CNN poll: 52% say Obama doesn't deserve reelection in 2012, page 1
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Topic started on 17-2-2010 @ 08:22 AM by centurion1211
The Drudge headline that links to the article calls it a "Shock Poll", and maybe it is for the obama supporters here on ATS and around the country, but not to conservatives who have seen this coming - almost from the day obama took office.

Poll and article

52 percent of Americans said President Barack Obama doesn't deserve reelection in 2012, according to a new poll.

44 percent of all Americans said they would vote to reelect the president in two and a half years, less than the slight majority who said they would prefer to elect someone else.



reply posted on 17-2-2010 @ 08:24 AM by centurion1211
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Before anyone tries the old "shoot the messenger" attack against CNN, people need to keep in mind that CNN has been very supportive of obama in its coverage, so for them to post these results is pretty amazing. And what if they are still trying to support obama by making this look better for him than it really is?

Maybe the real public sentiment and poll numbers are even worse .



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reply posted on 17-2-2010 @ 08:54 AM by centurion1211
reply to post by whatukno


I actually sort of agree with you.

Problem with your solution is that Reid is going to get bounced out of office in November, and I'm sure that's weighing more on Reid's mind than what obama thinks right now.

You also have to remember that after obama trashed Reid's hometown of Las Vegas twice in speeches - after Reid had practically turned himself into obama's lapdog - Reid will have even a harder time justifying his supoort for obama with Nevada voters.

As for Pelosi, she may even think she's more popular than obama right now. Ridiculous, but watch her in action and think about it ...


reply posted on 17-2-2010 @ 09:04 AM by vor78
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Its not surprising at all. My contention all along has been that the Democrats have badly misread their supposed 'mandate', mistakenly believing that there had been some great shift in public political ideology. Instead, the 2008 election was merely a referendum on Bush and the GOP, which had strayed far from their stated party platform over eight years in office.

There lies the Democrats' mistake. The public rejected a political party, not an ideology. In Obama's case, they elected a man and not a set of policies. Now that the hype has worn off and reality has set in, people are realizing that the Democrats' brand of governance isn't what they wanted, either.

Its not just Obama. In fact, the cult of personality surrounding him has insulated him from much of the damage the Democrats controlling Congress have taken. The approval rating of Congress is awful, with around 20% approval and 70% disapproval in most polls.

My contention is simply this: Americans generally want a conservative leaning government, especially as it relates to fiscal matters, and they generally want the government to butt the hell out of their lives. In the last couple of decades, at the very least, both major parties have given them the exact opposite and its the reason that mistrust of the federal government and disapproval of government officials is as high as it has ever been.


reply posted on 17-2-2010 @ 09:52 AM by cenpuppie
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Truth is, if it doesn't matter to you, why are you here? Plenty of other non-political categories and threads on ATS where you can read and contribute.


I never said it doesn't matter, slow down chief. What i said is that it doesn't matter who the president IS, the presidency isn't the office it used to be. Virtually free from accountability, who can forget C. Rise's Frost/Nixon moment?!

When one side of our political system screws up the sheep flock to the other side, like it really makes a difference. Damn near all of these Congress folks are buddy buddy so party affiliations are moot IMO. I don't care what political party your a part of, i'm just concerned about voting for the right person for the job...the problem is that it's only Democrats and Republicans damn near all the time.

So people vote for the political party rather than the person and that's what i meant. And that's the problem, just because someone is Democrat/Republican doesn't mean they have your best interest in mind when they run.

If 9/11 had happened while a Democrat was in office, we would have been in the same situation i strongly believe. We'd have a republican president. We really don't know because it didn't happen that way but we'd be in the same boat, fighting a political war while the real culprits continue grinning from the shadows. That's all i'm trying to say.

However i do find it ironic that one of the cornerstones of being Republican is small government and it's amazing how big Uncle Sam got under Bush. Like the US really needs a Department of Homeland security. An informed and aware public is the greatest weapon any nation needs.


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reply posted on 17-2-2010 @ 09:54 AM by whatukno
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I wouldn't count on a Republican takeover in November.

1) The Republicans have been quite obstructionist with every single bill. (Not just with health care reform, but anything that the Democrats have proposed.) Voters are going to want to know why.

2) The Tea Party Movement is going to be a huge drain on GOP voter turnout. They will take a lot of votes away from the GOP candidate. Leaving the Democrat with more votes.

3) Some of these Republicans that are up for election voted for the bank bailouts. Few people wanted the banks to be bailed out and when lawmakers did it, it pissed this country right off. So any incumbent who voted for the bank bailouts is going to be in hot water this November.


reply posted on 17-2-2010 @ 10:10 AM by Fromabove
Originally posted by whatukno
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I wouldn't count on a Republican takeover in November.

1) The Republicans have been quite obstructionist with every single bill. (Not just with health care reform, but anything that the Democrats have proposed.) Voters are going to want to know why.

2) The Tea Party Movement is going to be a huge drain on GOP voter turnout. They will take a lot of votes away from the GOP candidate. Leaving the Democrat with more votes.

3) Some of these Republicans that are up for election voted for the bank bailouts. Few people wanted the banks to be bailed out and when lawmakers did it, it pissed this country right off. So any incumbent who voted for the bank bailouts is going to be in hot water this November.


1. Republicans can't stop the dems right now from doing what they want.

2. Tea party movement people will only vote for conservative pro American Constitutionally committed people no matter the party.

3. Those Repubs will not be re-elected, no matter the cost to the party.

It's not so much about party for us independents out here, but for value and committed service to the people, for the people. While I tend to lean Republican more than not, I will never cast a vote for a non conservative, or an anti-constitutionalist.


reply posted on 17-2-2010 @ 11:00 AM by iMacFanatic
reply to post by centurion1211

Right now I would agree but a lot can change in two and a half years, just look at Clinton.

As it stands disappointed doesn't even express it but I will be damned if I vote for some idiot from the GOP or worse the tea party.

If the GOP would grow up and start acting like responsible partners in government; what used to be called the loyal opposition, then maybe but that is about as likely as Democrats growing backbones.

Neither party is putting the people first but the GOP is doing a worse job of it than the Democrats with their oppose everything Obama scorched earth policy.

A pox on both their houses.


reply posted on 17-2-2010 @ 11:52 AM by Eurisko2012
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I want to see that number jump to 62%.
Obama could resign and give Joe Biden a chance.
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