Could Neanderthals live again?, page 1
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reply posted on 14-2-2010 @ 01:56 PM by UberL33t
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That poor being would wake up to an alien world of technology and chaos.


Not necessarily, it would be born as is any life form, whether cloned or not. The world wouldn't be alien because it wouldn't be born with memories of what it was or when it was for that matter. It would be nurtured by a being more advanced. There in lies the callousness. Because it would be raised in a scientific environment constantly subjected to tests to determine it's intelligence, strength, cognition, etc.

I think this being would recognize that it was different than it's "nurturers" however. The worrisome part, is after their findings, what would become of the subject? ...and based on those findings would they try to create a small population of them. More so, their plans for this population. Military use and personal slaves are the first thing that comes to mind.


reply posted on 14-2-2010 @ 02:04 PM by Solomons
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Exactly, and considering while there are differences between us the amount of similarities is vastly greater. I think such a woman would not find it very hard to integrate into our society. Ie i think the positives of bringing back a neanderthal far outweigh the negatives.


reply posted on 14-2-2010 @ 02:22 PM by Kandinsky
No they couldn't. We're theoretically able to bring mammoths back, but it'd require a female elephant to gestate the critter. Half-mammoth ain't mammoth. Same goes for Neanderthals.

Check out the Iberian Ibex for where we are at right now. They're extinct. We used the DNA from a frozen sample to clone one. Ibex is cloned.

Cute as a button.

Sadly, the newborn ibex kid died shortly after birth due to physical defects in its lungs. Other cloned animals, including sheep, have been born with similar lung defects. But the breakthrough has raised hopes that it will be possible to save endangered and newly extinct species by resurrecting them from frozen tissue. It has also increased the possibility that it will one day be possible to reproduce long-dead species such as woolly mammoths and even dinosaurs
As above

Attempts have been made to clone other animals from dead ones. The problems with lung tissue has led to all dying in infancy from complications. Maybe in the future it'll be a possibility? Having an adult female carry the cloned Neanderthal would be a huge obstacle at the Medical Ethics Board


reply posted on 14-2-2010 @ 02:27 PM by hotbakedtater
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Their giant heads wouldnt fit out our normal place, so c section would have to happen.

And there is no reason why a female couldnt gestate a neandethal baby, they are both human.

I would think science would have created an artificial womb by now, due to the vast interest in cloning.


reply posted on 14-2-2010 @ 02:30 PM by hotbakedtater
Well, this article is eight yrs old. I wonder if they have one functional yet?

Artificial Wombs

"Doctors are developing artificial wombs in which embryos can grow outside a woman's body. The work has been hailed as a breakthrough in treating the childless.

Scientists have created prototypes made out of cells extracted from women's bodies. Embryos successfully attached themselves to the walls of these laboratory wombs and began to grow. However, experiments had to be terminated after a few days to comply with in-vitro fertilisation (IVF) regulations. "

This is definately one way neanderthals could be cloned.


reply posted on 14-2-2010 @ 02:34 PM by UberL33t
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The problems with lung tissue has led to all dying in infancy from complications.


Curious that it's seemingly always a lung issue. Wonder what that is?


reply posted on 14-2-2010 @ 02:39 PM by Kandinsky
Originally posted by hotbakedtater
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Their giant heads wouldnt fit out our normal place, so c section would have to happen.

And there is no reason why a female couldnt gestate a neandethal baby, they are both human.

I would think science would have created an artificial womb by now, due to the vast interest in cloning.


Their heads were within the same parameters as ours. What's a 'normal place?' Is it a Bajinga? (Scrubs)

I doubt the ethics commission of any reputable medical council would approve of Neanderthal births.


reply posted on 14-2-2010 @ 02:46 PM by Kandinsky
Originally posted by UberL33t
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The problems with lung tissue has led to all dying in infancy from complications.


Curious that it's seemingly always a lung issue. Wonder what that is?


Who knows? Likely the science is still young. Other than that I won't hazard a guess...way out of my league.



reply posted on 14-2-2010 @ 03:01 PM by Ikema
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Nope, you would need like 30,000 of them to take root and not die off.


reply posted on 14-2-2010 @ 03:19 PM by halfoldman
reply to post by UberL33t

I'm sure it already exists somewhere. The results of previous Soviet experiments with "manpanzees" (half ape and human hybrids) are still somewhat mysterious, and nowadays secret technology is vastly ahead of what we are shown.
I believe they could get a reserve in the Alps, sell curios to tourists and keep the cave-fires burning with some vodka.
That would be the "classic" Neanderthal, there are skulls from the Mid-East that are closer to Homo Sapiens.
Of course we view Neanderthal through politically correct lenses - maybe they had a gene that didn't make them very nice to be around. Apparently they were physically much stronger than us.



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