High School:1955 vs. 2010

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posted on Feb, 13 2010 @ 07:10 AM
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Yeah, but this is the post-Pearl Harbor world. There are people out there plotting to kill us. We're engaged in a global, world-wide war. That changes everything. Er, uh, wait a minute.... hmm, maybe the world hasn't really changed that much after all. We're no more secure, just a whole lot less free.




posted on Feb, 13 2010 @ 07:10 AM
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Originally posted by BlackPoison94
Haha, that was a great laugh!

Well - still being in high school, the only extreme thing that has occured is that a girl was expelled for swearing at a teacher. Oh and another was because she texted her mum to take her home 'cause she felt ill. Lame or what?


Swearing at teachers is not acceptable. The student discipline was appropriate. Perhaps children are exposed to swearinig at home and it is allowed because parents just don't care to discipline. This is one of the biggest problems with students today. No home discipline. No respect for authority. No respect for themselves. I hope she has learned something from this experience, and you too.



posted on Feb, 13 2010 @ 07:15 AM
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Originally posted by maldronath
My God...how well the scenarios in this OP remind me of what school was like
in the 50's and early 60's. This is a perfect example of what happens when common sense ruled rather than one size fits all legislation and zero tolerance
approach to all human behaviors.
As for when it all started to change, looking back I can clearly recall when it all
started ...the the writings and opinions of the social engineering types like Dr. Benjamin Spock.


Add to that alcoholic parents, drugged parents, and those parents who feel society owes them everything. They are militant and, whoa, don't mess with their kid.



posted on Feb, 13 2010 @ 07:28 AM
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Ahhhhhhh. How nostalgic or is it?

Considering the source (FreeRepublic a neocon extremist website) This is a technique often used along with other "code-speak."

Terms like: "The America I grew up in......." and "The way things were......" is a throwback to the old days. A predominantly white and segregated America. Plus the overall tone of the article was anti-Obama. Propaganda at its finest.

Based on the source and a few other threads by OP, I see this as just a veiled guise.
Rose colored glasses only look backwards.

As someone once said...."You can't go home again." Sorry, this is mostly a conspiracy forum and I rarely follow the herd. (By the way, I was born in 1956.)

On a positive note, people are living longer. Some data in case you don't like my opinion.

Life expectancy rates in the United States are at an all-time high, with people born in 2005 projected to live for nearly 78 years, a new federal study finds...The finding reflects a continuing trend of increasing life expectancy that began in 1955, when the average American lived to be 69.6 years old.


www.washingtonpost.com...

Regards...kk

[edit on 13-2-2010 by kinda kurious]



posted on Feb, 13 2010 @ 07:32 AM
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I was in high school in the early 90's. Wasn't so bad. I was caught with fireworks and nothing came of it. Just confiscation of the fireworks. I usually had a pocket knife as did most of us. Not sure if that was against the rules oranything.

Right before graduation we all had to fill ou these stupid questionaires for the yearbook profiles. For "what do you want to have accomplished in 5 years" I wrote "kill four people." because there was this guy we knew. This massive guy who was funny as hell. He used to walk through the halls singing his "I'm gonna kill 4 people" song. He'd stop and point and go "imma kill you and you and you" then continue "imma gonna kill 4 people." it was pretty catchy.

Anyway, my answer got a lot if laughs from peers and got me a meeting with the principal. He wasn't a tool or anything and the gist of it is that he wanted to make sure I wasn't some half-tard psychopath that was planning some idiotic graduation day assault or something.

The short of it is, I think too much energy is wasted on all levels to accomidate and pacify this populuation of the lowest common denominator half-yards out there who walk around in some fog. You all know the type. These morons who think the only reason a crime is "bad" is because it's illegal. The people who don't seem entirely human but more ape.

This is making living mostly unbearable for the rest of us who aren't mentally disfuctional children in adult bodies.


 
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posted on Feb, 13 2010 @ 07:51 AM
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This is so dumb and over-exaggerated it's not even funny. I'm in my senior year of high school, and more or less, all those 1955 situations apply to today.

