Scotland's Lord Advocate concealing top-level paedophile ring?

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posted on Feb, 18 2010 @ 06:56 AM
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Originally posted by woodwardjnr

Robert Green, the chap talking on theses videos has just appeared in court on Charges of disturbing the peace. It seems they are out to get him.Police doing a search of the bed and breakfast he was staying in. all very sinister stuff

www.pressandjournal.co.uk...


he was arrested and held for 3 days because he announced his intention to hand out leaflets publicising this story. that's what they call breach of the peace!

the police have raided and stolen items from his b&b room without giving receipts, including his computer.

the hearing was not viewed in public but rather in camera, and he has been gagged from discussing the case. he has to attend the police station 3 times a week.

just for intending to hand out leaflets publicising this.

newspapers in scotland have injunctions against them from mentioning the story but they don't apply to uk and wales (yet). just watch them try and prevent the story getting out there also..... thankfully we have the internet!




posted on Feb, 18 2010 @ 07:00 AM
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Yes, they're trying to silence him. But it's too late, he's already told us what he has to say. Now we've got to spread the news.

It's here, it's on Facebook and it's going to be reported on by Alex J and David I.

That's not enough, I'm going to try get this looked at by the media were I'm from, and I'll see if I can get it known and talked about in other places.

I sincerely hope others reading this thread will also be doing something similar.

My instincts are telling me that this particular case is a weak point... apply enough pressure and it will give.



posted on Feb, 18 2010 @ 07:01 AM
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Originally posted by Totalstranger
this thread is starting to remind me of the satanic ritual abuse nonsense in the 80's. I mean, masonic child molesters who control the country and the law? I dont buy it. and sadly it seems like I'm the only one on here so far who doesnt


read through the links that are being given and you will see that this is far from that type of story. there is systematic lying and covering up of this story but there is also proof that they are lying about it.

anyway, was there a time you wouldn't believe that priests would abuse children because you couldn't imagine all those allegations to be true because people in power (ie priests) would never do such a thing?

read up on the dunblane massacre and see where it ties in to this story also, then come back and say there is nothing sinister going on.



posted on Feb, 18 2010 @ 07:06 AM
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Originally posted by Recouper
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Yes, they're trying to silence him. But it's too late, he's already told us what he has to say. Now we've got to spread the news.

It's here, it's on Facebook and it's going to be reported on by Alex J and David I.

That's not enough, I'm going to try get this looked at by the media were I'm from, and I'll see if I can get it known and talked about in other places.

I sincerely hope others reading this thread will also be doing something similar.

My instincts are telling me that this particular case is a weak point... apply enough pressure and it will give.



I'v never joined a facebook group untill now, hopefully should turn a few more people in this direction. I remember how I felt about the Haut De La Garenne case in Jersey. It made me so mad and to see how these things go right into the heart of the Establishment and are connnected to Masonic groups just sickens me to the core.



posted on Feb, 18 2010 @ 07:36 AM
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The Freemasonic Cancerous Network wont be able to hide their tracks anymore! What fools do they think we are to give COMPLETE sickos like Aliester Crowley & Jaque De Molay the benefit of the doubt?!

Its about time we got some hard concrete evidence!

Now for it to surface to mainstream media & news, however I dont know if this will actually be covered! Does anybody know if there has been already some National Coverage?



posted on Feb, 18 2010 @ 07:45 AM
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Originally posted by justyc

Originally posted by Totalstranger
this thread is starting to remind me of the satanic ritual abuse nonsense in the 80's. I mean, masonic child molesters who control the country and the law? I dont buy it. and sadly it seems like I'm the only one on here so far who doesnt


read through the links that are being given and you will see that this is far from that type of story. there is systematic lying and covering up of this story but there is also proof that they are lying about it.

anyway, was there a time you wouldn't believe that priests would abuse children because you couldn't imagine all those allegations to be true because people in power (ie priests) would never do such a thing?

read up on the dunblane massacre and see where it ties in to this story also, then come back and say there is nothing sinister going on.






Funny you bring that up about the priests, here I am somebody who always thought there was some connection between the Catholic child-molesting prietsts & those pesky Freemasons.

The coincidence is far too high!


People's recovery process deepened, and survivors and their therapists discovered more about imposed and natural dissasociation and repression. Some survivors remembered that Masonic abuse also occurred. As each month goes on, more and more therapists and survivors are reporting this connection. Some remember their fathers taking them to Masonic meetings and rituals occurring on the characteristic black and white checkered floors. Other survivors have done art work describing their abuse, in which Masonic and satanic symbols are interwoven. Some of Ann-Marie Germain's conversations with her father, which support her memories of having been Masonically and satanically abused, were recently published in Margaret Smith's book Ritual Abuse (HarperSanFrancisco, 1993).


www.ritualabusefree.org...



