PROOF that Building 7 was demolished with explosives!!!, page 4

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reply posted on 13-2-2010 @ 02:06 AM by NightGypsy

reply to post by suchi

I'm not willing to get into the complicated details that prove that the building was not destroyed by anyone other than terrorists, its been proven and reproven countless times and many people have not changed their minds. I don't even believe that any person here thinks OP's video shows any conspiracy. I think this topic is viewed as a fun little story and the theorists who participate and add to it are getting enjoyment out of expressing their creative versions of what happened on September 11th.

If you have the nerve to proclaim that people who believe our government had responsibility in this act need psychiatric help, then you'd better be willing to "get into the complicated details" that prove your belief.

If you won't do that, then I don't believe you have really even explored the facts of this issue and I suspect you are speaking out of fear that these pieces of evidence are valid. In any event, I believe your recommendations for the shrink are misplaced and perhaps you should explore why you choose to practice the psychological phenomenon known as "denial."

reply posted on 13-2-2010 @ 02:06 AM by lozenge

reply to post by suchi

let me guess... you either didn't watch the video or you failed high-school physics.

do you have a psychology degree? no? then you can't assess peoples minds especially if you haven't met them in person.

reply posted on 13-2-2010 @ 02:09 AM by downisreallyup

Originally posted by GenRadek
reply to post by Sean48

Ah yes of course! It was that super sekrut magic nanu nanu thermite that applies in a micron thin coating that manages to somehow explode silently and melt at the same time! THAT is your evidence???? Gage? The one who uses cardboard boxes to prove how the WTC couldnt have collapsed the way they did?? He should have put on a red rubber nose while he was at it.
Jones? The one who botched his experiment from start to finish? They give you facts???? Who is believing in fairy tales again?

A few facts: Thermite does not explode. It is NOT an explosive.

Sorry Gen, but nano-thermite DOES explode, so while your off wasting precious finger-muscle energy typing away about thermite, most of us who actually pay attention are snickering because we know that nobody is claiming that plain old thermite was used... it's called NANO-thermite, SUPER-thermite... take your pick!

Here's a little refresher course for you, discussing the HIGHLY exothermic reaction of this metastable intermolecular composite:

Article on SUPER-thermite

reply posted on 13-2-2010 @ 02:14 AM by NightGypsy

reply to post by lozenge

let me guess... you either didn't watch the video or you failed high-school physics.

Actually, I don't even think that one needs to understand physics in this particular instance. The other evidence is substantial enough that anyone with common sense and an open mind can conclude the building was brought down by demolition all by their "wittle self."

reply posted on 13-2-2010 @ 02:15 AM by dereks

Originally posted by lozenge
and Mossad operation, etc)

Ah yes, when in doubt just blame the jews, some people blame them for everything, we all know that they are responsible for everything!

reply posted on 13-2-2010 @ 02:21 AM by truthseeker1984

Originally posted by downisreallyup

Originally posted by iamsupermanv2
I am no demo expert by any means, but to me it AT THE VERY LEAST looks as if someone pulled a string that took out all of the supports. This was controlled. This video shows it. The fire was on the other side of the building, yet the supports closet to the camera failed. That does not add up.

I can, if proven to be true, swallow a lot of the OS.

I cannot, ever, swallow that Building 7 and the Pentagon went down like they say it did.

And trust me, my life would be so much easier if I could.

Friend, I hear you completely. The fact is, and this is what all the "trusters" out there fail to see... NO "truther" wants to be a truther. None of us want to believe what we believe. We all wish it wasn't true and would gladly go back to the days of innocence... but how can we? How can we pretend that things are as the government tells us when all the evidence points to the very opposite?

Nearly everyone bought the OS when it first came out. Those of us who have come to see more of the truth have done so by great personal inner conflict and pain. Nobody wants to believe their government is corrupt or capable of killing them enmasse. Nobody wants to believe that the country they love and would indeed die for has become the very antithesis of all they believed it to be.

This is why the 2nd Amendment is still in existence....at least for a while longer. It is to protect US citizens from the Government. I feel for everybody who lost a loved one on that day, and it's the Government's turn to pay. If I had my way I would organize millions of people to march on Washington tomorrow and show them that the people aren't sheep, and that we are ready to stand up and fight for our freedom against enemies both foreign AND DOMESTIC. The only way to take back our Government, our Country, and our livelihoods at this point is BY FORCE. There is no other way, and this is how our Founding Fathers would have wanted it.

