Keith Olbermann--What's Everybody's Problem With Him?

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
Now, I'm a bit of a fan boy for MSNBC, really I think they are the more progressive and come as close to the truth, whithout actually telling it, then any of the other MSM's.

It's impossible for a news entertainment organization with ideological agendas to deliver the truth. The truth has no ideology, hence, it's unwanted by all of these seekers of public affection and advertising revenue.

Originally posted by K J Gunderson

Originally posted by tothetenthpower

Originally posted by poedxsoldiervet
reply to post by tothetenthpower

 

You know Olbermann Call the Tea Party people Racist Redneck Teabaggers, He also said the same thing about Senator Brown, From Mass.

I never Heard Beck call Tea Party people un-american that will be intersteing if he did.

I must've missed that show?

That would very much surprise me, but I have heard Beck and Billo call all sorts of americans, "unamerican for not agreeing with the current or last administration.

~Keeper

That is because it did not happen. A guest called a racist a racist. The clip of him saying racist crap was why.

Wrong. (my bolding)

article

You may or may not know it, but if you participated in one of the tea party rallies held nationwide over the last year, you’re a bigot. Why? A black man is president and any criticism of him must be rooted in racism, even though you as lawful protestor might not realize it.

It’s not a new charge, but MSNBC “Countdown” host Keith Olbermann doesn't mind repeating it. He made it the centerpiece of a long-winded attack on the tea party movement during the number one story of his Feb. 15 broadcast. Olbermann took his first shot by using anecdotal evidence – misguided comments from one individual at a single event and applied them to the entire movement.


“[I]t has become fashionable, sometimes psychologically necessary that when some of us express it, we have to put it in code or dress it up or provide a rationalization to ourselves for it,” Olbermann said. “That this has nothing to do with race or prejudice, the man’s a socialist and he’s bent on destroying the country and he was only elected by people who can’t speak English. Or was it he was only elected by guilty whites?”

Although many have articulated why the tea party movement is important and have expressed concerns over the direction the federal government is pushing the country what it means for the futute, Olbermann asserted that since nothing significant has changed in people’s lives to date, the outcry is without merit.

“The rationalizations of the racist are too many and too contradictory for the rest of us to keep them straight,” Olbermann continued. “The whole of the anger at government movement is predicated on this.

reply to post by tothetenthpower


Olbermann may be a fine human being outside a studio. OK feel better?

reply to post by dolphinfan

I think he's a coward and an ass. He injects racism into the equation on a regular basis as if should you not agree with Obama or outright disagree with him that makes you a racist.

not that i'm supporting Olbermann, but what you just said here is a flat out pathetic statement.

Nobody is saying that if you don't agree with Obama, that you're racist (Except you & people like you, making yourselves the victims through propagated and manufactured lies)

What people DO call racist is things like this:




You think it's not bigoted to say that Obama should be feared because he's a MUSLIM? As if there is anything to be shameful of for being a muslim

You think it's not racist to say that they are going to have to change the name to "black house" from white house?

You think it's not racist to call Obama a "Monkey"?


If you really think these things aren't racist, then i believe there are special homes for that can help

If you find them commendable and note worthy, then you are a part of the problem yourself.

And if you respond to this thread and say "oh yeah, well ___________(insert any name here) did _______________(insert any action here)!!!!!!"

Then you are only admitting that i'm right, and you're wrong, and you are trying to compensate for it by resorting to 4th grade playground antics that boil down to the equivilant of


"Jimmy! You have detention for pushing Heather off of the swings!"
"But Heather said your dog was ugly!"

Tit for tat is a childs game. It really is. You might as well whip out the candy land, and cry when your friend from down the street stomps your ass in it.

reply to post by Snarf


You obviously don't watch either Matthews or Olbermann.

Here is a tidbit for you. Here he is claiming that there are about 15 words, including arrogant that if used in the context of describing Obama means you're a racist.

www.youtube.com...


Here's another where he finds 37 instances where he claims folks are racist because they don't care for Obama or refer to him in ways that were they to refer to a white person it would not be an issue:

rawstory.com...

Do you actually watch this guy?

He's a flame throwing coward who can't accept that his liberal icon is performing like a Chicago ward politician while in the White House

reply to post by dolphinfan


from your article

Some of Olbermann’s examples seem fairly indisputable, like a poster used at tea party demonstrations that depicts Obama as an Africa witch doctor, or Limbaugh’s claim that Obama has made it okay for black kids to beat up a white kid on a school bus.

So...all 37 of his examples have to be indisputable for his statement to be true?

Does it take 37 acts of stupidity to qualify someone to be deemed a racist moron?