Stop reminiscing, stop living in the past, and stop acting like kids today are going to grow up VASTLY different than you did.



posted on Feb, 13 2010 @ 07:52 AM
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S & F , I've read this before though but I still find it semi-humorous and maddening. I wonder what this world will be like in 10 years if we keep on going after 2012 haha. I'm not making any bets on that either.

My highschool experience wasn't the best, a loner in a rural school. So to work out my aggressions i ended up starting to write poetry. Was told it was good (it was dark) and another teacher got to see it. Him, being "down-to-earth" told the counselor and I was then almost put on suicide watch. They called my parents even.... lot of drama for just writing a bit o poetry.. *sighs*

That was one of the few negatives I had from school. I'll add the second one..

Some "bully" took my homework before class and I was mad cause i procrastinated so I yanked him by his shirt to get it back. He threw the paper at me, i closed my eyes cause it hit me in the face, took a blow to the side of my head.
Took that to the Vice principal and I couldn't confirm if it was his fist or his elbow so he got away with it.... which I didn't understand why it mattered.

*grumbles* ok.. enough for flashbacks. I'm looking towards the future for now hehe.

Cheers!



posted on Feb, 13 2010 @ 07:56 AM
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I agree with you. Some of those scenarios are fairly accurate, like the shotgun one, but most are exaggerated.

It was a pretty entertaining read though.



posted on Feb, 13 2010 @ 08:02 AM
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I think that many factors have influenced the changes in the level of authority and trust within schools and society as a whole over the last 5 or so decades, each one connected to the other... 9/11, technological advances, conservative governments, the creation and exacerbation of irrational fears by mainstream media, etc... the list goes on.

We have all witnessed in one way or another throughout or lives how it has progressed to the ridiculous stage it is at today, and it isn't just the U.S., it's happening everywhere..(I live in Australia and although it isn't as extreme, it seems to be heading that way)

What scares me the most is what will it be like, in say 2030? You'd probably get locked up for breathing the wrong way.



posted on Feb, 13 2010 @ 08:24 AM
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Originally posted by aero56

Originally posted by BlackPoison94
Haha, that was a great laugh!

Well - still being in high school, the only extreme thing that has occured is that a girl was expelled for swearing at a teacher. Oh and another was because she texted her mum to take her home 'cause she felt ill. Lame or what?


Swearing at teachers is not acceptable. The student discipline was appropriate.


thats a conplete load of crap! yes, swearing at teachers is not appropriate, but getting expelled for swearing is way too far. should have gotten detention at worst.



posted on Feb, 13 2010 @ 09:10 AM
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And do you want to know the biggest reason for such changes? One of the most powerful lobbies in the United States. The Lawyers. They continually lobby to legislate everything, to ensure things are sensationalized and that they will be called into involvement for the littlest of things to the biggest.

Lawyers make billions upon billions every year due to the way they have led our nation into sensationalistic legalism. They are also closely tied into the prison industrial complex and also law enforcement. Their lobbying has created an extremely lucrative profit machine for all involved.



posted on Feb, 13 2010 @ 09:22 AM
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The only problem with the point you are trying to make is that since 1955..we have had the columbine shootings, teachers actually do abuse kids...kids do actually try to bring drugs into schools and those fist fights usually end up with somebody pulling a knife they had hidden down their boxers that have been sticking out all day. So, yes..1955 things were handled much differently..because things were different back then. its unfortunate but true.



posted on Feb, 13 2010 @ 09:28 AM
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Originally posted by anonymousstranger

Originally posted by aero56

Originally posted by BlackPoison94
Haha, that was a great laugh!

Well - still being in high school, the only extreme thing that has occured is that a girl was expelled for swearing at a teacher. Oh and another was because she texted her mum to take her home 'cause she felt ill. Lame or what?


Swearing at teachers is not acceptable. The student discipline was appropriate.


thats a conplete load of crap! yes, swearing at teachers is not appropriate, but getting expelled for swearing is way too far. should have gotten detention at worst.


I do agree that it is definitely inappropriate, however another girl did the same, though she was suspended. There were ulterior moves for the 1st girl who got expelled. She created a havoc in our school and the school didn't even classify it as an expulsion - as in didn't tell the council - something about paying £10,000.



posted on Feb, 13 2010 @ 09:38 AM
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I was not alive in 1955 but this comparison seems quite accurate to me. Of course, it's a tad exaggerated for comedic purposes, but the underlying point that things have taken a drastic turn for the worse is very true.

