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reply posted on 29-5-2004 @ 10:48 AM by TheBandit795
The Last clip is impressive!!! It stops and stays in one place twice. Then get's brighter. 7.2mb .mov download

Edit:Link working now, download and watch!!!



[Edited on 29-5-2004 by TheBandit795]



reply posted on 29-5-2004 @ 01:31 PM by acidhead
Originally posted by Muaddib
Originally posted by Quest
If there is only video evidence they could be damn near anything.

Camera defects, alien craft, ice particles, defects in the glass...

I'm sure people will have some great GUESSES though or wild unfounded conclusions.

Oh! how about microasteroids or space junk close to the window/camera?

[Edited on 29-5-2004 by Quest]


Riiiight....so now microasteroids, or space junk can change direction and extreme speed in seconds?

I have seen that video before and its not a deffect, chuncks of ice, venus dancing to Michael jackson...... or any other natural cause.

I believe that video captured what has been mentioned in many cultures about battles in the heavens, between Gods, demons and angels.

Any advanced technology can be seen as magic or power from the Gods/angels/demons by much less technologically advanced people.


if that is the case , then why is there a flash ? the flash is close to the camera or there wouldnt be a flash , the fact that everything moves in time with the flash shows that its close to the shuttle and not miles off over the earth.

shuttles have small thrusters to keep them in orbit , every so often they fire to stabalise the orientation - the cam prob caught this and amazingly it caught small bits of frozen bits or dust floating around just outside the window being moved by the thrust

also the fact that everyone keeps going on about the speed that the "alien" ice particle shoots off , what about the speed of the "missile" ice particle ? that missile looks like its leaving the earths atmosphere at about 200 000 mph ,

sorry i dont think so , missiles are fast but they are rocket propelled , unless to fit in with your alien invasion we have decided to create a brand new propulsion system that goes faster than anything we know of



reply posted on 29-5-2004 @ 02:56 PM by TheBandit795
Does anyone have any comment on that big 7.2mb video I posted earlier??? The object travels across the screen and then it stops abrubtly. That would be strange behaviour for debris or any other particles... After that it moves again, and stop for the second time. Then it become brighter, and seems to dissapear behind the Earth at the end.


And here are some scientific analyses from the first link that I posted (about sts-48.

Examination of Object Trajectories in the STS-48 "UFO" Video

A frame overlay method previously applied by Carlotto to the STS-48 video frames revealed that some of the unidentified objects followed curved trajectories, indicating that they experienced prolonged periods of acceleration that cannot be attributed to the relatively brief firing of a shuttle thruster rocket acting on nearby debris particles. The same method was reapplied to the video but over considerably longer periods of elapsed video time than those originally covered by Carlotto. It was found that two of the objects changed their courses from initially linear trajectories to highly curved trajectories. This and other details revealed by the longer time span overlays tend to rule out explanations for the path curvature that would be consistent with the shuttle debris interpretation. Rather, the newly-revealed aspects of the objectsí trajectories strongly support Carlottoís interpretation: that the path curvatures are evidence that some of the objects are large, self-propelled, and closer to the Earthís horizon than to the space shuttle.



Digital Video Analysis of Anomalous Space Objects - The STS-48 Video (PDF)
Mark J. Carlotto, Journal of Scientific Exploration, Vol. 9, No. 1, 1995
(.Pdf file!!! Right click and save if your connection is slow).

Scientific analysis of the STS-48 Space Shuttle video showing multiple objects moving in unusual trajectories in space. The video was captured by a camera aboard the Space Shuttle Discovery (mission STS-48) on 15 September 1991. Digital video analysis is performed to determine if the objects in question are ice particles disturbed by a thruster firing as contended by NASA or other objects moving independently of the shuttle.


Proof of the Prosaic Nature of the STS-48 Zig-Zag Video (Skeptical)
James Oberg


The attached two charts provide convincing proof that the famous zig-zag dots of the STS-48 shuttle flight (September 1991) are exactly what space experts inside and outside NASA have always said they were: routine nearby small sunlit debris hit by the expanding exhaust of a shuttle steering rocket triggered randomly by the computer autopilot which was steering the spaceship.


Response to NASA's James Oberg's Analysis of STS-48 Video
Michael Bara, Lunar Anomalies Homepage


Several years ago, NASA employee James Oberg apparently wrote via E-mail an extensive rebuttal of Richard C. Hoagland's analysis of the STS-48 video. This rebuttal has made the rounds of various web sites and newsgroups, and has been used as an example of the supposedly "faulty" nature of Hoagland's research. As near as I can tell, this rebuttal has gone completely unchallenged. After a quick perusal of Oberg's letter, I felt it was drastically flawed on several points. The following is my response to Oberg's rebuttal.

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