Again - please for the love of God, don't mistake me for an Olbermann viewer...but in the name of all that is intelligent...think about this for ONE second


Make a million people laugh, but call 1 black guy the N-word, and the world will remember you for a racist butt hole, and not a funny comedian



but forgive me if i am wrong about this - it just seems as though you're avoiding the bigger picture here:

Go back and look at my video, go re-read those examples in the article that you posted....are you telling me that an overwhelming majority of these aren't proving blatant acts of stupid, unadulterated, feverish racism?

You're telling me that you don't think putting a black mans face on a food stamp with pictures of water melon, friend chicken, and kool-aid is RACIST!?




[edit on 17-2-2010 by Snarf]

reply to post by tothetenthpower


Hi tothetenthpower, You should check out John Stewart parodying Olberman. It was on The Daily Show I believe in the last couple of weeks. It was great. John was kinda putting Keith in his place after he went on a tirade about someone. It was priceless. Keith even showed it on his show. It really kind of made Keith look extreme even for him. I like Keith but he can be over the top at times. But kudos to Keith cause at the end of the clip he agreed with John and made amends.

reply to post by K J Gunderson


EPIC FAIL... The day he Senator Brown Won Election he went off in a tired a called the Senator those names... And he said I I am wrong prove it to me...

What some of you fail to see is there is a Reason MSNBC and Olbermanns Show has low ratings... and Glenn Beck and Fox news of Excellent ratings.

I have seen a few lies pointed out here on Olbermann. Yet, at the end of it all, they have either been completely shrugged off (there was a poster who put up video links....did anyone watch those?), or been spun into not being a "lie" as opposed to something different.

It is an ideological statement.

Whether he lies or not is of little issue. I think that, unless you are lying to yourself, you can admit that "spin" is lie. If it isn't, then it would be called "truth" and people would respect it.

But people don't respect spin. We are not stupid, and we are tired of being treated as if we are stupid.

Olbermann is a master of spin. He is a master at excerpting clips without context and then ranting for several minutes about it. He is good at making this face that, if i encountered it as a child would have been punched.

This boils down, like Centurian says, to how bad of a person ihe is. He is such a bad person, based on his behavior of spewing hate and "twisting the knife" that i want nothing to do with him. What he says is irrelevant. To be honest, it makes me more inclined to want to believe the opposite of his opinions, as surely such a vile person could not be on the right track, right?

What all these people need to do is take a lesson from Krauthammer. No insults, never has had to issue a retraction. Purely intelligent, logical speak. Do I always agree? No, but i am often wrong if i don't. Leave the sensationalism to tools like Olbermann and Beck.

reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan


So, Olbermann is a spin doctor (i agree!) but that makes anything he says a flat out lie?



Alrighty then, you just completely contradicted yourself. You oppose anything Olbermann says because of who he is...regardless if there's truth to it or not.

You two are like ideological twins....but your politics are just a little bit different.

[edit on 18-2-2010 by Snarf]

The problem people have with Olbermann and many other far left liberals is that they refuse to listen to anyone that disagrees with them. If you don't think like them then you must be an idiot. I can't stand people like that.

Originally posted by Snarf
reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan

 

So, Olbermann is a spin doctor (i agree!) but that makes anything he says a flat out lie?

Alrighty then, you just completely contradicted yourself. You oppose anything Olbermann says because of who he is...regardless if there's truth to it or not.

You two are like ideological twins....but your politics are just a little bit different.

[edit on 18-2-2010 by Snarf]

Let me restate to allow for potential mismanagement of comprehension:

Spin IS lie. If it weren't lie, then there would be no need to "spin".

In short, there is the truth. Some people don't like the truth, or believe that the truth will be "misconstrued" by those ignorant masses who are not as enlightened as them. These knuckledraggers have to have things clarified via the "spin".

Then, those who do not agree with the spin our shouted down and called names.

This is as close to lying as you can get.

I find it hard to see how you can determine that he and i are ideological twins. I didn't go into my politics. And i give no free passes. Like I said, Beck AND Olbermann are ridiculous.

Of course, this may just be an opportunity to highlight your use of Olbermann tactics? I would rather assume positive intent....but you seem to be awfully combative over something very small. I don't oppose everything he says because of how he is. I just tune him out. I do not give such histrionics the time of day in my life. In my personal life, this means that i do not tolerate drama, either in my children or employees. They are free to their drama, but it needs to be out of my sight.

And i certainly do not want to accept input from someone who would spend an hour a night insulting people he doesn't agree with.

Originally posted by dolphinfan

You obviously don't watch either Matthews or Olbermann.

