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reply posted on 16-2-2010 @ 09:14 PM by Annee

Didn't the OP say she/he was with holding some information on purpose.

So she would know if someone did give the right answser she/he would know they were speaking from real experience?

Example: what they were carrying.

reply posted on 16-2-2010 @ 09:15 PM by Gamecock

reply to post by OzWeatherman

as eager as i am to know what the OP was carrying, i can understand why she is not telling us. It is a way for her to verify if others were really there or not.

I am sorry that i cannot help you with your search for answers, but this thread has left many of us hanging with our own questions, and you can most definitely help us... You mentioned that your friend tried to move near you, but "they" would not let her, and she responded by saying she is a human and has free will and can therefore do whatever she wants... i'm a bit confused from the story, did she end up moving near you or not? and to connect back to the larger picture, do we have free will or are we determined?

Have other people, like family or friends, met this close friend that also experienced the grey room? Is it possible she is a delusion and that this entire thing was merely a dream or some delusion you had/have?

Could you elaborate in any more detail on your total process. You said it was over 6 weeks... can you describe how you were contacted or what you were told? Do you think you gave birth to some alien baby or something since you were both told by different doctors that you had already given birth.

Also, you say that you had you abilities given or opened up in this grey room... can you elaborate on those abilities?

Good luck on your search for answers, and i hope that you can help me with my own search for knowledge.

reply posted on 16-2-2010 @ 09:21 PM by Waiting2

Originally posted by Annee

Yes - that sounds about right. I was 5 in 1951. I had OBEs most nights and went there. I was so young - the man told me I was too young to understand living in two worlds. My childhood was difficult because I had no one to communicate with. But as you said. I had no fear of death - - and knew this other dimension existed.

Guess I need to follow this thread and learn about the grey room.

When I left that place (the river), it was like a part of me died, although that isn't quite right. I felt a tremendous loss. It was difficult for me because I had no one except my friend to communicate with. Those were prime dating years. I was in a serious relationship and broke it off. I could not be in a serious relationship with one person when I loved ALL.

It was a very lonely time for me. You MUST have been very lonely, too. I was 20 and yet it was still hard to live in two worlds. You expressed that part perfectly.

When I finally realized I wasn't going back to the "river", I made a conscious choice to continue my life as it was before I'd been exposed to that place. I became less perfect (more human). I began to date again, have dreams/aspirations. I began to think about the future again.

I know you know exactly what I am talking about.

It is hard to come up with vocabulary to describe that place. I don't think our language has the correct words for it. Because we all use different phrases/words for the same experience, it is hard to find others.

That place was Truth. Love. Knowledge. All yet Separate. Separate yet One. Belonging. Home.

I miss it. And yet, I am grateful for the life and family I have now. I would not have had either if I had stayed there.

You said the man said you were too young to understand living in two worlds. My friend called it the River of Power. I saw it more as the River of Time or of Knoweldge. (I'm not into "power.")

Annee, do you think it really is another world?

I definitely knew it as a place. My theory is that we are all a part of it, but we cannot stay in it too long because then we do not become attached to people here. It was almost addicting. Attachment was not important there because we were all connected and already attached. For some reason, attachments are important here.

Annee, why do you think you were shown it/allowed to go there?

I'm not sure, but I think I was shown it as a gift. It made me aware of possibilities. I learned that I am a part of everyone, just as everyone is a part of me. It has helped me become more compassionate.

reply posted on 16-2-2010 @ 09:24 PM by OzWeatherman

Originally posted by Gamecock
reply to post by OzWeatherman

as eager as i am to know what the OP was carrying, i can understand why she is not telling us. It is a way for her to verify if others were really there or not.

Then why go into so much detail about everything else?

It doesnt make sense to leave out specific details, especially when you mention them yet claim they are not important,

reply posted on 16-2-2010 @ 09:24 PM by Aislin

Were the people in your grey room holding a flower?

reply posted on 16-2-2010 @ 09:28 PM by UberL33t

reply to post by Gamecock

as eager as i am to know what the OP was carrying, i can understand why she is not telling us. It is a way for her to verify if others were really there or not.

Be that as it may, and I believe that you stated that you have followed ATS for sometime, So you should know that ATS is a very deep think tank and a lot of people, whether seeing the "gray room" or not, could quite possibly give you the information that you are seeking. That is, provided you disclose all the information from the experience.

