Teenager, 15, who posted video of Ku Klux Klan hanging black man online becomes youngest to be charg, page 1
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Topic started on 18-2-2010 @ 10:29 AM by tristar

Teenager, 15, who posted video of Ku Klux Klan hanging black man online becomes youngest to be charged with inciting racial hate


www.dailymail.co.uk

A 'reclusive' teenager has become the youngest person prosecuted for inciting racial hatred by posting a video of the Ku Klux Klan hanging a black man online, a court heard.

The youngster, who 'lived in his bedroom' and cannot be named for legal reasons, set up an internet site on which he 'demonstrated how to stab a n*****'.
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reply posted on 18-2-2010 @ 10:49 AM by Violater1
reply to post by tristar



I do not endorse hatred. Period. Nor can I embrace any contribution toward it.
Where are is parents?
Personally, I think he should be punished by bagging groceries or sweeping the streets and sidewalks of the Ghetto for a week.


reply posted on 18-2-2010 @ 11:11 AM by tristar
reply to post by ufopunx



The point being made here is that he had/has his opinion about a particular skin/race.

The process taken for his conviction can be used against any single member when similar links/re-posts are made on public accessed forums. By linking in public access videos into any forum/site by any individual that depict violence or racial aggression can be used in a court of law. As i posted earlier, there are hundreds and thousands of sites with similar content that over shadow this alleged person's actions yet we see that for some reason he was targeted for no apparent reason, other than posting a racial video, who i believe and already obvious to those who know me is simply stupid and idiotic.

So i guess, videos that show police brutality and then call for the public to "take up arms" are actively breaking the law, since they too are enforcing an act of violence against a selective group of people simply by the color of their uniform and the authority they posses.

There are simply way too many convictions across the world were bloggers have been fined or worse simply by voicing their opinion through an online medium.


reply posted on 18-2-2010 @ 11:46 AM by ufopunx
reply to post by tristar




To post a video showing a man being hanged because of his skin colour and telling people to do it is more than an opinion, it's giving an order to act, and it is different to post this video to show how stupid supremacist are, it is not because he post this video, it is why he did it, and the why here is attacking people because they have different skin colour, THAT is the problem not the posting in itself.

Police brutality is what it is, brutality, and when you get assault by the ones who are supposed to help you, you can't say, hey respect those guys they are just doing their job.
For most of those videos, they criticize the brutality that comes from those guys, you have no right against them but they have all they want against you: rights, laws, weapons, jails, fines, etc... while you are innocent.
That is not because of their uniform that is because of the violence that comes from some police officer and the fact there is nothing we can do against them, you can't deny that there is some crazy maniac in the police as I can't deny there a lot of good cops, while I'm not for killing brutal cops there should be something we can do about that but what?



I really hope you see the difference I'm trying to make
and if my English sounds bad don't worry it's normal, I'm writing from Belgium, fries beer and chocolate anyone?

[edit on 2/18/10 by ufopunx]


reply posted on 18-2-2010 @ 11:57 AM by ufopunx
reply to post by googolplex



Not with with the same title "how to stab a ...".

It is not because he posted this video, as I said upper it is WHY he did it.


admin edit: removed racial epithets.

[edit on 2-18-2010 by Springer]


reply posted on 18-2-2010 @ 12:14 PM by tristar
I do feel its all a matter of perception.

Some may say the Rothchilds are controlling the world,

Some may say the Jews are controlling the world,

Some may say Aliens are controlling the world,


The fact is, its all a matter of perception. Is the glass half full or half empty. Now getting back to topic, as it has been indicated by the "Empire and quoted from the article 'What they are not entitled to do is to publish or distribute those opinions to the public in a threatening, abusive or insulting manner.'.

So that leaves a loop hole, i could very well do and please as i wish as long as its not publicly available. Then again, the definition of public access is not thoroughly explained, therefore i can openly say that ATS, is threatening, abusive and insulting through the use of its public forums on an open attack upon the free democratic nations by insinuating that there is a conspiracy behind everything.

The use of particular words can incite a violent act and by adding a video its more or less exactly what the original poster or creator is intending to do. So in theory, every post thats indicates a conspiracy against for example, the American public with an accompanied link is actually against the law.

You see how complex this fine line between freedom of speech and expression is in comparison to actually saying, go out there and do what must be done for us to survive.

edit: Lets not forget how effective subliminal mass messaging is. Keep in mind the recent wars, we were told that Iraq had WMD's and obviously we are all too familiar with what eventually happened.

[edit on 18-2-2010 by tristar]


reply posted on 18-2-2010 @ 12:24 PM by bsbray11
reply to post by tristar



I understand exactly what you mean by censorship and freedom of speech being on a "hair line tight rope." If this is censored then they will have more precedent for censoring more and more and more, etc.

However due to the extremely racist violence here I'm going to have to look the other way while they prosecute this kid. I hope they hit him with something stiff enough to teach him a very personal lesson. It is NOT OKAY to incite racial hatred and violence. Violence against the government, you know, I have no comment there. But violence against a race, simply for being that race. Come on people. I know this kid was 15 but grow up already.



reply posted on 18-2-2010 @ 12:32 PM by tristar
Originally posted by bsbray11
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post by tristar



But violence against a race, simply for being that race. Come on people. I know this kid was 15 but grow up already.


I do understand your point very clearly and i do support your point 110%, but its pushing these circumstances that will eventually result in what most or several people are clearly systemically seeing. We are headed for a world of trouble and every time an opposing issue is raised then circumstances like this kid's would be slapped across our face's.


reply posted on 18-2-2010 @ 12:59 PM by EMPIRE
reply to post by tristar



'What they are not entitled to do is to publish or distribute those opinions to the public in a threatening, abusive or insulting manner.'

It is implied that the person in question said/typed "how to stab a ...".

There is a difference between saying "how to stab a ...". and posting a clip of a man being lynched and mutilated and saying, “the Jews control the world” and posting a clip about perceived jewish dominance. The first is threatening (how to stab) and abusive and insulting (a ...). The second lacks these elements.


reply posted on 18-2-2010 @ 01:05 PM by tristar
reply to post by EMPIRE



Agreed, whats confusing is that the alleged video shows a man (model) being hang and mutilated and yet that alone should have caused all alarm bells to go on, but yet they chose to stick to the quotes "how to stab a ....." . Im my humble opinion both the video alone and or the typed messaged hold equal weight.

So if this obviously disturbed child hadn't typed that message then i guess he everyone would have been okay with it all ?
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