"There exists a shadowy Government with its own Air Force, its own Navy, its own fundraising mechanism, and the ability to pursue its own ideas of national interest, free from all checks and balances, and free from the law itself."-- Senator Daniel K. Inouye, during the Iran Contra Hearings and former chair, U.S. Senate MKULTRA-era hearings in 1977
To understand the New World Order you must see its manifestations in mind-control, satanic ritual abuse, pornography, prostitution, and politics. Most telling is the treatment of children, the use of children for sex, prostitution, pornography, torture, sacrifice and murder. You must examine its base in the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion as the Zionists, the Illuminati and their agents establish the Illuminist agenda in the New World Order.



www.the7thfire.com...




1. Inheritance -- If anyone in your immediate past was involved in witchcraft in any way, and that includes Freemasonry, Mormonism, or any false religion, you need to identify these ancestors and specifically ask the Holy Spirit to close that door and seal it. A common term for this type of doorway is "Generational Witchcraft".


2. Sexual Sins -- Demons are passed from one person to another through sexual sins. These sins fall into eight basic categories.

a) Sex with the opposite sex outside of marriage -- Father Chiniquy's book, "The Priest, the Woman, and the Confessional" reveals that priests have regularly preyed upon women using the Confessional as their primary weapon. This kind of sexual sin has long permeated the Catholic Church.
b) Sex with the same sex -- homosexuality or lesbianism -- This type of sexual activity has been "coming out" in recent years in Western Society, and the societal ramifications are absolutely huge. This is a very important doorway, as it allows Satan to enter with very strong demons into the very inner sanctum of a person's life, afflicting their very inner essence. Sexual deviancy is an extremely important entryway into a person's life, or the life of an institution.

c) Incest -- This sin is getting more prevalent every year. Further, for every reported incident, there are many, many more that never get reported. Within pornography circles, incest is a major category of interest. Of course, this type of sin is not present in the Catholic Church because priests do not marry and they are not having children.

d) Sex with children -- This type sin is a major interest in Gay circles. In fact, gays have an organization called "N.A.M.B.L.A.", which stands for North America Man Boy Love A association. Their major emphasis is to eliminate statutes that outlaw sex with children. However, heterosexual men also are very interested in sex with young children, as this is a major category within pornography.

e) Sex with animals -- Bestiality is one of those hidden little secrets, about which there is no hard data. However, step into a pornography shop and you will see such materials. Since porno shops will not carry material for which there is no demand, we can only assume that significant demand is there.

f) Sex with demons -- This type of sex is usually reserved only for people who have been involved in the occult. Listen again to Dr. Brown: "People in all forms of witchcraft, Satanism, and eastern religions ALL experience sexual intercourse of various sorts with spirits. In Asian countries, this is called 'astral-sex'. How does it occur? The physical partner experiences all the physical sensations of sex although the partner is a spirit and not physical at all ... Many times sexual encounters with demons will be interpreted as being 'dreams', but the person awakes sexually aroused. This can be the cause of frequent 'wet-dreams' in men. The sin of masturbation frequently leads to sex with demons because of the intensive visualization involved." [Ibid., p. 232-234]. Men who regularly participate in pornography and prostitution are also subject to sex with demons.

g) Sadomasochism -- This sin is huge in America today. Once again, you have only to go into a pornography shop to see how many types of such materials are available for sale. In alternative lifestyle magazines, you will discover very large sections devoted to Sadomasochism.

h) Pornography -- In Seminar 1 , we devote a large amount of time to detailing the extent of pornography in this country. Since approximately 1965, pornography has become "mainstreamed", where most people do not even give it a second thought anymore. It is so mainstreamed, you can buy serious heterosexual pornography in convenience and drug stores!

3. Occult Involvement Of Any Kind -- "The occult has a multitude of activities in which people become involved. It would take pages to list them all. Playing with a Ouija Board, reading Tarot Cards, participation in any form of witchcraft, are common areas in this world today in which a person may open a spiritual doorway.



www.cuttingedge.org...



LETS BLOW EM ALL TO PIECES!


[edit on 18-2-2010 by topsecretombomb]



posted on Feb, 18 2010 @ 07:49 AM
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Could I please ask that anyone who would wish to assist in this case to head over to TPUC where a comprehensive list of methods has been organised which you can pick and choose from. All articles are linked, all methods of contact are linked, and all media files for download are linked, and all news as and when it happens is entered there :

tpuc.org...

