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LAX, the largest airport for hundreds of miles around, would the THE LAST choice on my list of potential landing sites.
Originally posted by Perseus Apex
reply to post by pyrael
If we have any geeks with more experience in tracing etc, your info would probably help alot.
Whether one's a geek or not, they could always forward information like ^that^ to Judicial Watch for I'm sure they'd appreciate it.
If it really concerns another, as it should, one could always hire a computer forensics specialist to take a 'closer' look though each has there own specialties. It's a good idea to interview first.
If your concerned about your own system, it can help to become familiar with Start>Control Panel>Adminstrative Tools>Event Viewer. Copy it once a month, (electronic draft and printed back-up), just in case.
My system is a 'hotel' for trojans, viruses, worms, spyware. As they feed, I like to take notes and assume we as One. Keeps it interesting for 'all' concerned.
[edit on 20-2-2010 by Perseus Apex]
Sheryl Stack, 50, listed in records at the University of Texas as a graduate student in music performance, brought her own strange back story to the marriage, having spent several years in the sway of a religious cult before her parents orchestrated a rescue.
Kidnap or not? Anti-cult `rescuer' goes on trial
Published on October 16, 1988
The operation went down on the street near Moonie headquarters in Denver when half a dozen men grabbed the 29-year-old Swedish woman, forced her into the back of their van and drove off.
What was going on here? Was this a kidnapping or a rescue?
The question comes up Monday in Denver District Court in a case that revolves around how far families can go to try to reach grown children they feel have fallen under the influence of a cult.
Omaha private investigator
The daughter of Joseph Stack, Samantha Dawn Bell, called her father a very loving and caring man.
"I'm in shock right now. I'm having a nightmare. It's overwhelming," she said. "I don't understand, and I keep asking why, because he loved us and he had a wonderful life, and he had so many friends and family."
Bell spoke to News 8 over the phone from her home in Oslo, Norway, where she has lived for the past 14 years. She is his daughter from his first marriage.
Samantha Dawn Bell JOE STACK IS/WAS MY FATHER AND I'M NOT ASHAMED OF IT! I'M DEEPLY SORRY FOR THE ONE'S WHO HAD DIED AND THEIR FAMILIES. HE WAS A WONDERFUL FATHER AND GRANDFATHER.....12 hours ago
Butler School of Music Final best part of our day: UT chapter of Sigma Alpha Iota will accept donations in support of Sheryl Stack and her daughter. Complete information on our website, www.music.utexas.edu... School of Music | Welcome to the Sarah and Ernest Butler School of Music
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Butler School Chapter of Sigma Alpha Iota to accept donations on behalf of Sheryl Stack Family
The Butler School of Music at The University of Texas at Austin has arranged with one of its student organizations, Sigma Alpha Iota, to accept donations on behalf of Sheryl Stack and her daughter. Sheryl Stack, wife of Joseph Stack, is a graduate student at the Butler School of Music. Those wishing to support Sheryl Stack and her family at this time may send donations to
The University of Texas at Austin
Butler School of Music
ATTN SAI Stack Fund
1 University Station, E3100
Austin TX, 78712.
“I am moved by the expressions of concern and the desire on the part of so many to assist,” said B. Glenn Chandler, Director of the Butler School of Music. I want to express appreciation for our community’s display of concern for humanity in times of crisis.”
Sigma Alpha Iota is an international music fraternity with a mission to encourage, nurture and support the art of music. The UT Beta Sigma chapter has a history of community service including their recent efforts to support relief efforts in Haiti through the American Red Cross.
A law enforcement official familiar with the investigation in Austin told CNN that several seats were missing from Joseph Stack's Piper Cherokee PA-28 and a fuel drum was also missing at the airport from which he took off Thursday.
"I think there is a good chance he might have put it on his plane," the official said.
Originally posted by JBA2848
several seats were missing from Joseph Stack's Piper Cherokee PA-28 and a fuel drum was also missing at the airport from which he took off Thursday.
Originally posted by phyla2012
Originally posted by patmac
A quick search of Stack led to something interesting. The first two results were news articles about today's event. The 3rd was this:
His flight registration information came up.
Well, isn't that convenient google. Did your algorithms pick this out? Something is not right about any of this.
N2889D JOSEPH A STACK
Individual * PIPER PA-28-236
[edit on 18-2-2010 by patmac]
But he crashed a Cirrus SR22, not the Piper. The police chief said he did not "steal" the plane. What gives?
Originally posted by Capt. Charisma
Originally posted by Nola213
Well MSNBC just read a few bits of the "Manifesto".
What was with the one "expert" on MSNBC saying we don't need to tighten airport security, because this same thing could be done to a building with a car or a bus or a truck and he's talking with no explosives involved...
Yea , sure try and take your Ford Taurus and crash it into a 7 story building, and see if you get this type of damage
Where do they find these morons??
Does he not realize a plane(even a small one) filled with jet fuel is basically a missile? That's a little different than a car or truck or bus. Without being rigged with explosives is barely gonna get through the lobby.
[edit on 18-2-2010 by Capt. Charisma]
The suicide airplane, if filled with jet fuel,becomes a missile that never reaches the target. Put jet fuel in a Cherokee, it might, because of residual fuel in the carb and the fuel lines, barely get off the ground. The Lycoming engine won't run on jet fuel. Which may be worse since aviation gasoline burns hotter in open air and autoignites at a lower temperature than jet A fuel, ergo, more damage from avgas than jet A.
Originally posted by freetree64
reply to post by havok
Here, here.... but I expect it will posted at least 20 more time's regardless, in the meantime.... Can the IRS sue the plane's manufacture? Sorry, couldn't resist...
[edit on 18-2-2010 by freetree64]
Originally posted by inbound
Originally posted by 4nsicphd
Originally posted by inbound
reply to post by havok
well sure, but are they registered and titled to them? I own a boat, no license required. I own a car- registered and titled to me. license required- not sure how you would tag and insure it without one. The plane is registered to him. I know nothing about pilot's licenses, but I would imagine if you owned one(in your name) and stored it in an airport, somewhere along the way you would need a license. Also I would imagine the company insuring it would want a copy.
No license needed to own one or hangar one at the airport. Insurance is not required for non-commercial operations. And you can get insurance with an "open pilot" endorsement which doesn't name a particular pilot but sets minimum certification and experience requiresments.
Yeh I have been told (by a pilot) that the open pilot endorsement is mostly for people who buy a plane and intend to use it to get their license to avoid the high cost of renting another plane to learn to fly-- insurance costs on the open pilot license is astronomical- so Ive been told. Insurance would be required if you were financing to own the aircraft, thats what I meant, kinda like a new car carrying full coverage. That is assuming he was financing the plane, dont know if he owned it outright.