Is it just me or more evidence is coming out a lot more lately? It seems like every week, another story, another point of view, new images, new people
coming onto the scene, and protesting the Official Story.
I applaud Russia today for being constant with regards to 9/11 victims and family members being able to voice their opinion of their view of the
official story which most of them do not buy at all. These are the same people that started the truther movement along with the first responders,
NYPD, and FDNY.
I still can’t believe some of these trusters still think that the truth movement was started by conspiracy theorists, it wasn’t! It was the family
members of the victims/survivors who started the movement.
To me it seems like the momentum is accelerating faster than it was before. Just take a look at the poll below.
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New 9/11 photos 'prove WTC exploded from inside.' Video: Russia Today, page 1
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Topic started on 14-2-2010 @ 10:52 AM by ugie1028
Images:
I know these images were posted a few days ago, but I thought id add Russia todays coverage because they seem to take this issue more seriously than the MSM.
I have included recent threads from last week below. if i missed any, just add them to the thread. Thanks!
Recent related threads:
9/11 Occam's Razor
Bob Kerrey (911 comm) admits 911 was Pre-Planned
PROOF that Building 7 was demolished with explosives!!!
Absolute proof: A Pentagon picture montage from start to finish
EDIT: broken linky & changed title a little... Added another Thread link.
[edit on 2/14/2010 by ugie1028]
New 9/11 photos 'prove WTC exploded from inside.' Video: Russia Today
Images:
I know these images were posted a few days ago, but I thought id add Russia todays coverage because they seem to take this issue more seriously than the MSM.
I have included recent threads from last week below. if i missed any, just add them to the thread. Thanks!
Recent related threads:
9/11 Occam's Razor
Bob Kerrey (911 comm) admits 911 was Pre-Planned
PROOF that Building 7 was demolished with explosives!!!
Absolute proof: A Pentagon picture montage from start to finish
EDIT: broken linky & changed title a little... Added another Thread link.
[edit on 2/14/2010 by ugie1028]
reply posted on 14-2-2010 @ 11:45 AM by Pilgrum
These pictures were discussed here about a couple of years back. It's pretty obvious that they do not resolve anything for anybody but the better
resolution is a step in the right direction.
old thread
[edit on 14/2/2010 by Pilgrum]
old thread
[edit on 14/2/2010 by Pilgrum]
reply posted on 14-2-2010 @ 11:49 AM by ugie1028
reply to post by Pilgrum
Exactly! There may be nothing new, but the more information that is released, images, testimonies from witnesses, or anything regarding this day, is always a good step in the right direction.
What the point of the thread was that more and more and more information is released daily pushing the OS into a corner. Eventually its going to cause a chain reaction that ends the official fairytale once and for all!
Exactly! There may be nothing new, but the more information that is released, images, testimonies from witnesses, or anything regarding this day, is always a good step in the right direction.
What the point of the thread was that more and more and more information is released daily pushing the OS into a corner. Eventually its going to cause a chain reaction that ends the official fairytale once and for all!
reply posted on 14-2-2010 @ 07:13 PM by Whyhi
reply to post by ugie1028
Russia Today is a horrible source...That guy sounds like he is just reading off an ATS post.
Lolwut? Controlled demolitions collapse, they just don't explode like a giant bomb in the air...
Outright lie number one.
Paint chips.
Lie number #2
A building has never been hit by a fully fueled and loaded 747 either. With that logic, a 747 hitting a building being a first, as it never happened before, the plane couldn't have hit the building?
Fail truther on Russia Today is fail.
Conspiracy theorists - A hypothesis alleging that the members of a coordinated group are, and/or were, secretly working together to commit illegal or wrongful actions ...
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/conspiracy_theory
Those people were questioning the official story,as told by the Government and officials, and believed coordinated group are, and/or were, secretly working together to commit illegal or wrongful actions .... Conspiracy theorists are conspiracy theorists, it doesn't matter if you change your silly titles around.
Russia Today is a horrible source...That guy sounds like he is just reading off an ATS post.
What we see is exploding buildings, not collapsing
Lolwut? Controlled demolitions collapse, they just don't explode like a giant bomb in the air...
"The US government still has yet to what initiated these collapses"
Outright lie number one.
As well as the forensic evidence, which has found explosives in the debris as well as chemical signatures of such a type of reaction
Paint chips.
Building came down at free fall speed
Lie number #2
A building has never been a building that collapsed from a plane hitting it, ever
A building has never been hit by a fully fueled and loaded 747 either. With that logic, a 747 hitting a building being a first, as it never happened before, the plane couldn't have hit the building?
Fail truther on Russia Today is fail.
I still can’t believe some of these trusters still think that the truth movement was started by conspiracy theorist
Conspiracy theorists - A hypothesis alleging that the members of a coordinated group are, and/or were, secretly working together to commit illegal or wrongful actions ...
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/conspiracy_theory
Those people were questioning the official story,as told by the Government and officials, and believed coordinated group are, and/or were, secretly working together to commit illegal or wrongful actions .... Conspiracy theorists are conspiracy theorists, it doesn't matter if you change your silly titles around.
reply posted on 14-2-2010 @ 07:44 PM by ugie1028
reply to post by Whyhi
so.. the survivors, and victims are conspiracy theorists because they haven't had their questions fully answered? really?
so.. the survivors, and victims are conspiracy theorists because they haven't had their questions fully answered? really?
reply posted on 14-2-2010 @ 07:48 PM by Whyhi
reply to post by ugie1028
Are you trying to play the sympathy card when you're talking about whether or not the questions of those who lost family on that day are justified for asking if thermite / bombs / missiles / space lazers brought down the tower?
