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reply posted on 13-2-2010 @ 12:09 PM by ker2010
Originally posted by unityemissions
I went to school up until April of 2000. I can honestly say that most of the nonsense was after this date. I think 9/11 was the turning point for America on many fronts. When I was in school people went to school stoned, drunk, even on LSD without much thought from the teachers. As long as the students could handle it, this wasn't an issue. There were many times when I recall doing things like just walking out of class because I knew I could, talking back to the teacher when she was giving out bunk info, and I remember many fights that never amounted to more than a 3 day suspension. No arrests, no expels, and by the end of sophomore year most of the different groups all partied together and made up differences. I realized sometime around 2004 or so that common sense had gone out the window already. I think it was 9/11.

Originally posted by unityemissions




You just helped my argument NONE of those things you said went on in school during the 50's. You didnt have droves of people going to school high or talking back to the teacher. Yes you might have had one or two johnny rebels do it but it wasnt a common thing amongst the kids. This is not a opinion but more so a fact. You can argue till your blue in the face but schools were more productive and SAFE back then. Noone had to worry about their kids being sent to school and being shot or offered LSD or coke. Being in denial wont change those facts.



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reply posted on 13-2-2010 @ 12:14 PM by unityemissions
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Which argument are you for now? You seem to be fighting both sides. Multiple personalities? I'm confused.

Ah, I see now. You edited your post so now I read the sarcasm. Well then the change has been incremental. I'm pretty sure it's changed quite a bit in the last decade. I guess it changes each decade.

Oh yea, there weren't many kids who stood up to authority in my time. It was only the rebels who did so. We were allowed to because we understood that the system couldn't control us, and that we could talk our way out of just about anything. This was far from common.

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reply posted on 13-2-2010 @ 12:15 PM by SaturnFX
Google teen pregnancy in the 50's

-Why...teens were married in the 50s...if you knocked someone up when they were 14-15, you were getting married..be it through shotgun diplomacy or otherwise

Google teen murders in the 50's

-hard to find that statistic specifically, hard to even find crime rate, but did find a breakdown of stats for crime (below)

Google crime rate in the 50's

-Here is a breakdown of crime. Link of San Diego StatsThere is a spike in property/theft crime from then to now (we got more cool stuff to steal), Murder appears prettty steady...curiously nobody ever got raped in the 50s (mhmm, got a bridge to sell ya also) (incidently, cali will favor your argument far more than nationally)


Google teen suicide in the 50's
-cant find the stats, meh

Google crack cocaine use in the 50's

-Crack was not used back then, Link this is a little list of drug activity and issues of the 50s. The drugs of the day were reefer (madness), lots of pills and mood elevators (legal at the time), heroin, etc...cocaine was not overly popular due to a fairly poor import rate.

compare that to now
-as one dragon falls, another rises.


reply posted on 13-2-2010 @ 12:24 PM by unityemissions
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Name one person you've ever met who isn't a hypocrite, please..

You can't. Neither can I.

The whole world is screwed up, it's not just our nation. Humanity is inherently insane. Welcome to reality.


reply posted on 13-2-2010 @ 12:26 PM by SaturnFX
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Stones put it best.

Time can change me, but I cant change time.

Things always change, evolve, some good, some bad. It will never stop, and should never stop.
Things that work will have a long survivability in society, and things that damage will fade away once the newness is gone. Youth will be youth, grumpy old men will be grumpy old men, and at least that may never change.

You can reflect forever on how what is behind is better than what it now or whats ahead...and thats the norm for people as they age, but to stop change or step back into some idealistic wonderland you have created simply will never happen...and shouldn't happen. Humanitys purpose is to evolve, year by year. Back in my day (the 80s) of growing up as a youth, things were ggggreat, so long as I dont remember how much they also sucked. today, things suck, so long as I block out all the things that are great.


reply posted on 13-2-2010 @ 12:40 PM by ker2010
I want to bring up one more thing.

Basically their was more consequences for your actions back then.

My granddad was a tuff SOB. Someone you wouldnt wanna mess with. He died at 84 .

My dad grew up with 9 brothers and sisters and his dad supported them life was hard. Granddad cared for them but you didnt back talk. If he had said or did some of the things i said/did while growing up his dad would have knocked him across the room and he would be lucky to be able to sit a month afterward..

I got away with stuff my dad could only dream of. And ill admit there were more than a a handful of times i needed my azz kicked. But now you cant spank kids.

I have a 13 /yo nephew and he gets away with more stuff than i did. I just see each generation getting lazier and more disrespectful. Maybe its all in my mind or my neck of the woods but i dont think so. But i could be wrong.

I also have a cousin who is a 3rd grade teacher. She said half the kids at the school act like they have no raisings at all. The parents seem to not care and the kids are disrespectful and some say things that would make a sailor blush.



And i think that although the 50's werent perfect I think the parents layed down the law way better and put kids in their place. And if we could have one thing from the 50's back that is the one thing we need!

Would it make the world perfect? NO! But it would sure as hell make most kids more respectful and responsible. Just like the military does.




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