Cliffnotes to his manifesto:

1) Guy doesn't like to pay taxes.
2) Guy spends 30yrs of his life to come up with a way of evading taxes.
3) Guy fails at evading taxes.
4) Guy freaks out and flies plane into building risking innocent lives in the process.

This guy was a total lunatic, and we can be lucky he killed himself without harming anyone seriously. Can't believe some people consider him a patriot...he's nothing but a crazy loon.

And you keep counting your shells and soup cans WW.

Earn little or no income 'on the books' and you won't have to pay any 'income tax'...that simple.


You want to get violent and start shooting or killing other human beings over it...then we ought to lock you up before you do something totally idiotic.

Any one noticed that he crashed his "personal private plane" into that building??
I'm as middle america as you can get, but i couldn't even afford to crash my 10 year old car into anything.

I'm not saying he had no reason to, but please, if your that hard up, and have been screwed by the government, not once, but TWICE, how the *** can you afford a private plane?

It's obvious just by viewing this thread that the situation is civil war eventually, not now, not later, probably much later.


Alot of people here condoning violence or atleast siding with it in one fashion or another. Even i am taking the stance i will stand armed against any terrorist that tries to get all IRA on my America.

Everything seems just so... wrong, everything feels like we are being guided toward this, through government # ups, through tea party movements.


we are sliding toward a country that is not America, well we obviously have not been America for a long time. But what im talking about is we where a content nation, now we are being lead through the barn by the reigns it seems and being poked and prodded into stirring.


They have the power, it isnt slipping through their hands? They are in complete control.

My question is, why are we being poked and prodded into this frenzy from within.

My theory/answer to this is that a foreign intelligence agency is working us from the inside out, weakening our content for the status quo.

They couldn't hit us with there own planes and bombs because we have to good of security network.... just breed homegrown domestic terrorism.

Now is not to take sides, its time to stand together. you nor i are privy to what the elite know, for all we know they are working for us in the very least to keep us content. I know i am, i have a 52 inch lcd and a nice car and i enjoy my life.

Why can't you guys? a good life in America is still to be had, just don't reach for something you cant. There are slots, you are born into, No matter what slot you are born into rich, middle class, middle middle class, lower middle lower class, lower middle middle class, and poverty.... you all have a chance at a big screen and atleast a #y car. You arnt saving and living right if you arnt. Plain and simple.

Take you're place in todays america and make the best of it, and take responsibility for you're actions. The people who are so unhappy are probably in debt, why are you in debt? being irresponsible.

To those that say he was 'evading taxes' - that's not what I got - he was studying tax law to find ways that he could live as inexpensively as possible. To put his money to better use.

He played by their rules - whether he agreed with them, or not (crappy and unconstitutional more importantly to start with), and won (i.e. saved money and invested it elsewhere)

They came back and said 'screw you, we want more.' And, they found a way to do it. Is this so hard to believe? They do it to ALL of us.

Regardless of whether I interpreted that correctly or not, is immateial...

WHY do you think, when someone wins the lottery, or is awarded a large financial winfall, that the very first advice given to them is to "Get yourself Incorporated: it's better on you for protection in regards to liability, taxes, and keeping as much of the original gain as possible."

Why? Because our tax laws are set up to protect Corporations* and not the individual citizen! Do you NOT see anything wrong with that?!




*And, which corporations are benefitting the most of all?! Big Pharma, Big Oil, Big Banking, etc... is this starting to sink in? Remember the book/movie Clear and Present Danger (great movie) - THAT's THE TYPE OF SENSELESS SH|T YOUR HARD EARNED TAX DOLLARS ARE BEING SPENT ON - not better infrastructure, schools, hopsitals, and so on!

Wake the Mother Fvck UP! God DAMN!





[edit on 2/20/2010 by SquirrelNutz]

Originally posted by Erasurehead
Anyone that thinks violence is the answer is delusional. Violence is the last thing you want to think about when going up against the most powerful people on the planet. They will destoy you. You simply can't match them with force.

Any violence against the government would be quickly squashed and the vast majority of the people would support the government crackdown. The government owns the media and they would make any one that is against them look like a bunch of crazy extremists. You can't win that way.

I don't see this as an act of violence at all. The fact that only 2 people died clearly tells me, he knew what he was doing as far as sparing innocent lives and getting his message heard too.

This was a bold statement. He didn't go on a rampage and start shooting people like others have. Those types of acts are violent. Not this.

Screw the IRS and all that it stands for. It's an illegal system that many aren't even aware of or.......those who are aware, are afraid to challenge.

Again.......{{{BRAVO}}} to this true patriot. He did something and did it big!!!!
I think so many feel what he felt. Total discouragement. Total despair. Total hopelessness.
The future here in the good US of A doesn't look bright at all and something radical needs to happen and.....................fast!!!!