Those of you who think the 2010 part of this is overly exaggerated, you clearly have not seen how the school system works now. I have been out of school for 6 years now but I was in school pre-and-post-Columbine and pre-and-post-9/11, so I've seen the changes. Plus, I have a brother and sister currently attending a high school that is fenced off and run like a Nazi concentration camp.

As I said, this post is clearly meant to be funny, but the point is there and valid: things have changed and something needs to be done to correct it.



posted on Feb, 13 2010 @ 09:40 AM
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Before we get too misty eyed, let's keep looking at 1955:
Arthur shows up in class, but because he's black he's beaten up. Later, the teacher burns a cross on his lawn.
Mary brings home a report card with with one failing grade, so her father forces her to have oral sex. Mary goes on to become a famous porn star.
Mr. Smith is an earnest science teacher. He explains the principle of natural selection to his class and is denounced as a "Commie Atheist." He never works again.
Get real, people!



posted on Feb, 13 2010 @ 09:41 AM
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So everyone thinks the 1950's were great? Sure, if you were white, male, straight, and fought in the war. The Republican party is banking on 1950's values, so there seems to be a group of people who only remember the good parts for their own demographics. What about....

Women's rights did not exist, and violence against women was covered up and not talked about. Employment for women outside the home was limited to being a nurse, secretary, or teacher.

If you were black or hispanic, you were marginalized. And segregation?

Post-war trauma was dealt with alcoholism, and counseling for "real men" was discouraged. The effect on families was profound.

Personal liberty was not encouraged, as the country had just succeeded in war by "getting in line" and following orders. This mentality carried over to what would become suburban sprawl, with everything the same.

Homosexuality did not exist, because it wasn't talked about (or understood).

The beginning of the Cold War had everyone afraid of Russia and nuclear war. It could be argued that this was a greater perceived threat than Islamic terrorism today (anyone remember doing fallout drills in school...duck and cover?)

Smoking was great!

Environmental concerns were limited to how much of the environment we could turn into row houses and exert our dominance over nature. Asbestos...great stuff! Mercury...yes!



So let's remember the 1950's with some perspective, and be clear about what was so great about those times compared to these. There is a reason why groups rebelled against the conformity of the 50's, and may we continue to do so for years to come.



posted on Feb, 13 2010 @ 09:47 AM
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Originally posted by DJW001
Arthur shows up in class, but because he's black he's beaten up. Later, the teacher burns a cross on his lawn.


This happens to White and Hispanic people now at schools that have been taken over by Blacks. How is that any different?


Originally posted by DJW001
Mary brings home a report card with with one failing grade, so her father forces her to have oral sex. Mary goes on to become a famous porn star.


This doesn't still happen? Also add in that Mary probably is molested by her teacher in exchange for a passing grade.


Originally posted by DJW001
Mr. Smith is an earnest science teacher. He explains the principle of natural selection to his class and is denounced as a "Commie Atheist." He never works again.


How is it any different today? Teachers are forbidden from teaching their own material. They must go by the book, and the book is full of propaganda.


Originally posted by DJW001
Get real, people!


Bad examples. Try again.



posted on Feb, 13 2010 @ 09:50 AM
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Originally posted by kinda kurious
Ahhhhhhh. How nostalgic or is it?

Considering the source (Free Republic a neocon extremist website) This is a technique often used along with other "code-speak."

Terms like: "The America I grew up in......." and "The way things were......" is a throwback to the old days. A predominantly white and segregated America. Plus the overall tone of the article was anti-Obama. Propaganda at its finest.

Based on the source and a few other threads by OP, I this is as just a veiled guise.
Rose colored glasses only look backwards.

As someone once said...."You can't go home again." Sorry, this is mostly a conspiracy forum and I rarely follow the herd. (By the way, I was born in 1956.)

On a positive note, people are living longer. Some data in case you don't like my opinion.