I just pray for a quick end to all of this madness, because it's getting too much to bear. Let's just hope that the good ones still left in our Government finally stop turning a blind eye and start striking at the heart of the matter. If not, God/Goddess help us all.

reply posted on 13-2-2010 @ 02:24 AM by m khan

If the government admitted that building 7 was demolished then they would have some credibility, but since they stand by their lies they expose their culpability for the whole project. Murder is such a little thing to them, and they seem incredibly confident of their ability to manipulate the public. But the biggest danger from those brilliant thinkers in their lofty think tanks is when they decide that they can't hold on to the lies any more and therefore must convert the society into a police state and massacre a bunch of people before they totally lose control. IMOH this is the reason for the big push for "socialism" or fascism behind the healthcare legislation and to push for increased taxes to weaken the public and create chaos before a fascist takeover.
People still claim that our government is not capable of heinous behavior, but they don't realize that the government that we acknowledge that we consider a respectable, law abiding entity is a total facade, that the real government has been experimenting with crimes against humanity for some time under cover of the CIA, all over the globe.
As a nation we are living a lie. We are pretending that our government is decent, Granted there might be some decent people possibly who work for the government but somehow they are kept in the dark about what is going on.

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reply posted on 13-2-2010 @ 02:26 AM by ugie1028

reply to post by Sean48

this is a prime example of physics following laws of conservation, and action-reaction. There wasn't enough force from the upper floors in this building, and it stopped.

Whenever a first body exerts a force F on a second body, the second body exerts a force −F on the first body. F and −F are equal in magnitude and opposite in direction.

Wiki

HOWEVER BUILDING 7 DIDINT! why were laws of physics violated!?

EDIT: Grammar, and to add clarity.

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reply posted on 13-2-2010 @ 02:31 AM by googolplex

Illreguardless of what anyone is saying, it is so simple to see that a cover up has traspired.
It seems is well know that it is so, so easy to fool American public, tell them any thing they believe it.

Now the simple fact, feel free to correct me, but right now a study of all the bridges in the the US is on going.
One of the things they are looking at is " the Architects " is since our bridges are in a state of 70% disrepair, what was done wrong to begin with to make these bridges better the next time.
So this is what they are doing with the bridges, good fix it make it better.

This is what show 9/11 was, is, a cover-up, if it was not these Architects would have been given a open door, to look into and fix what ever was wrong with the way these builing were built.

No offence but it would foolish, not to relize, you don't hide info, from person who made thing, unless you are hiding, what really happened.
With all the brains these Architects have it would not take long to pick apart the pieces of the puzzle.

To many people are to afraid, or stupid, to say we want to know now, open the books now.

Hitler did the same thing, right in front of the German People's face, and they say the Germans were smart.

reply posted on 13-2-2010 @ 02:42 AM by Alfie1

Originally posted by downisreallyup
reply to post by GenRadek

There are numerous testimonies from people claiming that a countdown was heard, followed by explosions, followed by the collapse.

Here is one guy who was there and witnessed the whole thing, including a Red Cross worker covering his walkie-talkie trying to mask the countdown, but unable to do so the entire time, revealing the final "three-two-one" just before the explosions occurred:

YouTube Link

I can't believe this old rubbish has surfaced again. So the Red Cross were in charge of WTC 7 demolition ? !

reply posted on 13-2-2010 @ 02:48 AM by m khan

IMHO the government, when pulling off this deception, did not count on the scrutiny it would get from professional people like architects and pilots. But you have to realize how insulting this is to the people who built our skyscrapers that they could be demolished in this way. They have built our nation's structures for many years and guarantee that they are not going to fall down so easily. It also should be apparent to intelligent people that a fertilizer bomb detonated at such a distance could not have taken down the Murrah building. It is also quite a stretch to think that the earthquake in Haiti could kill 200,000 people. When you ignore your government's "misbehavior" it doesn't get better it gets worse. We will never know what really caused the destruction in Haiti because our government has an established history of deceit and coverup.

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reply posted on 13-2-2010 @ 02:59 AM by AnonymousMoose

This has been discussed before and if I recall they explained it away as the windows in the stairway blowing out first, I dunno what to think but it is interesting for sure

reply posted on 13-2-2010 @ 03:13 AM by conspiracy88

reply to post by GenRadek

What I find funny about your whole "there was no sound!" rebuttal is this: why the heck would the government (who already knew they were gonna be breaking every law of physics possible on that day) make it even more obvious by letting everyone hear the demolition go off. In this day in age, I can say with almost 100% certainty that someone out there in this great big world of ours has figured a way to do demolitions silently. Actually, wait there is a way! It's not that hard big man, just search google for silent demolitions. Going by my search, there are a number of commercial companies that already perform these operations. Seriously! What is wrong with you people! None of the 9/11 story makes any sense so why are you still defending it! This is exactly why we will always be controlled by tptb because people like you defend them when they could care less about you. Ignorance is bliss, it's been said a billion times but never gets old. Whatever. I guess we'll meet at the final battle on opposite sides. I welcome it. I'll enjoy ridding our world of ignorance. Enjoy fighting for those who want to destroy you

reply posted on 13-2-2010 @ 03:21 AM by conspiracy88

reply to post by dereks

Then I guess you're ignoring the tons of people who DID notice and HAVE spoken up but of course it's not gonna be plastered all over the evening news like you probably want it to be.