Emotional ties does mean you can reject evidence and or make up your own and run with it.
And yes, if that's what they are suggesting, then they are a conspiracy theorist, regardless of someones opinion of conspiracy theorists.
If I was a janitor at the white house and I come out and say I saw Obama turn into a giant reptile and eat my family, and my family also turns up dead somewhere else, despite the massive amount of evidence to the contrary, it still makes me a conspiracy theorist as much as someone else saying it that doesn't have family ties in the matter.
[edit on 14-2-2010 by Whyhi]
Are you trying to play the sympathy card when you're talking about whether or not the questions of those who lost family on that day are justified for asking if thermite / bombs / missiles / space lazers brought down the tower?
Emotional ties does mean you can reject evidence and or make up your own and run with it.
And yes, if that's what they are suggesting, then they are a conspiracy theorist, regardless of someones opinion of conspiracy theorists.
If I was a janitor at the white house and I come out and say I saw Obama turn into a giant reptile and eat my family, and my family also turns up dead somewhere else, despite the massive amount of evidence to the contrary, it still makes me a conspiracy theorist as much as someone else saying it that doesn't have family ties in the matter.
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reply posted on 14-2-2010 @ 07:54 PM by ugie1028
reply to post by Whyhi
Well if a thorough investigation was actually conducted then we wouldn't be on this board, now would we?
They didn't. the white wash report, and the false nist report didn't help either, all it did was drive more theories into the open...
as i said, if they had done their job, there wouldn't be a conspiracy. If the family members of the dead had gotten their wish of having a fully transparent investigation, we wouldn't be still asking these questions.
Well if a thorough investigation was actually conducted then we wouldn't be on this board, now would we?
They didn't. the white wash report, and the false nist report didn't help either, all it did was drive more theories into the open...
as i said, if they had done their job, there wouldn't be a conspiracy. If the family members of the dead had gotten their wish of having a fully transparent investigation, we wouldn't be still asking these questions.
reply posted on 14-2-2010 @ 08:06 PM by Whyhi
reply to post by ugie1028
The numerous investigations did their job, you're still asking questions. The thorough investigation was conducted, you're still asking questions.
Don't try and blame them for your need of conspiracy theories.
So who is going to run this new investigation, if it did happen? The government? They would conclude the same as any legitimate investigation would, and you would say they're just in on it. Any truthers wouldn't want actual experts to be involved, and conclude it was an inside job regardless of any actual investigating, unless their findings were peer-reviewed, but the peer-review process would be in on it.
There isn't going to be a new investigation, you people are not going to stop asking questions until you change the way you view information.
The numerous investigations did their job, you're still asking questions. The thorough investigation was conducted, you're still asking questions.
Don't try and blame them for your need of conspiracy theories.
So who is going to run this new investigation, if it did happen? The government? They would conclude the same as any legitimate investigation would, and you would say they're just in on it. Any truthers wouldn't want actual experts to be involved, and conclude it was an inside job regardless of any actual investigating, unless their findings were peer-reviewed, but the peer-review process would be in on it.
There isn't going to be a new investigation, you people are not going to stop asking questions until you change the way you view information.
reply posted on 14-2-2010 @ 08:09 PM by ugie1028
reply to post by Whyhi
you seem pretty positive that if a new investigation was conducted, that it wouldn't prove anything, then why not support it and lay this all to rest then?
what are you afraid of? the conspiracy being true?
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you seem pretty positive that if a new investigation was conducted, that it wouldn't prove anything, then why not support it and lay this all to rest then?
what are you afraid of? the conspiracy being true?
[edit on 2/14/2010 by ugie1028]
reply posted on 14-2-2010 @ 08:25 PM by ExPostFacto
reply to post by argentus
You can find the scientific report published at the following link.
h ttp://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/00000002/00000001/7TOCPJ.SGM
[edit on 14-2-2010 by ExPostFacto]
You can find the scientific report published at the following link.
h ttp://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/00000002/00000001/7TOCPJ.SGM
[edit on 14-2-2010 by ExPostFacto]
reply posted on 14-2-2010 @ 08:30 PM by Whyhi
reply to post by ugie1028
If truthers pay legitimate experts for a new investigation, I don't really care. If you want to waste money on a new investigation, I really wouldn't care either because there is no evidence, old or new, but it would be a pretty good laugh seeing all the truthers just ignore another investigation, that they ordered.
There is no reason for an investigation because there is no evidence, simple as that
If truthers pay legitimate experts for a new investigation, I don't really care. If you want to waste money on a new investigation, I really wouldn't care either because there is no evidence, old or new, but it would be a pretty good laugh seeing all the truthers just ignore another investigation, that they ordered.
There is no reason for an investigation because there is no evidence, simple as that
reply posted on 14-2-2010 @ 08:30 PM by argentus
reply to post by ExPostFacto
Very much appreciated ExPostFacto. I'll review that link. I [once] had a degree in Chemistry, minor Physics & Math. It was a long time ago, that's why I say [once]. That's the kind of information I can really sink my teeth into.
thanks again
Very much appreciated ExPostFacto. I'll review that link. I [once] had a degree in Chemistry, minor Physics & Math. It was a long time ago, that's why I say [once]. That's the kind of information I can really sink my teeth into.
thanks again
reply posted on 14-2-2010 @ 08:31 PM by dereks
Originally posted by ExPostFacto
reply to post by argentus
You can find the scientific report published at the following link.
www.bentham-open.org.../2009/00000002/00000001/7TOCPJ.SGM
Except that they will publish anything, and there was no peer review
They are just a vanity publisher
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