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"I heard like a boom and the engine sounded funny," she told the Daily News. "I heard two more booms - and then I did not hear anything."
What does Temyer think she heard? "I think the plane was shot down,"
dailynews.philly.com...
"It came in low over the trees and started wobbling," said Tim Thornsberg, a resident of Somerset County, who was working near an old strip mine when he saw the plane.
"Then it just rolled over and was flying upside down for a few seconds ... and then it kind of stalled and did a nose dive over the trees. It was just unreal to see something like that."
www.pittsburgh.com...
Wobbling, cart-wheeling, then nose dive? What kind of craft, wha? I agree, it was unreal..
"It came in low over the trees and started wobbling," said Tim Thornsberg, a resident of Somerset County, who was working near an old strip mine when he saw the plane.
"Then it just rolled over and was flying upside down for a few seconds ... and then it kind of stalled and did a nose dive over the trees. It was just unreal to see something like that."
www.pittsburgh.com...
What kind of plane? Upside down? crash into the trees? how can they have seen it if the terrain didnt allow them to see it.... another assumption.
“I saw the plane flying upside down overhead and crash into the nearby trees. My buddy, Doug, and I grabbed our fire extinguishers and ran to the scene,” said Blair.
www.dailyamerican.com...
Eric Peterson of Lambertsville looked up when he heard the plane. "It was low enough, I thought you could probably count the rivets," Peterson said. "You could see more of the roof of the plane than you could the belly. It was on its side."
"There was a great explosion and you could see the flames. It was a massive, massive explosion. Flames and then smoke and then a massive, massive mushroom cloud."
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“Normally I wouldn’t look up, but I just heard on the news that all the planes were grounded and thought this was probably the last one I would see for a while, so I looked up,” she said. “I didn’t see the plane but I heard the plane’s engine. Then I heard a loud thump that echoed off the hills and then I heard the plane’s engine. I heard two more loud thumps and didn’t hear the plane’s engine anymore after that.”
www.dailyamerican.com...
"We didn't hear that plane coming until it was right on top of us," she said. "Then there was a roar." She said the plane appeared to be gliding into the ground. "All at once it just stopped. There was no engine noise, nothing. Someone hollered, Oh my God!' and then there was a real loud thud."
www.cleveland.com.../xml/story.ssf/html_standard.xsl?/base/news/100028703529429109.xml
Shortly after 10 a.m., workers on farms and scrap yards in Somerset County looked up to see an airliner flying low and erratic at an estimated 450 mph.
www.dailyamerican.com...
Bob Blair of Stoystown was driving a coal truck on state Route 30 when he saw the jet plummet "straight down." Barn windowpanes for half a mile around shattered as the jet dived into a reclaimed strip mine and exploded at 10:10 a. m.
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A witness told WTAE-TV's Paul Van Osdol that she saw the plane overhead. It made a high-pitched, screeching sound. The plane then made a sharp, 90-degree downward turn and crashed.
newsandviews.tripod.com...
Bob Blair was completing a routine drive to Shade Creek just after 10 a.m. Tuesday, when he saw a huge silver plane fly past him just above the treetops and crash into the woods along Lambertsville Road.
Blair, of Stoystown, a driver with Jim Barron Trucking of Somerset, was traveling in a coal truck along with Doug Miller of Somerset, when they saw the plane spiraling to the ground and then explode on the outskirts of Lambertsville.
“I saw the plane flying upside down overhead and crash into the nearby trees. My buddy, Doug, and I grabbed our fire extinguishers and ran to the scene,” said Blair.
www.dailyamerican.com...
"(I) heard the engine gun two different times," he said. "(I) heard a loud bang and the windows of the houses all around rattled."
www.pjstar.com...
"People were calling in and reporting pieces of plane falling," a state trooper said. Jim Stop reported he had seen the hijacked Boeing 757 fly over him as he was fishing. He said he could see parts falling from the plane.
I lost this link.. but since the witness name is there I've left it up.
Some witnesses reported that the plane was flying upside down for a time before the crash; others said they heard up to three loud booms before the jetliner went down.
www.post-gazette.com...
Most of the witnesses still stand by their knowledge that what they saw was NOT a Boeing 757.