reply posted on 13-2-2010 @ 03:37 AM by conspiracy88

reply to post by suchi

Maybe you should see a doctor. You're in clear denial. THAT is counterproductive to society. For someone who comes off trying to sound so smart, you think the guy would question the OS right everyone? Intelligent people question, idiots follow. You my friend, are a follower haha because I can't flat out call you the other one.

reply posted on 13-2-2010 @ 03:38 AM by Strype

reply to post by downisreallyup

What "explosions" are you talking about? There's not a single explosion in the video you've posted. Not that I disagree with your idea behind the post, you're creating something from nothing. There's a huge difference between an explosion and windows breaking from infrastructural damage. You've posted a video of glass breaking caused by structural failure, and nothing explosive.

Cheers,
Strype

reply posted on 13-2-2010 @ 03:38 AM by NightGypsy

reply to post by m khan

If the government admitted that building 7 was demolished then they would have some credibility, but since they stand by their lies they expose their culpability for the whole project. Murder is such a little thing to them, and they seem incredibly confident of their ability to manipulate the public

Well, I wouldn't go so far as to say admitting bldg. 7 was demolished would give them "credibility." It definitely would implicate them in mass murder, though, which would be a very welcome turn of events that we all wish for.

But one thing I did notice in this particular case is that there was very little done on the part of the responsibles to tie up the loose ends in this crime. For instance;

>>They didn't stop to think that among thousands of witnesses in the area that day, there's probably gonna be some folks who hear bombs going off

>>They used the names of people who weren't dead as suspects

>>They never bothered to address the potential for someone to question why Osama bin Laden wasn't listed for this crime on the FBI's most wanted list, but yet has him on there for the embassy bombings that occurred years earlier

>>They never bothered to place three of the supposed "heroes" from flight 93 in the Social Security Death Index, including Todd Beamer of "Let's Roll" fame, yet the one Todd Beamer listed in the index coincidentally has a birthdate of 9/11/68

>>They failed to get their ducks in a row with Mr. Silverstein, allowing him to profess on national television that he authorized Bldg. 7 to be "pulled" on 9/11

>>They were stupid enough to have cameras filming Bush's activities in the Virginia classroom at the time he gets the official word about the attacks and don't seem to consider the public is going to question why he sat there with his head up his %$& putting the kids and himself in harm's way--and his secret service and other staff didn't respond at all either!

That's just a few examples.

This is how stupid they believe us to be. So much so that they don't give a damn if we discover their crimes or not.

reply posted on 13-2-2010 @ 03:44 AM by conspiracy88

reply to post by truthseeker1984

I'm ready to stand by you brother. Let's go and take our country back. Death to tyranny, hunger, unemployment, slave wages, warrantless wiretapping, ridiculously expensive and ineffective healthcare, oppression, pointless wars, the list goes on and on...

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reply posted on 13-2-2010 @ 03:48 AM by downisreallyup

Originally posted by Strype
reply to post by downisreallyup

What "explosions" are you talking about? There's not a single explosion in the video you've posted. Not that I disagree with your idea behind the post, you're creating something from nothing. There's a huge difference between an explosion and windows breaking from infrastructural damage. You've posted a video of glass breaking caused by structural failure, and nothing explosive.

Cheers,
Strype

I'm sorry but you do not know the reason those windows blew out, and yes they blew out as evidenced by the smoke that came barreling out. You say they popped out from the building stress, but that is only conjecture and not a very good one at that. The place where those windows blew out is not the place where the building may have stressed, if you look at the place where the roof kinks, it's on the other side of the building.

To my eyes and many others, those windows did not just pop out... they flew out, or perhaps even in as a vacuum occurred inside the building. It is unclear which way they went.

Anyhow, regardless, we know that we are only looking at the top part of a very tall building, so it is unclear exactly what happened on the lower floors. It is highly probable though that the lower support structures were blown out, causing that tall building to slide down into its own footprint. There are other witnesses that heard a countdown and also ones that heard explosions occur all through the afternoon.

While it is unorthodox, it is certainly possible that parts of the support structure were blown over a period of time, carefully planning which ones needed to be done in what order so as to hide the true nature of what was about to be done. This would not put people in danger since everyone had evacuated from the building once the planes hit, as testified by Barry Jennings who was in the building when the first bomb went off on the 6th floor (before either of the towres had fallen and well after the planes had struck the towers).

reply posted on 13-2-2010 @ 04:36 AM by lozenge

Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by lozenge
and Mossad operation, etc)

Ah yes, when in doubt just blame the jews, some people blame them for everything, we all know that they are responsible for everything!