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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Wow. 14 pages in 24 hours. Good job!
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
I agree with your first post 100%. I haven't read the whole thread, but my position is that this is a form of "thought police". The fact that these thoughts are put on paper does not constitute a crime and this tendency to use emotion (instead of logic) to punish people for doing something that doesn't have a victim is dangerous, in my opinion.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
I am a victim of childhood sexual molestation. I wish my abusers had looked at cartoons to get their jollies.
Now I'll go read what some have to say.
Of course you won't debate your opinion ... yet you are here you are shoving your opinion down everyones' throat, how thoughtful.
Of course the only thing I have seen from you is insults, irrational accusations, and disillusioned opinions.
Originally posted by Phre0nBurn
Sorry, but this is just ridiculous.
What if the 'children' in the drawings were supposed to depict 15 year olds?
Is that 'an abomination'? If you say yes, what about if it is in another country that allows sex at that age?
Or, are you just going to say "Well they have it WRONG! Because I don't agree with that!"
But... Why? WHY don't you agree?
Because it's wrong?
Or because you're told it's wrong?
Everything is relative.
I add my resounding NO. And accept that free speech as an ideology is something we have to give up in certain circumstances. Like circumstances related to child porn. I can live with that. Because this issue is not really about freedom of speech. IMHO it is about stating what we as a society, will or will not tolerate. The law enacted says as much. The law this man broke. The law this man broke and pleaded guilty too. The Guilty plea relating to seven books.
Originally posted by silo13
reply to post by Silicis n Volvo
what you mean is you have no logic to your thinking and no basis behind your opinion...you dont know why you think what you think.
and because your losing the argument the only thing you can think to say is in basic terms.......
your wrong because i say so....end of story
its called dismissive arguing.
you cant prove your point so you assertively brush asside anybody else rational theories and close the argument down by saying im just right because i know i am.
useless in a real debate
Oh bother. Here we go again, someone who can't read.
I posted on page one I will not debate my stand on this issue.
The OP asked for opinions, I gave mine. Period.
And for you to state that I don't know why I think what I think or have logic behind it?
'Get outta my head get outta my head.' LOL
Facts are you have no idea why I think what I do much less the logic behind it because I haven't told you.
And why not? Because frankly, it's none of your business.
So go bark up another tree or better yet prove to us you can read my mind like you seem to think you can. I'm thinking of a number between looser and 0.
So it's been established there is nothing you can say, no mud you can sling or insult you can hurl, no faulty logic you can try to coax me out with that will cause me to change my mind or debate you. Punto.
That's why I don't debate it and that's why you shouldn't bother either. You're wasting your time trying to win a one sided argument.
And just in case you missed the other part of my first post, the one where I said I wouldn't debate this issue?
In my opinion people who condone the viewing of children as sexual objects, to be used for sexual gratification - IN ANY FORM - are as guilty as pedophiles themselves.
peace
[edit on 15-2-2010 by silo13]
LOL Quit acting the victim. You don't like what I have to say no one's forcing you to read my posts. *click*
Awww you haven't been looking too hard then have you?
You spend so much time with those wittle pewsonal attacks ob yours and dis-railing the thread with off topic posts you're missing the best parts!
If you or anyone else thinks a pedophile is going to stop at cartoon porn?
You're wrong.
What do all addicts have in common whether they are addicts of drugs, sex, overeating, etc?
They always want MORE. Need more. Have to have more.
It starts out small, then progresses until the addict is unable to reach the stimulation levels they seek with usual doses of whatever it is they're addicted to be it drugs, porn, smoke, whatever.
To achieve the same level of stimulation or high, you need more, it's always more.
So if you really think these perverts are going to stop at cartoon depictions of children being raped and abused, you are most sorely wrong.
Originally posted by silo13
If you or anyone else thinks a pedophile is going to stop at cartoon porn? You're wrong.
In my opinion people who condone the viewing of children as sexual objects, to be used for sexual gratification - IN ANY FORM - are as guilty as pedophiles themselves.
And if you think these pedophiles are going to be satisfied with cartoons forever?
Cartoon porn will only delay the inevitable.
Originally posted by silo13
reply to post by Nurv47
Of course you won't debate your opinion ... yet you are here you are shoving your opinion down everyones' throat, how thoughtful.
LOL Quit acting the victim. You don't like what I have to say no one's forcing you to read my posts. *click*
Of course the only thing I have seen from you is insults, irrational accusations, and disillusioned opinions.
Awww you haven't been looking too hard then have you?
You spend so much time with those wittle pewsonal attacks ob yours and dis-railing the thread with off topic posts you're missing the best parts!
Here, I'll put it in a post just for you so you can't miss it this time hun.
If you or anyone else thinks a pedophile is going to stop at cartoon porn? You're wrong.
What do all addicts have in common whether they are addicts of drugs, sex, overeating, etc?
They always want MORE. Need more. Have to have more.
It starts out small, then progresses until the addict is unable to reach the stimulation levels they seek with usual doses of whatever it is they're addicted to be it drugs, porn, smoke, whatever.
To achieve the same level of stimulation or high, you need more, it's always more.
So if you really think these perverts are going to stop at cartoon depictions of children being raped and abused, you are most sorely wrong.
peace
Originally posted by silo13
Facts are you have no idea why I think what I do much less the logic behind it because I haven't told you.