This family really needs you. Pressure is mounting throgh Levy & McRae law firm who are pulling many avenues of promotion. One of which for instance, the Facebook group, is being pulled.

You WILL make the difference :

Frot line of activism : tpuc.org...
Flyer : www.zshare.net...
Robert Green Talk MP3 : www.megaupload.com... or www.zshare.net...
Interview with Robert Green : blip.tv...
Download full 50 minute video of Greens talk : www....(nolink)/?jzojjiddu2y
Facebook Group : www.facebook.com...
Myspace Group : www.myspace.com...
Download video from Youtube using : keepvid.com...
The flyer that Green was arrested for 1 - img12.imageshack.us...
The flyer that Green was arrested for 2 - img716.imageshack.us...
Stolen Kids - Hollie Blogspot : stolenkids-hollie.blogspot.com...



posted on Feb, 18 2010 @ 08:08 AM
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Fantastic!
I just emailed the main news internet site for my country regarding this. They don't yet have a single mention of this at all. I hope they run with it.

I'll see what else I can do.

I just checked and this is still working:
videos.wittysparks.com...



posted on Feb, 18 2010 @ 08:21 AM
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THANKYOU. the more inet news outlets we can get to publicise this story the better something may get done.

such a pity that wikileaks is down at the moment - they could really help to get this story out and show the gathered proof :/



posted on Feb, 18 2010 @ 08:25 AM
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yes. a great site for information about this case and also a good section on what you can do to help



posted on Feb, 18 2010 @ 08:54 AM
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I strongly suspect that if Elish Angiolini is arrested over this, the flood gates will open. I think she is the key here.
I'm not sure if this link has already been posted, apologies if it has:
Terrified Scottish Establishment DesperateTo Suppress Exposure Of Their Paedophile Ring

Scroll down through the comments to see the updates.


Edit: I just wanted to add a comment by Stretch at the above linked page:
"I can tell you after 20 years of full-time research in now 50 countries that paedophilia and Satanism are the 'cement' that hold the establishment structure together in every country, not least Scotland - and the two are fundamentally connected." - Stretch, forums.canadiancontent.net...

I suspect that paedophilia is mega huge, permeating through the upper echelons of many countries as one massive network and investigating Elish Angiolini will expose more than you or I can possibly imagine.

[edit on 18/2/2010 by Recouper]



posted on Feb, 18 2010 @ 08:59 AM
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yes - here is a good example from the comments section on that site -




Colin McKerracher, the Chief Constable of Grampian Police, the force which failed to investigate Hollie Greig’s abuse, but then arrested Robert Green for trying to do what the police should have done, is Chairman of the North East of Scotland Child Protection Committee??
Why would someone act like this in relation to the Hollie Greig case and Robert Green and be a top name in 'child protection'? Maybe you can work it out. I have.



posted on Feb, 18 2010 @ 09:19 AM
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I've always wondered the same myself, but I don't believe that power corrupts. Maybe these people are somehow not in control of their own thoughts and behaviour and might possibly be victims themselves of brain washing & manipulation. There are plenty of conspiracies that claim this to be the case. Food for thought. Maybe there's something else going on here that your average person isn't aware of. Also women are no different when it comes to child abuse, as there's been plenty of female paedophiles.

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www.section21.m6.net...



posted on Feb, 18 2010 @ 09:49 AM
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Originally posted by winston_boy
For the record, the only journalist trying to uncover the truth, Robert Green, was arrested yesterday and released on bail with a gagging order slapped on him. I know this all sounds very 'conspiratorial' but please check the story out. Evidence suggests it may lead back to the heart of the British government in Westminster and even if this is an over-elaboration, the fact remains that top establishment figures in Scotland have been named in this vile affair but are escaping investigation and thus any chance of prosecution, even though Scotland's police have publicly admitted the Hollie is an honest and reliable witness. Why?


You ask why. Why is there seemingly a conspiratorial effort to protect those in power from prosecution? It largely has to do with splitting the core. The psyche of the young are split so that alters can be created for specific purposes. These alters can be very valuable in getting things accomplished with no evidence pointing back to the original perpetrators.
A lot of times these operatives are killed before the age of 30 because that is when they usually start getting their memories back. This is sometimes referred to as being "thrown from the freedom train".

In these cases I suspect that the majority of alters being created are Betas. Betas are sex slaves and these slaves go on to operationally put specific people in compromising positions to further an agenda. If the subject is found to be more intelligent they may be selected to be Delta (assassin model alter) or if they are intelligent and have a thinly veiled split then they may be selected for leadership. Of course with multiple splits they may have more than one purpose.

More on the subject of splitting the core may be read here.


