Clinton seeks Saudi help to win China's backing on Iran sanctions

Clinton seeks Saudi help to win China's backing on Iran sanctions

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Secretary of State Hillary Clinton flew to the Gulf on Sunday to seek oil-rich Saudi Arabia’s help in pressing China to join the US drive for sanctions against Iran, aides said. The US chief diplomat’s three-day trip to Qatar and Saudi Arabia is also aimed at enlisting broader regional support, including Turkey’s, in a drive to stop Iran’s sensitive nuclear work, her aides told reporters.

Clinton’s aides neither confirmed nor denied suggestions that they would ask Saudi leaders to offer China, which imports much of its oil from Iran, supply guarantees in return for Beijing’s su

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So far, China and Russia have opposed any crippling sanctions against the Iranian regime. On the one hand, Netanyahu is in Moscow to seek support for what looks like a last ditched effort for sanctions to work against Iran. On the other hand, Hillary Clinton is in Gulf to seek Saudi influence in persuading China for supporting tougher sanctions.

I believe that a crucial point in the above article is the proposal for supply guarantees by Saudi Arabia to China. Is the Obama administration planning on enforcing naval blockade as a part of the latest set of "crippling sanctions"? Because, in case of a naval blockade, Iranian oil supply to China might be affected. Hence, that might explain the proposed guarantees offered by Saudi to Chinese as far as uninterrupted oil supply is concerned.

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Originally posted by order in chaos


So far, China and Russia have opposed any crippling sanctions against the Iranian regime. On the one hand, Netanyahu is in Moscow to seek support for what looks like a last ditched effort for sanctions to work against Iran. On the other hand, Hillary Clinton is in Gulf to seek Saudi influence in persuading China for supporting tougher sanctions.

I believe that a crucial point in the above article is the proposal for supply guarantees by Saudi Arabia to China. Is the Obama administration planning on enforcing naval blockade as a part of the latest set of "crippling sanctions"? Because, in case of a naval blockade, Iranian oil supply to China might be affected. Hence, that might explain the proposed guarantees offered by Saudi to Chinese as far as uninterrupted oil supply is concerned.

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China still won't go for it because of three things. One, they still hold a trillion and a half in our debt in their banks and could start selling in small tranches that debt in order to scare our markets. Two, they have their own tankers so they could just sail their ships and dare the US to attack their tankers and start a war. They could sail them up the Gulf and dock at the Iranian oil facility and sail out. And three, it's in China's and Russia's best interest to keep Iran as a foil against the west and let us spend energy fighting for Israeli supremacy. Israel doesn't want them to have nukes because once they do you can't threaten them or attack them without getting nuked yourself. Also being an oil country, they could bully and/or draw other Arab countries under their protection if they would rather have their oil priced in another currency or a basket of currencies (their goes the petro dollar).

Ask yourself why haven't Saudi Arabia developed nuclear power, they definitely have the money? It's because the US guaranteed protecting them if they kept oil priced in dollars and such. But if Saudi Arabia had nuclear power, they could make their own deals to benefit them instead of us. So you see it's about making sure that the biggest are of the world that has cheap oil is looking out for the US and the west side of things and not themselves.

It is neither in China or Russia’s interest to back sanctions against Iran. While our Government might deny it, and our people might be ignorant of it or in denial about it themselves the reality is that one by one the U.S. Government has been militarily occupying every strategic major source of Middle Eastern Oil and anyone who actually believes this whole sordid affair with Iran’s nuclear ambitions is not just simply a pretext to add Iran to that U.S. Military Portfolio of occupied oil producing countries is just plain gullible and tragically misguided.

It does not behoove China to have a U.S. brokered, U.S. controlled source of oil. It simply makes China hostage to us for oil and China is already far more of a hostage to us for oil than it wishes to be.

Why do you think China has loaned us so much money? How do you think it really is possible for the U.S. Government to operate on staggering deficits and borrow money hand over fist it can’t afford to pay back and print money when its not convenient to borrow?

It is because the mechanized economies and militaries of the world are totally reliant upon U.S. Controlled sources of oil.

