Originally posted by riley
You posted government sources statistics and presented them as anonymous when they were based on police reports. You tried to decieve.
Nope I never said they were anonymous, either you don't read, or you are trying to deceive: here is my quote:
statistics can be done anonymously, eh haven't you learned that in school.
1. Relatives can rape too.
Yes very true, similarly dads can rape their daughters, hence the recent case discovered in the US where a father locked her daughter for 21 years (I
think) and consequently raped her.
My point wasn't that relatives don't rape, my point was that if a relative is there, that means she won't commit adultery with that individual. If
she does it is her and the culprit's fault under the Saudi law (they will both be punished), but if she claims she was raped it would be obvious in
to who did it, and if that individual did. The case would be thousands of times easier.
Here educate yourself lol:
Rape is a terrible crime. It should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. But false rape charges are a troublesome reality. At least 10
percent and perhaps as many as 40 percent of all rape charges are lies. Research results In the Midwest:
· 41% of the total rape cases were recanted by the alleged victim during a 9-year study in a metropolitan Midwestern town.
·45 of the 109 complainants admitted that no rape had occurred in period.
The incidence figure (from 1978 to 1987) of false rape varied from year to year and ranged from a low of ·27% to a high of 70%
The alleged rape victims admitted that they had made the false rape charges for three reasons:
· to create an alibi,
· to get revenge,
· to get attention or sympathy.
Educated women lie, too....
· University women were as likely to file a false rape charge as a valid charge. Other reports from university police agencies support these findings
2. Just because a woman does not have an escort does not mean she deserves to get raped.
Nope you are right, no one deserves to get raped, what is your point? Twisting and turning, nice try.
Rape is rape, we are talking about justice, how can you receive justice in rape charges when it is almost impossible to find out whether someone had a
sexual relationship or got raped? Anyone can claim they got raped, but how can you prove it?
3. So relatives would stand around and WATCH their daughter/mother/sister get raped would they?
Don't get your point, why would they stand around and watch? People have cellphones these days, even the Arabs, and they have law enforcement
agencies also, they are not cave men as you perceive them to be.
and if they are not around she must be punnished/whipped for that?
Nope that is a assumption you are making, you still haven't brought forward any law which states a women should be punished due to rape. Must be FOX
That is truly barbarac. Do not pretend treating women like pets that need leashes is a moral thing to do..
Women need leashes, lol how did you come up with that one? How is the company of a family member turn in to pets and leashes, wow nice way to turn
something to completely something different. Playing with your own brain there.
I do not see why you would be proud that women aren't allowed to take a walk by themselves. If you think that invites rape your men must really have
No! They are, but not far distance where dangerous people could lurk around(hence rapists), any responsible parent or husband wouldn't allow such a
thing, so why should the law? Isn't the law there to protect people, and bring an end to injustice?
.. and most women would NOT report rapes in a country where they punnish the rape victims.
Once again you still haven't provided any law which states a women should be punished for getting raped lol. Keep saying that and it might come
In Saudi Arabia a woman can get flogged or jailed for getting raped.. everyone knows this
First a rape victim should prove that she is a rape victim, you can't just take people's words for it, its called justice.
And am I the only one who doesn't know this? Am I the only who doesn't know that in Saudi law women can get flogged or jailed for getting raped
so to try say that thats somehow morally okay is disgusting. Do not pretend they are getting punnished for lieing.. nothing about those articles
suggested they were false accusations.. and given a woman needs four male witnesses her chances of getting justice would be very low.
The 19-year-old victim was sentenced last year to 90 lashes for meeting with an unrelated male, a former friend from whom she was retrieving
Yeah it wasn't because she got raped, it was because she was doing something against the law.
Families kill their own daughters if they get raped. Being ashamed is nothing cmpared to fearing for their own life.
You make it sound as if rape victims are being killed all over Saudi Arabia or being punished all over Saudi Arabia for being raped lol. Nice try
You said the stats you posted proved raoe happened less in non western countries. I said rape stats would reflect a lack of reporting so you claimed
that you were posting anoymous stats.
Nope never stated I was posting anonymous stats, if I did please provid the quote for me because honestly I have short term memory loss (sometimes
Then you posted stats based on reported rapes and I DID look at those stats.. they did NOT back up your claims.
Yes it did, the stats clearly shows a lot of people are raped in Western nations, heck they say 1 person every minute or two. We are talking about
hard stats as stats, we are not quiet sure how many people get raped unreported. If you are going to talk about unreported rape then surely I can do
that too, you act as if rapes don't go unreported in Western nations lol.. Nice try..
Why the hell are you posting that crap for? It has nothing to do with the subject. Why do you keep saying "lets blame the terrorists"? Take your
anti-western hate elsewhere.
Because it shows your system has failed the people, why is it so hard to criticize your own, but easy to criticize others? Ofcurse you're not the
only one with such attitude, there are many like you, but you need to change your way of thought and stop living in a dream..
[edit on 23-2-2010 by oozyism]