Life expectancy rates in the United States are at an all-time high, with people born in 2005 projected to live for nearly 78 years, a new federal study finds...The finding reflects a continuing trend of increasing life expectancy that began in 1955, when the average American lived to be 69.6 years old.


www.washingtonpost.com...

Regards...kk


[edit on 13-2-2010 by kinda kurious]


I haven't figured out how to respond to posts like this yet. It's really hard for me to comprehend why someone claims to make this into a "racist" thing,or an "anti-Obama" thing.
If this person and I were talking face-to-face,I could just laugh and shake my head,and maybe we'd both laugh at the absurdidty of what was said. These statements about "code-speak",...just so irrational and judgemental and lacking any basis other than someone's over-active paranoid delusions,in my opinion.

If there's one thing I hate,it's people trying to put words in my mouth and try to say they know what I am thinking. As I said,I have a hard time responding to these type of people,because in real life,I'll refuse to have an argument with someone if they won't stick to the facts,if they reply with outrageous insinuations and appear to be only stirring up more problems than solutions and not staying on the subject.

The only thing worth responding to in this reply was the part about people living longer these days...as though that's a good thing! Maybe to some it is,but for me,it's Quality of life that counts,not the mere number of years.

Living in a "Nineteen Eighty-Four" world is not my style,and that is what where we are headed,and in many ways are already there.

Oh well,we still have to make the best of things,so I think I'll go take a walk and enjoy the sunshine!

Really not up to any lengthy,hot-headed debates at this time anyway,especially since I just gave up smoking cigarettes a couple of weeks ago,and my concentration is suffering badly,along with my attitude!

I'm glad this thread was well-received,for the most part! Thanks for all the stars and comments!



posted on Feb, 13 2010 @ 09:58 AM
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Ahh lets not forget the darker side...will toss out a few examples in the format of the OPs.

Tommy the African American kid is seen kissing Jenny the white girl.
1955: A lynchin we will go is sung, another tree gets more weight
2010: nothing special

Jenny is pregnant and not married
1955: outcast. if she was raped or otherwise wanted to get rid of the baby, its time to play with coathangers
2010: she either has the baby with the support of family and friends, or gets a medical procedure to stop it forming into a baby

John has a discussion about the merits of communism in society
1955: Detained, questioned, imprisoned
2010: A good and healthy debate with people

Mack releases a album that has lyrics "Religion makes you sleep"
1955: Charged with absurd blasphemy laws
2010: Considered thought provoking lyrics

Jack and Herman seen holding hands
1955: both charged (after beatings to near death) with sodomy laws
2010: nothing much...few odd glances by the people born before 1955

etc etc etc.
You can take any timeframe and see either sunshine and rainbows, or rain and darkness...every age...let me repeat, EVERY age has its pros and cons. I prefer the world of 2010 because I like seeing women showing more than the occasional glimpse of stockings, the freedom of speech and expression, The fact that todays society does not encourage violence as the solution for everything, etc.

neat topic though, props to the OPs, will even throw a flag atcha for effort. now, do one on how 1855 was better than 1955 and why



posted on Feb, 13 2010 @ 10:03 AM
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Originally posted by NovusOrdoMundi

Originally posted by DJW001
Arthur shows up in class, but because he's black he's beaten up. Later, the teacher burns a cross on his lawn.


This happens to White and Hispanic people now at schools that have been taken over by Blacks. How is that any different?


Originally posted by DJW001
Mary brings home a report card with with one failing grade, so her father forces her to have oral sex. Mary goes on to become a famous porn star.


This doesn't still happen? Also add in that Mary probably is molested by her teacher in exchange for a passing grade.


Originally posted by DJW001
Mr. Smith is an earnest science teacher. He explains the principle of natural selection to his class and is denounced as a "Commie Atheist." He never works again.


How is it any different today? Teachers are forbidden from teaching their own material. They must go by the book, and the book is full of propaganda.


Originally posted by DJW001
Get real, people!


Bad examples. Try again.



I don't think he's trying to say that today is perfect. He's showing that the past wasn't as perfect as people are acting like it was. Let's face it. Human beings are taking forever to learn anything. We may never learn. We have a hard time learning from past mistakes. There's still plenty of ignorant racists and homophobes in today's world.





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