'd like to point out that only an extremely pressing and recently discovered development could have caused something like this. Simnply put, if this was something the navy could have planned for (a rigged terrorist attack, for example) they could have made sure that the rotation of battle groups covered what's gone on without raising a stir. Really... if this was planned months in advance by some secret cabal in the government the fleet movements could have been ordered in a non-alarming way.

The fact that these ships are suddenly being 'scrambled' implies that something has recently come up.

No they dont get lost. THey just dont tell anyone where tey are going. I'm sure other countries militaries are trying to keep track of them, and i'm sure some are actually doing it.

But we dont know what those military countries know.

It would be good to find out though.

If the US has just sent off 7 carrier strike groups....and not told anyone where they are going, or what is up....something big is under-way.

Half the US military carrier strike groups gone out to see telling noone what's going on or where they are going......something is definately up.

Well said onlyinmydreams, I believe your assertion is probably close to the truth .

BTW Ocelot, please post this reliable info which you say the government knew we were going to be attacked on 9/11, in that day, and by those airliners, or was it more like a rumor, like the present rumors that there will possibly be an attack...

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Originally posted by Muaddib
BTW Ocelot, please post this reliable info which you say the government knew we were going to be attacked on 9/11, in that day, and by those airliners, or was it more like a rumor, like the present rumors that there will possibly be an attack...

It's no rummor. Do your own research. I could post a thousand links here to all kinds of info. In the end it will prove to be a waste of my time since you'll probably look for any excuse to dismiss it as anti Bush propaganda. I've posted links to many of the suff I've talked about on many other threads. Do a search.

Oh and BTW. No need to remind me how much of a piece of # and corrupt the Clinton administration was. They were just as bad as the current administration in my opinion.

Its 5 am. Im tired. And I can barely keep my eyes open. I'll check back on this thread later.