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I'm pretty sure I'm not alone when I say that the leaders aren't doing what the people want. And I am pretty sure that under our base laws of the land - we are given the RIGHT and RESPONSIBILITY to overthrow leaders that do not listen to us.
Please, inform me what rights I am trumping on? Hm? I'd like you to list a single right that a revolution is trumping on.
I don't think you can.
You are the one who has lost touch with reality and thus you have lost touch with yourself.
You have placed words in my mouth for the last time, as I had warned you about previously. Good day sir, and I wish you luck on your "peaceful change". You have been ignored.
Originally posted by whatukno
reply to post by gwydionblack
Here is what I get, you want them to do things your way! If they don't do things YOUR way then you feel you have the right to overthrow that system despite the feelings of anyone else.
But they aren't doing what YOU want them to do. So YOU think YOU have the right to overthrow it.
But instead you want to march to Washington, and push and push and push till they go to arrest you, for what? So you can be a martyr? For what cause? Because you are selfish and lazy and irresponsible?
YOU aren't the only one in this country.
What you fail to understand is that you have absolutely no right to trump the rights of every other American in this country just because YOU feel that it's not working the way YOU want it to work.
They have this myopic 1950's view of America they wish they could return us all to. Back in those blessed days of segregation, & accepted spousal abuse.
Hell if you talk to some of them you will find out that they want the removal of the 13th Amendment.
"If any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive, or retain, any title of nobility or honor, or shall, without the consent of Congress, accept and retain any present, pension, office or emolument of any kind whatever, from any emperor, king, prince, or foreign power, such person shall cease to be a citizen of the United States, and shall be incapable of holding any office of trust or profit under them, or either of them."
Nothing more than southern secessionists. Xenophobic adolescents with no grasp on reality.
I ask you to turn your attention here. I'm sure you will have SOMETHING bad to say about this as well but this is my gift to all of those who with to "peacefully" change things. Let's see if you shall put up or shut up.
You couldn't show one person on ATS that has called for segregation or accepted spousal abuse.
Or you let you pervasiveness control you once again. Perhaps you are confused with the fact that us revolutionaries want to include the ORIGINAL 13th amendment to the Constitution IN ADDITION to the current one. The original 13th amendment being:
I read that thread. But it's basically the same damn topic as this one, and the other dozen or so threads right now on revolution. So I won't bother to reply to it.
No I couldn't and I didn't say that did I? I said "Back in those blessed days of segregation, & accepted spousal abuse." I was referring to how America was back in the 1950s. But you didn't understand that did you?
Yes I know what the "original" 13th amendment supposedly said. It also shows how your revolution has no problems just ripping out parts of the Constitution you don't like and putting in things you want without even regarding the states rights on the issue. But you don't really care about state rights do you?
Because part and parcel of your revolution is to bring back slavery.
Cause to you, anyone that has Esq. at the end of their name wouldn't have any rights under the constitution. and because you wouldn't be able to deport them, you would just enslave them. Just like you would anyone that you felt was your enemy.
I see through this revolution of yours. I see where it is heading. It's just oppression but your way.
So I suggest an idea on peaceful change... and you choose to ignore it.
Originally posted by CarloZ
This guy is a hero not only to myself but to those voices that have been silenced by our oppressive government. RIP JOE STACK, A TRUE PATRIOT. Any of you that don't like it, be warned, your time is coming soon.
The march is to prove to all who feel that the government still has the will to listen to us - whether or not they have merit or not. You speak of reality but I'm willing to be that come November 3rd, reality will be setting in quite harsh for you and your act of "changing things" from the inside.