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reply posted on 16-2-2010 @ 04:49 PM by EMPIRE
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Your "understanding" means your "interpretation", and for every "Black Israelite" trumpeting a cause there are probably ten or more white fundamentalist Christians who support Israel, believe in an Israeli/British connection and see no problem with OBAMA, someone you cited as a socialist and part of this masteful uprising of people of color that will slaughter whites, bowing before AIPAC and continuing the policy of providing monetary aide to Israel.


reply posted on 16-2-2010 @ 05:51 PM by undo
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yeah it's not pretty no matter how you slice it. the end of the world ain't a pretty thing. everyone's mad and afraid and pointing fingers and frankly, the whole thing is starting to look like a madhouse. when i'm trying to understand why some things happen, i usually research it, talk to people who believe it, read, watch info on it, and try to determine just exactly what direction its designers intend for it to go. considering how anti-christian/jew ATS has been lately, and considering how the younger generation is brought up on music that pounds that idea into their heads, night and day, it's not hard to connect the rest of the dots. doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out


reply posted on 17-2-2010 @ 04:01 AM by Nyrossius Maxim
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Fascism: corporations and governments merging.

In the case of America, corporations buying out the government, instead of the government taking over corporations. Same either way. It's fascism. Remember: Nazi = National SOCIALISM


reply posted on 17-2-2010 @ 06:59 AM by undo
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there's a big debate i read on this somewhere in the last year or so, regarding the definition of national socialism and fascism. i'll see if i can find it. if anything, doesn't it seem more like a puppet monarchy? like the corps are little nobility titles and somewhere at the end of the strings, is a royal?

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reply posted on 25-2-2010 @ 12:02 AM by Allar
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Ok so I feel obliged to respond to your claim that the United States is "pretty socialistic." I live in Canada which is far more socialist than the United States will ever be (notice the qualifier 'more' I'm not saying Canada IS socialist) and I find it strange that you're claiming that the US is socialistic by any stretch of the imagination.
Socialism means a lot of different things to different people which may perhaps be where I'm not following here but in my experience socialism refers to the ideal of attaining a classless, communal society by using the state to reform itself to the point where it becomes obsolete and then can be done away with all together. Any Political Science majors out there I apologize for such a watered down definition but it's to make a point. If we're following those criteria then I fail to see any steps being taken by the American government to meet such goals which would render them non-socialist.
If by socialism you mean (and I think you do), state control of industry and business' then the current US government is even LESS of a candidate for 'socialism.' In this case the implication is that the government owns business and industry but in the US it's the opposite, business and industry undoubtedly control the government.
If you define socialism in some other way then I would be more than happy to hear it as I recognize that I may have missed your intent. If I have then please elaborate so that I can understand the point you are driving at in a more complete fashion.

In Sincerity
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