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Originally posted by daisyglaze
Originally posted by Dachende
I've lived in new zealand for 30 years.
It has always been s/e of Australia. I even remember being a child @ a beach on the west coast, and my parents telling me if I had a boat I could sail to australia, that way.
Nothign to see here folks, move along.
*sigh* No one is debating whether or not it was there when you were a child. We're trying to figure out why - barring faulty memory - some of us have a shared recollection of a world that apparently doesn't exist. Get it?
Originally posted by Lannock
When I started reading this thread I decided to check a map for myself. When I noticed that Australia has "moved" from way out East to under PNG I went "WTF!" I even asked some of my colleagues. Some agreed with me and some disagreed.
I have come to the following conclusion: bad education and/or incorrect reading of maps.Here's why I think this:
1. Pretty much all of the people who say NZ was on the NW seem to be from the USA, i.e. incorrectly printed textbooks and or maps distributed to USA schools and nowhere else.
2. I "remember" Australia being much further East and definitely NOT under and so close to PNG, but I still "remember" NZ being SE of Aus. I remember seeing maps where certain islands are moved to other areas in boxes for I presume space reasons.
3. I have not read the last 50 or so pages of this thread but up until page 13 not a single person has claimed that the flight from Aus to PNG took 10% of the time it used to take and not a single person claimed they used to fly East to go to Aus from NZ.
4. Initially I thought that certain people incl myself were somehow shifted to another parallel universe (bear with me ), but it is geographically impossible for NZ to be on the NW of Aus if you look at continental drift, i.e. no matter how many parallel universes there are they should still obey the natural laws.
I am very open-minded but from the evidence I have seen this thread is not an indication of parallel universe jumping as in point #4 above, but just a case of bad maps and bad education.edit on 4-4-2011 by Lannock because: Typo and an addition to point # 4.
Originally posted by Essan
How many people from Australia or NZ have been subject to this 'shift'? How many from other countries? It seem to be only Americans (and a few Britons who oddly have not noticed other aspects of the 'shift' such as England being closer/further from France etc etc) - which I find highly suspicious.
And given no-one has any memory of different history, geology, climate or biology relation to NZ being positioned differently, it seems even more odd.
But then, I said all that months ago
Originally posted by keldas
I am from the UK not the USA and I lived as a child in Australia. When we returned back to the UK after a year we came back by ship and sailed up the North East Coast of Australia to near the top right of Australia to where New Zealand used to be, so it has nothing to do with looking at incorrect maps.
The whole point of a parallel universe is that whilst many things remain the same others a different. As parallel universes are still considered to be a theory who can say with any certainty the rules that govern a parallel universe and what it would be like.
Originally posted by Brad-H
Uhhhh...since when has NZ been to the north-west of Australia??!?!
Originally posted by LannockUnfortunately there is no evidence of that yet other than the testimony of people who could very well have just read maps wrong.
Originally posted by keldas
reply to post by Lannock
Although some remember the placement of New Zealand as being on the west side of Australia I and a few others have a memory of it being to the north east near the top of Australia.
Originally posted by drunkennoodle
I first read this thread what feels like eons ago, but now that I finally registered, I can respond and say that I was totally surprised to find out NZ is in the "wrong" place. It was always NW of Australia in my mind. I am sure it was just one of those things I didn't know I didn't know and was just never taught it properly or learned it for myself, but count me as another one who thinks it's in the wrong place.