I understand your logic behind not wanting to reveal the object you were carrying. However, I also firmly believe that fellow ATS'ers will go out of there way to help you on your quest for knowledge provided you are willing to participate. Even the minutest of details can go along way. I think you have enough information from the experience alone to determine whether some one would be genuine or not, so keep that in mind as this thread progresses.

reply posted on 16-2-2010 @ 09:29 PM by zaiger

YouTube Link

Yeah there it is for ya

reply posted on 16-2-2010 @ 09:45 PM by UberL33t

ETA:

Have decided this post was off topic

Omitted.

[edit on 2/16/2010 by UberL33t]

reply posted on 16-2-2010 @ 10:16 PM by Waiting2

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
reply to post by Waiting2

Well....i wonder if you can determine WHO had you in the room.

Were there others in the room that didn't fit in? Maybe they were milling around, or wearing a uniform? In a room full of random outfits, look for the "order", not the chaos. Who was too "orderly" to fit in?

Could you see the edge of the group of people? Or did that stretch off for as far as you were aware?

When you say you were lucid...do you mean that you were under what seemed like full control? It seems almost as if you felt under control, but in retrospect it may be less control, and more being controlled.

I would put my bets on it being hypnotic in nature. That is what it sounds like you are describing. Either hypnotized, or under the influence of a hypnotic power (chemical/energetic).

Were your parents in the service? Have you lived near bases? How about universities, such as the University of New York - Rochester?

You're asking great questions. My friend feels she freely chose. I FELT in control, but I do wonder if I was being controlled. I was given a choice. I fully chose to go. But again, I don't know if I was MADE to feel like I had a choice. I was hoping this would strike a cord in someone else who was there so they could respond.

I could see the edge of the group. We were in clusters but our overall shape was a very large circle. It seemed to follow the shape of the room. No one was in uniform. They were all wearing every day clothes, exept that one guy I talked to in the towel.

My friend never saw who had us in the room. I did. They saw that I noticed, looked at me, and talked about me. It was my quick impression that most people didn't see them and they were shocked that I did. Suddenly and immediately I was back in my house with my friend. I said, "What just happened?!" My friend was in the room and saw all the people, but did not see those who brought us together. I am looking for others in the room to verify what I saw.

Parents not in service. Other relatives were. Have lived near bases. Have lived within driving distance of NY. I know what you're getting at here. I have NO idea.

reply posted on 16-2-2010 @ 10:23 PM by bigfatfurrytexan

reply to post by Waiting2

well...i am going to follow the thread. It looks interesting to me, honestly, regardless of its truth, relative and otherwise.

I would hazard a guess that the description of "those that were holding you there", or the hosts, would be another piece of info you want to hold onto until you find more of the story? If not, their description would be interesting, including:

gender
height
hair/skin/eye color
clothing
skin palor (were they sickly, strange in any way a la MIB stories)
build
clothing
demeanor (how did they let on that they knew you were noticing them, etc).
how many?

Something else that might be interesting to know is if the other people in this room....is there anything familiar about them? Often, from what i understand, if mental suggestions are used, the mind will actually draw on previous points of reference when building the implanted memory. It has to do with the way the human brain processes visualizations, etc. If you have a memory that is tampered with, a "footprint" might be found in the details of the memory. For instance, if there are people of a race you are not as familiar with, are they familiar with people you have interacted with in the past, even if in a small and passing manner?

reply posted on 16-2-2010 @ 10:26 PM by Waiting2

Originally posted by Gamecock
reply to post by OzWeatherman

I am sorry that i cannot help you with your search for answers, but this thread has left many of us hanging with our own questions, and you can most definitely help us... You mentioned that your friend tried to move near you, but "they" would not let her, and she responded by saying she is a human and has free will and can therefore do whatever she wants... i'm a bit confused from the story, did she end up moving near you or not? and to connect back to the larger picture, do we have free will or are we determined?

Have other people, like family or friends, met this close friend that also experienced the grey room? Is it possible she is a delusion and that this entire thing was merely a dream or some delusion you had/have?

Could you elaborate in any more detail on your total process. You said it was over 6 weeks... can you describe how you were contacted or what you were told? Do you think you gave birth to some alien baby or something since you were both told by different doctors that you had already given birth.

