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Look dude, I have CLEARLY stated my reasons, you do what you want. All YOU have shown me (and every other member on this site) is how immature, attention seeking, and ignorant you are, so congrats on that one.
And why in the HELL are you acting like this is some debate? You stated your opinion, I stated mine. That is it, I do not owe you, nor anyone a reason (which is painfully obvious to nearly everyone else, well anyone that is not trolling )
why I do not wish anyone (except maybe serial killers, Hitler, etc, even then I just don't say anything,
I surely try my best not to disrespect someone, let alone someone who did nothing but put our country in a budget surplus and tried his best to lead the country) dies, burns in hell, gets sicker, etc-
it is a general type of human to human etiquette, no debate needed. So there AGAIN, I have gave you an answer for your redundant question that doesn't matter anyways, as this is not a fact vs fact issue, it is a matter of etiquette and ideology.
NOW I am DONE wasting my time with you. If you still don't get it then oh well.
Originally posted by EMPIRE
Why should I or anyone else wish him well? Because it's a godly or loving thing to do? Because he was a president? Because he is a human being?
Just curious, do you know what a crack baby is? Are you wishing them well? After all, Clinton was heavily involved in the drug trade (just search ATS for proof and evidence) so why should I or anyone else devote kind words to him?
You should wish everyone well.
What you wish on someone else, you are inevitably wising upon your self.
Or, you can wallow in your own crap, once you wish it upon some one else.
Originally posted by ClintK
What total, laughable garbage. Not a single fact.
You're twisting his words around to make it sound ignorant and ill-spoken.
What you wish upon others, you are inevitably wishing upon yourself.
Your decision to believe in karma or not.
Don't change what someone says to sway the debate your way.
As for your.. hateful personality.
Have you lived your entire life perfectly?
Have you not made mistakes?
Put a normal man in a position of high power for one day, and he will most likely be on the verge of an anxiety attack worrying about screwing up.
Sit at the desk for four years(try 8), and it will almost inevitably happen at least once.
And stop pulling the "Innocence" card. You know DAMN well you're being hateful.
Pessimism doesn't suit anyone, in my opinion.
As previously stated, if this is a case of reaping what you sow why should Bill Clinton be afforded well wishes?
Do you have any scientific or empirical evidence that suggests what you’re wishing on others you are wishing on yourself? I’m sure there are many psychologist who will disagree with you and say wishing, or hoping for certain outcomes, are not projections of ones personality and will never manifest in a way that may harm the person doing the wishing.
So it all goes back to a belief that others wish to force feed on those with opposing views. Gotcha.
Stop relying on lies and your predisposition to believe in whatever ideology you hold. I haven’t misconstrued or twisted what anyone has said.
What proof do you have that what you wish on someone else is what you inevitably wish on yourself? If I have a son who gets hit by a car, you're telling me that happened because I wished it on myself? If my S.O. was killed I wished it on myself? If I died of cancer I wished it on myself?
On what grounds do you say I have a hateful personality? Because I expose the hypocrisy and idiocy of members? Because I question and continue to question in the face of adversity? Because I ask why anyone should send well wishes his way? Just curious, do you have any training in behavioral psychology or any field remotely related to personalities and how they are defined? If yes, do tell, if not, how did you arrive at your assessment?
I haven’t lived my entire life as I am still living. In regards to perfection, that is up for debate. What exactly is perfection?
This depends on what you define as a mistake.
How do you know this?
I can see you’ve failed to read the claims others and myself have made about Clinton.
There is nothing in my posts that can be defined as hate so how do you know I’m being hateful? If you read my posts, the majority have been question upon question based on inductive and deductive reasoning that members such as yourself refuse to answer.
Your opinions are your opinions, they pretty much only matter to you. Yes, I’m replying, but I’m replying for my own sake and for the sake of ATS users who stand for truth and justice, not because I value your opinion.
He is an imperfect human being. You cannot say you would have done better in his shoes, as you never have been or will be in his shoes.
It doesn't matter why he should be afforded well wishes. Life doesn't work that way. You can ask that question for almost anything; there is no answer for it. You haven't been in the man's head; neither have I.
Why shouldn't he be afforded well wishes?
I am a schizophrenic. Whenever I start thinking negatively, my mind begins to wander, and I end up having to catch myself before it goes too far.
Psychologists will be the first ones to AGREE that your mindset throughout the day creates your mood and how you live your life.
Why think negatively when positive thinking is proven to be healthy for you?
It doesn't matter if people force something on you or not; it is your decision to let it be forced even more, or to walk away.
If it means nothing to you, treat it as if it were nothing. To spend the time to address it only makes others see a weakness in your side of the debate, and they will continue to use it to try and undermine your position.
And yes. Everything goes back to beliefs that others wished to force feed on those with opposing views. That is how the world goes round.
I don't think you understand this completely. You may have responded before you were able to think it through. He didn't say "if something happens, you wished it upon yourself." He said, "What you wish on someone else, you are inevitably wising upon your self."
If you have a son who gets hit by a car, it would only be relevant if you had wished for anothers' child to get hit by a car. Otherwise, it is off topic of his original point, whether it be opinion or not.
Do you see where you twisted his words around yet? You are aggressive with how you approach things
You say others force their beliefs on you, yet you stampede through threads with YOUR OWN BELIEFS, and then berate anyone who says otherwise.
Hypocrisy doesn't dwell well here. You should know that, you've been registered for 5 years. I would think someone who's been interested in these things for so long would be more careful with their arguments, rather than sloppy.
Anything and everything can be put up to debate. What exactly is perfection? What exactly is soil? What exactly is radio waves?
To say we know facts through science is ignorance. Science is based upon the idea that at any given time, something can be discovered and changed everything. What we "know" know is only a crude understanding of our surroundings.
Nice job avoiding the question, though.
You continue to say others are not answering your questions, and yet you avoid a few yourself. I believe I've already mentioned hypocrisy.
How do you not? Have you never felt stress, failure, fear of failure? Have you never worried? It isn't something you can explain. You must experience it for yourself to truly understand how the human mind works.
I try not to rely on the "facts" the media have shown us isn't all that “reliable." Unless you were there, you cannot know what really happened.
After all, the government can blame anything they want on anyone. Who says they didn't undermind his authority, screw up, and then blame it on him, knowing we would believe their story over his?
Simply because you are not given the answer you were looking for, does not, in any way, conclude that the answer is incorrect.
As for the "hate," I've already redefined it as "aggressive." Better?
^Practice what you preach.
This is my last post.
I do not believe in Karma, I'm simply educated in what it stands for.
I do not believe in Christianity, but when someone is bashing it with lies and hatred, I will defend it to the truth; not on it's reality.
This has gotten off topic, then spread to off topic of the off topic.
You took what he said, and began asking, "If I have a son who is killed in a car crash, I wished it upon myself?" I explained that THAT would only be relevant if you had wished an others child to die in a car crash. He did not say that whatever happens to you, you wished it upon yourself.
# happens in normal life. To everyone. Karma believes that if you are good, good will come of it. If you are not good, good will most likely not come from it.
If a grown man strikes another man for no reason, the man who took the hit will most likely respond in kind.
It is a very simple belief system, which is good, as complexity breeds corruption.
I do not believe in Karma. I believe....
I believe in a lot of things; but not karma.
I believe this conversation is over.