reply to post by zaiger
Ach, i can see by your last posts that this is going to be pretty borish, but here goes.
The bible is full of BS unless it talks about killing people then it is just "more people killed by religion
What does this even mean?
you forget the allowances they make for atheism and none other. "That was communism! Not atheism!
(You didnt write it, but you agreed to this)... Who are "THEY"?
What kind of asurd statement is this? Are you proposing that atheism says anything about killing people? You know Stalin didnt believe in the
invicible pink unicorn either, does that make everyone who doesnt believe in it somehow part of a disbelief that should be avoided?
Krikey, get a hold of yourself..
Atheism is merely an unbelief in a god or gods. It is a position that is negative (or neutral may be a better term) in the sense that it does not put
forth any ideology, tenets, dogma, etc. Stalinism does however.
Stalin did not kill people in the name of, or for the purpose of, atheism. Stalin's oppression of religions was due to the fact that they were an
opposing organization that people would feel loyalty to, instead of being loyal to Stalin and/or the state..
you just pulled the "stalin card", and its ridiculous.
He killed people in the name of Stalin (or the state, which in his mind was the same thing.
Now 9/11 on the other hand, they killed in the name of God, 9/11 terrorists' actions can be tied
to their religous beliefs.
Or the crusaders wiping out the infidel muslims shouting, "God is my sword and my shield!"
Edit to add:
Obviously it should be recognized that what is called religious strife is usually only partly that.. “religious wars” of the 16th and 17th
centuries were at least as much about politics.
The dangers of strife and fanaticism come from the very nature of religion itself, which deals with ultimate things.
In a sense people ought to be more ready to fight over religious dogma than over disputed territory, because religious dogma has to do with the
"highest" and most important "truths". (It requires some kind of divine revelation to teach us that we should not kill one another over religious
Religion is important to the religious because it gives life meaning. Threaten to take it away, and their life will have no meaning (they believe).
Thats why they do crazy, extreme things in the name of their religion.
Most religions teach that those who have been specially called, ordained or anointed can also carry out the punishment on behalf of God = VIOLENCE
[edit on 17/2/2010 by Daniem]