Also, you say that you had you abilities given or opened up in this grey room... can you elaborate on those abilities?

Good luck on your search for answers, and i hope that you can help me with my own search for knowledge.

My friend moved near me.

I believe we have free will.

Many people know both me and my friend. We're ordinary people living quite ordinary lives.

To my knoweldge, we have never given birth to any other babies besides the ones we already have. It was just odd that the doctors thought we were lying.

reply posted on 16-2-2010 @ 10:28 PM by Wandering Scribe

@ Waiting2

I apologize if you've misread my intentions.

I am not someone writing a book, or looking to turn everything into some "study" on the people involved. I am simply collecting everything that I can concerning mystical/spiritual/religious experiences.

My inquiry into your experience was simply aesthetic. I collect records of unexplained events, and when I have collected enough events concerning a similar concept I try to forge links between them. My goal, it can be said, is the same as your own. Only you are seeking answers concerning your "Grey Room", whereas I am seeking far larger answers concerning all the Grey Rooms. As well as all of the other various mystical/spiritual/extraterrestrial places and events.

I respect your decision to not partake or explain your experience further. I just wanted you to know that my intentions may have been misconstrued along the way. I bid you good day, and good luck in finding your fellow Grey Room attendants.

reply posted on 16-2-2010 @ 10:28 PM by Waiting2

reply to post by zaiger

Right idea and colors.

Except this was a very large room.

reply posted on 16-2-2010 @ 10:30 PM by Waiting2

reply to post by Annee

Yes.

Thank you for understanding.

reply posted on 16-2-2010 @ 10:43 PM by Waiting2

reply to post by Wandering Scribe

I was not offended in the least and am sorry if that is what you thought. I know what it is like to be on a spiritual journey gathering clues and searching for answers.

Something strange happened to me, to us. I have rarely talked about it and have tried to live a normal life, but it was constantly on my mind.

I want answers. I think the only ones who can really help me are the others who were in that room. I know one. My friend knows another. They remember a little. So far none of them except me saw who held us. But, that is not the only question I have. It's like being at the scene of an accident. You don't get whole story if you talk to only one witness. I'm looking for other witnesses.

reply posted on 16-2-2010 @ 10:55 PM by Waiting2

Originally posted by UberL33t
reply to post by Gamecock

Be that as it may, and I believe that you stated that you have followed ATS for sometime, So you should know that ATS is a very deep think tank and a lot of people, whether seeing the "gray room" or not, could quite possibly give you the information that you are seeking. That is, provided you disclose all the information from the experience.

I understand your logic behind not wanting to reveal the object you were carrying. However, I also firmly believe that fellow ATS'ers will go out of there way to help you on your quest for knowledge provided you are willing to participate. Even the minutest of details can go along way. I think you have enough information from the experience alone to determine whether some one would be genuine or not, so keep that in mind as this thread progresses.

It wasn't meant as a tease.

I have been as honest and open as I can on a website where the world can read everything I say. I gave you as much information as I could without giving it all away.

Realistically, I cannot be TOO open because then any yahoo can claim they were there. I didn't take down anyone's names when I was in that room. My goal is finding out the truth. I don't want to be conned.

Also, I do not want to falsely jog someone's memory. I am looking for people who know and remember they were there.

My friend also wants to know. There are two of us searching.

reply posted on 16-2-2010 @ 10:55 PM by Wandering Scribe

@ Waiting2

I did not take offense, I was simply following the protocol I have developed for myself. Being that a majority of my work does involve asking for very troubling events to be recounted, I have created a system that prohibits me from forcing my will upon others for the sake of understanding their experiences. It was out of respect and adherence to my system that I responded how I did.

Maybe upon a future date, when you've gathered more witnesses and can extrapolate upon the collective experiences, I will make a return visit to see if the collective would recount their tales. For now though, I will simply gather my data from the responses on this thread and keep a light file on the Grey Room until other files start to form lines with it.

reply posted on 16-2-2010 @ 11:04 PM by Waiting2

reply to post by Wandering Scribe

Thank you. If you hear of anyone who talks about similar things, please point them in my direction. I don't need/want names. I think most of them prefer to be anonymous for their own safety. I know I feel the same way. I just want to know what happened to us and why.

reply posted on 16-2-2010 @ 11:10 PM by Dorian Soran