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Originally posted by Dock9
reply to post by riley
I appreciate everything you've written here, as I'm sure do all who'll read it
It's a very complex and emotion-arousing issue, isn't it ? Which is why the poll results (50% of women blame female rape victims) are worthy of discussion and analysis
We could also add to what you've said by including the mature-aged Australian woman who was drugged and raped on a cruise. The rapists stuck together and denied all charges for a long time, claiming the victim had been willing.
So they not only stole her dignity and rights (and consciousness !) when she was alive -- they defamed her when she was dead and unable to defend herself.
Imagine being the husband and child of that poor woman, trying to cope with her death --unable to even bury her with dignity but being instead compelled to wait until the coroner had concluded examination -- and having to listen to and see the lurid headlines where she was accused by several men of being a willing party to drunken sex with all of them
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Rape is definitely never the fault of the victim but ...
Learning street awareness, situational awareness, common sense and even learning to listen to one’s own sixth sense is something all women and men should actively develop as a helpful deterent against all forms of violent crimes.
An ounce of prevention is after all worth a pound of cure.
Originally posted by deadline527
Sadly too many women lie about rape for whatever reason, and your idea of justice would cause many innocent people to be in danger. Just think, if vigilante justice was allowed for rapists, all the lady would have to do if she wanted someone gone is say they raped her. Well. They do that anyway, but vigilantism would not make the situation any better
Originally posted by saturnine_sweet
I can't say I exactly agree with the sentiment of these women, but I can understand it. I know several women who have in fact been raped, and every one of them was under the influence of either drugs or alcohol at the time, while being around people of questionable ethics. I can't say that its their fault, but at the same time, in one case that comes to mind, if youre a beautiful woman who also happens to weigh a whole 100lbs and you get wasted at a big party where you only know a few people....what exactly do you EXPECT to happen? You might as well run into traffic and then blame someone for hitting you. Its still horrible that it happens, but you can't be an idiot and expect no consequences, either.
Originally posted by Dock9
reply to post by MarlboroRedCowgirl
So you don't believe a woman's behaviour or dress is partially responsible, in terms of the message she may be perceived as sending out ?
Originally posted by Koolcdj69
I am not saying the blame is on women, but when or if women dress in like a manner that would interest a crazy lunatic guy, it gets him which can be in a way a women's fault, knowing what they are wearing or exposing of themselves may suade a crazy guy into doing something.
Originally posted by Dark Ghost
The Feminist Lobby making websites which feature women in their underwear, pointing at their bodies and saying "This does not mean you can rape me!" does NOT help the situation. Encouraging women to express their sexual freedom by dressing in clothes that bring them extra attention from men does NOT help decrease rape. Ingraining the idea into women that they are "untouchable" will not decrease rape.
[edit on 15/2/2010 by Dark Ghost]