Originally posted by hooper
reply to post by Shadow Herder
Most of the witnesses still stand by their knowledge that what they saw was NOT a Boeing 757.
Originally posted by Shadow Herder
Originally posted by hooper
reply to post by Shadow Herder
Most of the witnesses still stand by their knowledge that what they saw was NOT a Boeing 757.
You know better than most that not ONE PERSON saw 'it' crash but assume it crashed except for that on Rollock employee, Paul... He said that he watched and heard the plane for 10-20 seconds as it flew upside down "40-feet' above him which is a complete contradiction and an impossibility to the official story.
[edit on 18-2-2010 by Shadow Herder]
Originally posted by hooper
I never a claimed as to the percentages.
United Airlines stores the material at an Iron Mountain storage facility outside of Pittsburgh. The link is right here on ATS unless your too lazy to look it up. Plus you could always just email UAL direct.
Originally posted by Shadow Herder
Originally posted by hooper
reply to post by Shadow Herder
Most of the witnesses still stand by their knowledge that what they saw was NOT a Boeing 757.
You know better than most that not ONE PERSON saw 'it' crash but assume it crashed except for that on Rollock employee, Paul... He said that he watched and heard the plane for 10-20 seconds as it flew upside down "40-feet' above him which is a complete contradiction and an impossibility to the official story.
[edit on 18-2-2010 by Shadow Herder]
According to the National Transportation Safety Board, which announced this month that it had gathered 349 eyewitness accounts through interviews or written statements, 52 percent said they saw a fire while the plane was in the air. The largest number (22 percent) said the fire was in the fuselage, but a majority cited other locations, including the left engine, the right engine, the left wing, the right wing or an unspecified engine or wing.
Nearly one of five witnesses said they saw the plane make a right turn; an equal number said it was a left turn. Nearly 60 percent said they saw something fall off the plane; of these, 13 percent said it was a wing. (In fact, it was the vertical portion of the tail.)
None of this is surprising, said Dr. Charles R. Honts, a professor of psychology at Boise State University and the editor of the Journal of Credibility Assessment and Witness Psychology. "Eyewitness memory is reconstructive," said Dr. Honts, who is not associated with the safety board. "The biggest mistake you can make is to think about a memory like it's a videotape; there's not a permanent record there."
The problem, he said, is that witnesses instinctively try to match events with their past experiences: "How many plane crashes have you witnessed in real life? Probably none. But in the movies? A lot. In the movies, there's always smoke and there's always fire."
Originally posted by ImAPepper
There is an overwhelming amount of evidence the proves Flight 93 crashed in Shanksville.Everyone knows eyewitness statements are the least reliable. You need to look at all the physical evidence.:
Originally posted by REMISNE
I am still waiting for anyone to post this so called evidence.
I am talking real evidence, the kind that would hold up in court.
The following web pages link to all 1,202 exhibits admitted into evidence during the trial of U.S. v. Moussaoui, with the exception of seven that are classified or otherwise remain under seal. This is the first criminal case for which a federal court has provided access to all exhibits online. The exhibits were posted on July 31, 2006.
Originally posted by ImAPepper
Roger, you parrot the same lines over and over and over. You have been told COUNTLESS times that there was a trial. Evidence was used in a court of law pertaining to the hijacking and crash of Flight 93.
Originally posted by REMISNE
Yes i do parrot it becasue no one has yet to post what i ask for.
We are not talking about the trial exhibts that by the way were not good enough to charge OBL with being behind 9/11 and also probably would not hold up in court again.
I am asking for anyone to past actual evidence such as,
1. Any official reports matching parts to flight 93.
2. Any official reprots or photos of the parts and where they are now.
Originally posted by REMISNE
I am still waiting for anyone to post this so called evidence.
I am talking real evidence, the kind that would hold up in court.
Originally posted by ImAPepper
So, the evidence that was used to convict Zacarias Moussaoui wasn't "real enough" for you? It's evidence, it held up in court.
Oh... you want OTHER evidence that would help convict him. Silly me!
Originally posted by REMISNE
Well that evidence was meant for THAT trial and was barely enough to convict him, (which we all know he was going to be convicted any way)
Some if that evidence in a new trail would be argued.
Please stay on topic we are not talking about convicting him again are we?