If I could sum up the total why it would boil down to one word: Control
Those in power often seek more power and will do anything to retain it.





Originally posted by Emerald The Paradigm
The reason they don't want to do an investigation is because the corruption goes all the way to the top.

Don't be surprised if American presidents, politicians, as well as Saudi's and Europeans were all involved.

They think they are above the law, so they just don't do any investigations.

Are you really surprised?

9/11 didn't even get an investigation.


The real reason they don't want to do a proper investigation and follow through has more to do with control and the desire for more power. This is the specific nature of the corruption. As long as these alter personalities are useful we will see more, not less, of this kind of activity.



posted on Feb, 18 2010 @ 09:52 AM
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an old bbc story shows which may be another connection - news.bbc.co.uk...




She was earlier found guilty of grabbing a boy by his genitals and assaulting a girl, after her trial at Aberdeen Sheriff Court.

The mother of the girl said: "She should have been locked up. It feels as though she has got away with it."

Sheriff Graeme Buchanan placed Taylor on the sex offenders' register for five years.

Sheriff Buchanan earlier found her not guilty of eight other charges.


afterwards he had this to say about the abuser......



The tone of the reports suggest she is to be criticised for not accepting responsibility.

"Given her position during the trial it is of no surprise she will not confess to her guilt.

That's the real punishment of the tragedy, that she has got herself into this position at a relatively young age and her teaching career is over
Sheriff Graeme Buchanan



!!!!!!!

NO! - the real tragedy of the punishment is that she WASN'T jailed and had to pay a measly £750 for ruining a child's life by sexually abusing him.

sick! sick! sick!



posted on Feb, 18 2010 @ 09:59 AM
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Wow, very revealing look at the psychology involved.

The sympathy shown towards the offender has a very dodgy feel about it...

Good find.



posted on Feb, 18 2010 @ 10:09 AM
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well well well...

now heres another interesting story involving the sheriff and the sexual abuse of a ten year old in 2001 -

www.telegraph.co.uk...




A 10-YEAR-OLD girl has received a letter of apology from the procurator fiscal's office after the case of a man, who allegedly sexually abused her, collapsed because of the time it took to come to court.

The child, who is receiving counselling, told her parents three years ago that she had been abused by a 19-year-old male relative. But the case only reached Aberdeen Sheriff Court this month and was dismissed by Sheriff Graeme Buchanan because he felt it had not come to trial within a reasonable time.




The girl's family are calling for an inquiry by the Lord Advocate and investigating whether they can bring a private prosecution against the alleged attacker. George Mathers, their solicitor, said: "I believe the person accused had admitted his guilt to officers. It is a very simple and straightforward case, which should have been given priority."





This week it also emerged that a case of a seven-year-old boy who was allegedly raped had collapsed because of delays in bringing it to court in Aberdeen. Elish Angiolini, regional procurator fiscal for Grampian, Highlands and Islands, said that she had instructed Grampian police to treat all child witness cases as custody cases, which have to be processed within 110 days


really? so what happened with hollie's case?



posted on Feb, 18 2010 @ 10:11 AM
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God damn them all, and may whoever kills them in cold blood be given forgiveness...

I cant think beyond rage reading that...

best not get myself into trouble, but jesus christ......



posted on Feb, 18 2010 @ 10:31 AM
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except when your name is hollie greig...




The Lord Advocate, the Right Honourable Elish Angiolini QC said: "Women are often vulnerable to those intent on committing violent and sexual crime, whether in the context of close relationships or at the hands of family members or strangers. The prosecution service in Scotland is absolutely committed to tackling violent crime in all its guises. That is why we have a strong presumption in favour of prosecuting cases of rape and domestic abuse involving violence, whenever there is sufficient evidence in law to permit prosecution. And that is why we recently established a National Sexual Crimes Unit which now leads and directs the investigation and prosecution of all serious sexual crimes in Scotland.

"We want all victims to be confident that their case will be handled professionally and effectively by skilled and experienced prosecutors who are equipped to investigate with rigour and to present compelling cases to juries, when the evidence permits.

"I hope that through the work of all those in the justice system and events such as West Lothian Council's conference today, women will be encourage to break free of the cycle of intimidation and fear that causes so much misery to them and their children."



posted on Feb, 18 2010 @ 10:55 AM
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This is shocking!!

I'm in Scotland and the mainstream media here has been totally silent about this.

That said, i remember a number of occasions where suspicions of this sort of activity have bubbled around before disappearing back under the radar. We need to keep this going and see if some momentum can bring this into the public conciousness rather than only appearing in alternative websites

Star & FLag OP!! Good job





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