We have boots on the ground and military bases in the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Iraq and control every Persian Gulf Oil Producing State but Iran. We control the pipeline coming out of Kazakhstan through Turkmenistan through Afghanistan which maintains the flow of Kazakhstan’s oil to the west which is the largest source of oil in old Soviet Asia and possibly the entire world.

The reality is that China can not collapse our economy as we can just print more money but we can collapse theirs because their industrial infrastructure would grind to a halt if we cut off the flow or oil we control to it.

China has few independent non-U.S./U.K. controlled sources of oil. Iran is one of the few and China knows it would be cutting its own throat to do anything that will hasten or ensure our eventual takeover of Iran too.

China has absolutely nothing to gain under any scenario in helping the United States in its pre-war isolation and preparation to attack Iran.

Anyone who imagines we aren’t going to attack Iran was simply not paying attention to the events that led up to the attack of Iraq and Afghanistan. Anyone who imagines that Iran’s nuclear threat is real simply wasn’t paying attention to the Weapons of Mass Destruction theme song being played in the pre-war run up to the attack on Iraq.

It is safe to say that China is not suffering under any such illusions or delusions which are why she and Russia have wisely rejected aiding the U.S. in its orchestrated stigmatizing and persecuting of the Iranian regime.

The Iran nuclear issue is no longer an isolated one related to U.S, Israel and Iran. Iran is slowly becoming a powder keg that could threaten the stability and the political order of not just the middle east but also the entire world. Israelis as well as the Americans know very well that the Iranians have created a tentative security alliance with Hezbollah,Syria and Hamas. It is estimated that the Hezbollah possesses around 40000 small to medium range rockets. If Israelis go after Iran, Hezbollah, Syria and even Hamas might spring into action. Even the Turks are no longer aloof from this crisis. Turkish PM's sudden affinity for Iran might tip the scales even more in the favor of Iran. And we have not yet included China and Russia in the political equation. China and Russia would be happy to see a strengthened Iranian regime, which they believe might act as a deterrent against U.S-Israeli-Saudi-Gulf Sheikdoms alliance.

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Although we have disagreed on many of the finer details of this escalating situation in the past, I find your above reply to be Spot on!


[edit on 15-2-2010 by SLAYER69]

As or Clinton's And Bush's... They are finished and scavenging to get every last dollar they can. It would be outrage to have them disappear so suddenly, but they are being winged out of political spotlight.

As for Iran, their Nuclear Faility is going to be attacked if they don't withdrawl & turnover. 300+ Warships await confirmation, sitting in the Gulf of Aden, Channels, and other water bodies around Yemen and Oman are warships 300+ Waships from almost every country getting ready to black out Iran for good.

Oil industry is dead, due to the financial crisis & the Fall of the Rockafeller..there is simply no market or a need for oil anymore. Only to be dispersed accordingly in transisting to a more efficient means of power.

Rockafeller owned roughly 600 trillion in oil investments not icluding Rothschilds investments, but was riding on Fake Gold Bullion which they tried to pass off again and again and were foiled. 60 trillion dollars worth of oil investments irradicated and cripled the market. The othe countries are in agreement to drop all debts and restabilize the economy without the poisonous factions & controllers.

The Country governments will be reset and reworked, the economy will be reset and rewrked, the World is going to appoint a new world ambassador under the natural laws of the people, their growth and technology, and for the sake of this planet.

China is not going to back Clintons, nor will Russia or any other country, they allready have their goal set. The media or personnel surrounding Clintons and Bushes can say what they wan to try and gain credit or face to collect what they can, but the truth is coming, and with a vengance.

A look back at Presidency. Bush Sr.; Clinton; G. Bush; Hilary was running(but foiled), Palin backed out (unwillingly), but Obama was purposely appointed to break their cycle & curruted alligence beteen the Bush's & Clinton's. Obama is the last president, Obama knew he was goin to be president since he was 22 years old and was seasoned for these years & the events to follow. He is a runner up for the Ambassador position.

2012 is coming quickly, and there is no ime for silly games of power and domination. 2011 is clean up year. 2012 is the mass landing date and the start of the Alien allied venture into the new evolution of earth.

[edit on 15-2-2010 by Cosmicdjinn]