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Who Really Was King Solomon?

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posted on May, 29 2004 @ 12:13 PM
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I've always heard of him to be a fair and just king. And that he was looked on fondly by "Yahweh"(or whatever name is right for you). But I was recently reading some articles I came across, and found the following:

groups.yahoo.com...

Which seems to paint the wise king in a different light. Just wondering if anyone can confirm or deny these allegations, or if anyone has any further comments in relation to this. Thanks!


TS




posted on May, 29 2004 @ 12:18 PM
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Also, notice the image that is on that page, does anyone have any more information on what this is? I'd like to look into it further.


Going to try to put the image on here, don't know if it will work:

psorcereezee.future.easyspace.com... " target='_blank' class='tabOff'/>



TS



posted on May, 29 2004 @ 01:10 PM
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it's been said that the so-called "star of david" is not even associated with king david at all, and that it was nothing more than a satanic symbol, and ever since i heard of that, i've gotten to thinking...there are are six lines that are present in the star; one six. there are also six points; another six. plus, some also outline a hexagram along the outside of the star; hence, another six...666? just some food for thought...



posted on May, 29 2004 @ 02:13 PM
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Thanks, excellent response.

Yeah I've read up on the "Star of David" not being original to the Jewish faith. I believe a book was written on the subject, as I had read of the motivation for it's writing. Interesting to note that he was Jewish, and totally believed the SOD was Jewish in origin, until his college roomate challenged him to prove it. Upon researching it it did turn out to be satanic in nature(as far back as he could reliably trace it).

Anyway yeah I've got to agree with that. Really regarding the picture above, I was hoping someone would know what that photo in particular depicts. Yes, it's a Star of David, but if it's a common symbol, what's it referred to as, if anyone knows. Just so I can dig around to it's creation and significance etc.


Thanks again!

TS



posted on May, 29 2004 @ 03:27 PM
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This two links are about king solomon, the first one is about his reign and the second one discredit his reality.

Textwww.aish.com...

www.sidneywoolf.com...



posted on May, 29 2004 @ 05:19 PM
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Very objective of you I must say!
I'll be looking at both sites and see what it's all about. Any thoughts on this matter personally?


TS



posted on May, 29 2004 @ 05:41 PM
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Well I always believe that king solomon has a lots of gold and womens and that something was going on with him and the queen of shiba. I thing is was mostly myth. But a lot of peoples later, did try to find his famous gold mines. I kind of remember the movies about it I guess I mess up the image of him with movies. I also thought that he lived in africa. This is the mythical story of him. But then yes I know he was king David son and a very good king and that he built a tempo, but this is the bible version of it. Sorry the first link stop working after I pasted I appologize for that.



posted on May, 30 2004 @ 03:43 AM
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Solomon is often associated with the two books Keys of Solomon and Lesser Keys of Solomon. However, the these books surfaced in the dark ages, and are basically reflecting a form of demonology. I would liken them with parts of the so called Enochian tradition. Keys to Hell.



posted on May, 30 2004 @ 08:20 AM
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I never knew until now the link of Solomon and magic, I always believe it was just myth. Here is a link to a book on this subject.
www.sacred-texts.com...
You can read the book online. I think I will like to reasearch more into this.


[Edited on 30-5-2004 by marg6043]



posted on May, 30 2004 @ 12:51 PM
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I think that may be a varation of the Seal of Solomon. Used in ritual magick.



posted on May, 30 2004 @ 02:15 PM
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what kind of magik did he practice and how come the bible does not mention this.



posted on May, 30 2004 @ 04:00 PM
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Great info everybody. This is something that really interests me, although I don't know why. I think he may have practiced Kaballah magik, and am following that up. Also trying to dig up what variation of the "Star of Solomon" the above picture could be, and what implications that has exactly. Strange stuff, appreciate all of your interest!

TS



posted on May, 30 2004 @ 06:01 PM
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Originally posted by TheSeeker
Also, notice the image that is on that page, does anyone have any more information on what this is? I'd like to look into it further.


If you plan to invoke spirits, I would advise you to think about it really carefully before you go ahead. There are many things you should learn to do before you open a gateway to Hell. Opening up a gate to Hell may not be the most difficult task, but closing it might become more difficult.



posted on May, 30 2004 @ 06:06 PM
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The Star of David was a relative newcomer as a symbol of the Jewish faith. It wasn't actually used until the Middle Ages.

The Star represents the 6 directions of space, the divine union between male and female and the 4 elements of Earth, Wind and Fire.

www.menorah.org...

As for King Solomon? Well there isn't actually any evidence that he existed. All we've got to go on is what's in the Bible and other scripture.

articles.findarticles.com...

Like much of the Bible, I take his story to be a metaphor - how a man has to work hard to unite with God.



[Edited on 30-5-2004 by Leveller]



posted on May, 30 2004 @ 07:34 PM
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The Star of David is the planet the Romans later called Saturn. It's thirty year cycle draws a hexagonal pattern in the Mazzaroth. It's an ancient symbol. It has many meanings. But basically it is the cyce of "Saturn" or the Star of David.



posted on May, 30 2004 @ 07:44 PM
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Lessee...

Yes, the symbol there is something from High Magick and is called the "Seal of Solomon." It's not authentic, however.

The info on the page is correct -- there are a number of different bodies of stories about Solomon (sort of like the various myths and legends about King Arthur or Robin Hood.)

According to the Bible, he was a Jewish king, reknowned for his wisdom and intelligence and knowledge. He did have 700 or so concubines and 300 or so Official Wives. They don't say how he managed to work them all into his busy schedule. He is credited with building a lot of temples for the Jews.