Here is a tidbit for you. Here he is claiming that there are about 15 words, including arrogant that if used in the context of describing Obama means you're a racist.

In most instances I've heard the criticism of "arrogant" directed at the President, it did strike me as having a racist undertone. How the hell can a president even be arrogant ? Is it not arguably the highest elected office in the world ? It's more of an effort to attack his obvious intellectual gifts over Bush. Forget his politics, I have noticed an effort to undermine Obama's credibility from the beginning. He's not a legitimate president etc.. I think you'll find the highest rate of racism among the birther segment. Demographically, the population most likely to believe Obama was not born in the US (Hawaii), is heavily concentrated in the south. Last scientific poll I read had it has high as 30-40% of the population in the deep south. Coincidence ? I don't think so.

reply to post by Schaden


Patriotism is not racism.

Now, you quote numbers and interpret your meaning. Let me throw a few things in for you to consider:

the south is where the birther movement is centralized. It is a conservative segment of the country. I think it is much more logical to ascribe it to that simple fact. Calling birthers racists is the same as telling a rape victim it was their fault.

These people have questions that pertain to eligibility. These questions have not been fully vetted. Does that not matter? Or is it just racism? Perhaps if the word "racism" hadn't been so misused over the previous 20 years (remember, it was racism if you didn't support Clinton, too), then it might be something worthy of consideration. Instead, it has been used to such an extent that it is laughable. Seriously.

It is not their fault that they are skeptical. The president has not been forthcoming on that issue. How are we going to call them racists when all they have done is ask a question and been ignored?

The label of racism is more often than not cheap. It is sad, too, because now we cannot logically discuss racism as an issue. It has been so screwed over by the spin doctors in politics that i believe it could have set US race relations back by 30 years.

This is not the fault of the birther movement. They are just the latest pawns. Before them, it was anyone who didn't agree with Obama was a racist.

reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan


just because he does use spin, doesn't mean everything out of his mouth is a lie.

Your hard headed refusal to admit that is laughable, certainly, but unfortunately is countering your original statement.

I thought, there for a second, you might actually be saying something

but now i see all you're doing is ripping on someone for their politics

you're pulling an olbermann

its called hypocrisy.

Originally posted by Snarf
just because he does use spin, doesn't mean everything out of his mouth is a lie.

Perhaps you can explain why one would need to "spin" if they are representing the truth?

While there are some positions in which he (Olbermann) and I share apparent agreement, because of his detestable delivery style, it's difficult to ascertain as to whether or not he believes what he says, or is merely pandering to his fan base.

reply to post by tothetenthpower


You know, I think it would be possible to have KO's same politics and not be so personally disgusting...He's just icky, greasy, unmanly, be ashamed to have him in the family...suck-up, teacher's pet, tattletale, moralizing hall-monitor, sing-song repeater of conventional-liberal-pieties...prating, simpering, mewling, pukey, milquetoast milksop, whinnying nonentity...he's like that melted cheese product that goes on top of the nachos from 7-11 that got spilled all over the upholstery in the car's back seat last night when everybody was drunk...one distasteful clean-up job, for sure...

I can't believe that when he was a little boy he wanted to grow up to be whatever it is that he is now...he needs a long period of self-imposed exile and a douchebag-to-human sex-change...

I wonder if anyone who likes KO must necessarily be someone who I viscerally despise also...I bet not...I haven't made a survey...I bet there must be someone who I like who does also like KO, for some appealingly bent reason...

reply to post by Snarf


I don't care about his politics. If you cannot discern that, I am sorry. I cannot make it any simpler.

It isn't his politics. No, i don't agree with his politics, i don't think. But his delivery is so horrible that i refuse to even see. While i don't judge books by their cover, if i see a book with a vile and reprehensible cover i likely will not bother to assess it any further.

This is Keith Olbermann.

I was very descriptive in what i didn't like, and why i find him tasteless. If you wish to spin that into some argument of political ideology, then that is my queue to exit the conversation. I am sure that some other misguided soul will come by to trade quid pro quo with you. Instead, i am going to assume that since you are the only one stuggling to comprehend that I have delivered my points clearly.

Keith Obermann wants to feed humans who are starving, give health care to those who cant afford it, so he is a “ Liberal” a “Progressive.”

No, he is a human being!

Those who don’t want to do that I wonder whether they are human, as well.

Originally posted by inforeal
Keith Obermann wants to feed humans who are starving, give health care to those who cant afford it, so he is a “ Liberal” a “Progressive.”

No, he is a human being!

Those who don’t want to do that I wonder whether they are human, as well.

Why don't you give away all your stuff to starving sick persons, prove your compassion, impress your friends, go on a lecture tour...Show us how it's done.