Originally posted by whitewave
Obviously you don't mind breaking the law since collecting cash under the table without paying taxes on it is against the law and a jailable offense; you just don't advocate breaking any laws that would make you unpopular with the rest of the Kool-Aid line.



[edit on 20-2-2010 by whitewave]

Where and when did we agree on 'lending' the feds our money? I personally never agreed to this.
What we're really doing is abetting the criminal.

I am all for taxes overall and you know why? Because I personally benefit from it. I get roads, parks, hospitals, schools, police, electricity on my streets etc.

Paying FEDERAL INCOME TAX benefits me......nil! None! NOTHING.
Why should I break a sweat by mopping up someones kitchen floor and give a percentage of my sweat to the Feds? What do I gain by doing that? Nothing!
It's ridiculous.
And people have the misconception that this goes towards SS and unemployment etc. It doesn't! Those are separate taxes which I don't really mind.

It's the federal income tax that's the problem. It started out (was it 1914?) as something people volunteered, like tithing's.
Somehow, somewhere along the way, it became mandatory and it's BS!
Don't sign a 1040 form because when you do, at that point, you're agreeing to have them, take your money!

The man was a coward who failed his wife and daughter. I don't care what you people say, what conspiracies you come up with, what you claim justifies his actions, nothing. He failed as a husband and father.

Please everyone pay attention. This is another set up I do not believe for one second that this man did this for the reasons supposed. If he even flew it at all. You remember WTC 7 fell and what was housed inside. The same offices. This is all a set up to make make the people waking up look like terrorists. The teabagging thing in the media didn't work. Everyone was also talking of a coming terror attack in Canada. Maybe this is the hit that was coming. Shenanigans I CALL SHENANIGANS.

Originally posted by brainwrek

Originally posted by l neXus l
there are very few people who actually control what goes on, everyone else is there for a job

[edit on 2/18/2010 by l neXus l]

Yea, I think the former members of the SS tried to use the "I was just doing my job" excuse too.

Didnt really work out too well for them. Nor should it for agents of the United States Government.

They were combatives at a time of war, not civilians in a time of peace. Completely different situation. This is stupid to think that we are all going to crash our private planes in to the friggin city hall because the garbage man missed my garbage. He thinks he's being abused by the government? Look at the minorities in this country and give it a second thought. God people are stupid.

Originally posted by TwoPhish

Originally posted by Erasurehead
Anyone that thinks violence is the answer is delusional. Violence is the last thing you want to think about when going up against the most powerful people on the planet. They will destoy you. You simply can't match them with force.

Any violence against the government would be quickly squashed and the vast majority of the people would support the government crackdown. The government owns the media and they would make any one that is against them look like a bunch of crazy extremists. You can't win that way.

I don't see this as an act of violence at all. The fact that only 2 people died clearly tells me, he knew what he was doing as far as sparing innocent lives and getting his message heard too.

This was a bold statement. He didn't go on a rampage and start shooting people like others have. Those types of acts are violent. Not this.

Screw the IRS and all that it stands for. It's an illegal system that many aren't even aware of or.......those who are aware, are afraid to challenge.

Again.......{{{BRAVO}}} to this true patriot. He did something and did it big!!!!
I think so many feel what he felt. Total discouragement. Total despair. Total hopelessness.
The future here in the good US of A doesn't look bright at all and something radical needs to happen and.....................fast!!!!

He had the potential to harm more, and the fact that he damaged a office building and caused thousands of $ in damage, and another life rather than just his dumb ass life is saying something. He's not a patriot he's a murderer. Obviously he's never lived on the other side of the grass. (We'll just say the "browner" side of the grass.)

Originally posted by FantasmaTaans

Originally posted by brainwrek

Originally posted by l neXus l
there are very few people who actually control what goes on, everyone else is there for a job

[edit on 2/18/2010 by l neXus l]

Yea, I think the former members of the SS tried to use the "I was just doing my job" excuse too.

Didnt really work out too well for them. Nor should it for agents of the United States Government.

They were combatives at a time of war, not civilians in a time of peace. Completely different situation. This is stupid to think that we are all going to crash our private planes in to the friggin city hall because the garbage man missed my garbage. He thinks he's being abused by the government? Look at the minorities in this country and give it a second thought. God people are stupid.

YOU say it's a time of peace. It's not. We are effectively already in a 'Revolutionary "cold war" of sorts, as Americans begin to wake up and see what's going on.

Look, I'll be the first to admit that Alex Jones is a blowhard and sensationalist, but that does not mean he's wrong. Try watching the Obama Deception & Fall of the Republic to get an idea of exactly what is happening in this country.

Originally posted by EMPIRE
The man was a coward who failed his wife and daughter. I don't care what you people say, what conspiracies you come up with, what you claim justifies his actions, nothing. He failed as a husband and father.

I agree. He failed as a human being he couldn't handle his trials and tribulations in this world. When the going got tough Joe Stack ended his life. He thought of nobody but himself. There are some people in this world worst off then him.

[edit on 2/23/2010 by Katie]