He also got into trouble with Yahweh because he agreed to let his wives worship their own gods rather than forcing their conversion and he did build temples for them (I don't know of any archaeology on this, however.)

Because of his great knowledge, the other people in the area believed he must also be a great magician (remember than the sorcerers/workers of magic were originally priests and that they were about the only literate ones in the population.) A group of tales arose about him and about a "great seal" that he created. They show up in a number of places in Arabic (not Moslem... Arabic) legends where his seal/sigil is used to command djinn (genies.)

Because of the cachet of his name, a lot of books showed up, purporting to be copies of his wisdom (Camelopardus points out some.)



posted on May, 30 2004 @ 10:34 PM
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Originally posted by Camelopárdalis

Originally posted by TheSeeker
Also, notice the image that is on that page, does anyone have any more information on what this is? I'd like to look into it further.


If you plan to invoke spirits, I would advise you to think about it really carefully before you go ahead. There are many things you should learn to do before you open a gateway to Hell. Opening up a gate to Hell may not be the most difficult task, but closing it might become more difficult.



Just speaking for myself personally, I can assure you I have no plans to dabble with spirit invocation or the like. To be honest with you, I can't say that I believe in a "gateway to hell" but I'll admit that is due to my lack of both experience with the subject matter, as well as no first hand accounts of such things. But I'm always ready to listen to another's experiences and make a decision from them. I thank you for your words of advice and concern, they've been noted. If you'd like to add more information related to such things, please do, I'm sure others as well as myself would like to hear such a perspective.


TS



posted on May, 30 2004 @ 10:45 PM
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Originally posted by Leveller
The Star of David was a relative newcomer as a symbol of the Jewish faith. It wasn't actually used until the Middle Ages.

The Star represents the 6 directions of space, the divine union between male and female and the 4 elements of Earth, Wind and Fire.

www.menorah.org...

As for King Solomon? Well there isn't actually any evidence that he existed. All we've got to go on is what's in the Bible and other scripture.

articles.findarticles.com...

Like much of the Bible, I take his story to be a metaphor - how a man has to work hard to unite with God.



[Edited on 30-5-2004 by Leveller]



Thanks for that Leveller, glad to hear from you on this topic as well! I am *very* interested in the actual origins of the Star of David, and have been looking into that at the same time as following this up.

I love that you make the point that we are unsure that he existed at all. As I totally agree with that statement. However, for this research, I'm forced to assume he did, and see if there are any other less mainstream accounts of him. Ones that are reliable, if that's possible at all.


Glad you point out the metaphorical aspect to all this, which I do acknowledge and consider when researching. It seems though that there may be outside implications that he was in fact real, although I can't say the same for his story. Very insightful of you though.


TS



posted on May, 30 2004 @ 10:51 PM
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Originally posted by Camelopárdalis
The Star of David is the planet the Romans later called Saturn. It's thirty year cycle draws a hexagonal pattern in the Mazzaroth. It's an ancient symbol. It has many meanings. But basically it is the cyce of "Saturn" or the Star of David.



Interesting, do you have any link that shows this in more detail by chance? Anything else that would explain any other parties who held this in significance, and why? As stated above the origins and motives to the S of D are of much interest to me. Thanks for another provoking reply!

TS



posted on May, 30 2004 @ 11:10 PM
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Originally posted by Byrd
Lessee...

Yes, the symbol there is something from High Magick and is called the "Seal of Solomon." It's not authentic, however.

The info on the page is correct -- there are a number of different bodies of stories about Solomon (sort of like the various myths and legends about King Arthur or Robin Hood.)

According to the Bible, he was a Jewish king, reknowned for his wisdom and intelligence and knowledge. He did have 700 or so concubines and 300 or so Official Wives. They don't say how he managed to work them all into his busy schedule. He is credited with building a lot of temples for the Jews.

He also got into trouble with Yahweh because he agreed to let his wives worship their own gods rather than forcing their conversion and he did build temples for them (I don't know of any archaeology on this, however.)

Because of his great knowledge, the other people in the area believed he must also be a great magician (remember than the sorcerers/workers of magic were originally priests and that they were about the only literate ones in the population.) A group of tales arose about him and about a "great seal" that he created. They show up in a number of places in Arabic (not Moslem... Arabic) legends where his seal/sigil is used to command djinn (genies.)

Because of the cachet of his name, a lot of books showed up, purporting to be copies of his wisdom (Camelopardus points out some.)





I really appreciate your comments, further down the rabbit hole it goes it would seem.
Taking into account your, very detailed response, what is your opinion on the matter? I mean I follow your explanation of the biblical side of things, and can certainly understand that a fairly well educated(in his time) individual would be looked upon with awe and fear from the "masses".

The legends of the djinn, which seem to be portrayed as a rather wrathful and rowdy bunch of "Genie" type creatures, if I remember correctly, is also rather interesting. I'd never before drawn the inference of his alleged involvement. Furthermore, I had no idea that djinn were also prevalent in Jewish culture and mythology (note that I'm no expert to be sure), I had alway thought of them to be more of an Egyptian folklore. Might this allude to some form of involvement on his part in a "Mystery Religion"or the like, either covertly or overtly I wonder? Actually that leads into my next line of thinking.

These tales that arose of him, could this in some way be more than just second hand accounts? Maybe he was a part of some other group or whatnot, and that's where some of this originated from? Any thoughts on that anyone?

I'll be the first to point out that the above is pure speculation, but I find it fascinating to ponder nonetheless. Thanks again to all who contribute!



TS



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