Glenn Beck Exposing Progressives, your Chavez is showing!, page 1
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Topic started on 11-2-2010 @ 05:26 AM by Locoman8
Here is a great piece on the progressive movement and Glenn Beck's efforts to expose these evil people.
Source:
Glenn Beck Exposing Progressives, your Chavez is showing By Jen Shroder



Glenn Beck Exposing Progressives,
your Chavez is showing
By Jen Shroder / Free to repost
2/1/10

Ever feel like both Republicans and Democrats are just puppets on a stage of distraction? Glenn Beck has been explaining why to millions of captivated Americans. It’s the Progressive movement and it attacks the Constitution from BOTH parties. If you haven’t been watching his show, you need to.

Glenn explains how Progressivism has been with us since the turn of the century. It isn’t discussed in textbooks because President Woodrow Wilson and Walter Litman were part of the "Council of Foreign Relations" whose goal it was to change history as we knew it through education and the media. The movement (alive and well today) is out to replace our beloved Constitution with a philosophy that the elite should rule. Woodrow Wilson said, "Justly revered as our great Constitution is, it could be stripped off and thrown aside like a garment and the nation will still stand forth…" He said the preamble of the Constitution should never be read and the Declaration of Independence has zero relevance to any other age other than 1776.

I never heard that in school…

Academic elites hold George Bernard Shaw dearly in their hearts. Are they aware he was a Progressive that said, "I think it would be a good thing to make everybody come before a properly-appointed board, just as they might come before the income tax commissioner, and say every five years, or every seven years, just put them there, and say, "Sir, or madam, now will you be kind enough to justify your existence? If you're not producing as much as you consume or perhaps a little more, then, clearly, we cannot use the big organizations of our society for the purpose of keeping you alive, because your life does not benefit us and it can't be of very much use to yourself."




This is from a religious site but the author was spot on in my opinion. Anyways, I wanted to start discussions on progressives and the plans they have under their sleeves so any contribution is welcome here. Thanks.








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reply posted on 11-2-2010 @ 11:01 PM by Locoman8
reply to post by links234



How is equating Obama with Hitler any different than the liberals equating Bush with Hitler? Obama is a socialist and freely admits it and the NAZI's were known as the "National Socialist Party". If you don't watch Beck, don't put words in his mouth like he's using fear to scare people or something like that. He is giving facts that no one can call him on... They just try to smear his name and try to shut him up or try to twist what he said.



reply posted on 12-2-2010 @ 04:39 AM by Locoman8
Originally posted by David9176
Turn off Glen Beck.

Every time I see someone on ATS say something about Progressive's, I can be rest assured it's something they heard from Glen Beck. After all, it's what he focuses almost entirely on now.


Why not focus on it? These are the people running our country right now.


The guy ignores more corruption than he claims to expose and constantly rails against Obama calling him every name in the book that he can get away with.


All he does is use Obama's own words against him. He only calls Obama what Obama admits to being.. Progressive, Socialist, Idealist. What is he ignoring? Conspiracy theories? He's smart to stay away from those topics and focus on our current situation to get people thinking for themselves again. Out with the old and in with the new... that's a lesson people should learn more often.


He states there are "good" democrats out there.....well what, in his definition, a good democrat? A Conservative Democrat? The guy is focused on word play for the most part.


Good democrats are out there. Joe Lieberman was one before becoming an independent. John Edwards was one before his affair blew up in his face. The current bunch of democrats in Washington are just playing party games right now. Pushing the republicans to the side and keeping everything "partisan".


Obama is a socialist and freely admits it and the NAZI's were known as the "National Socialist Party"


Word play. Hitler turned Germany into a Fascist state before it turned to Nazism. The definition of Fascism used to be "the integration of government and business" in the 70's. It has since changed...I wonder why..... Look it up.


The integration of government and business? Government Motors anyone?


Neither Bush nor Obama is comparable to Hitler...so are you playing..."Well he did it first! So it's ok if I say something similar!"


I'm not playing that at all. I'm saying that liberals calling Bush comparable to Hitler was just as rediculous as conservatives calling Obama Hitler.


reply posted on 13-2-2010 @ 02:28 AM by Locoman8
reply to post by iMacFanatic



Once again, a bunch of mumbo-jumbo but no facts or examples to back up what you are saying. Progressives are the Robin Hoods of the world. They believe in the "take from the rich and give to the poor" way of life. They believe in the "collective" well-being as opposed to individual liberties. And what happens if a person of the "collective" doesn't contribute to the well being of that group? This is where people like Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Gruvera, Castro and others come in to the scenario. They start off peacefully but stab you in the back if you don't play ball... literally.



reply posted on 14-2-2010 @ 03:54 AM by links234
Originally posted by Locoman8
reply to
post by iMacFanatic

This is where people like Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Gruvera, Castro and others come in to the scenario. They start off peacefully but stab you in the back if you don't play ball... literally.


Hitler, Guevarra, Castro, Mao, and Stalin did NOT start peacefully.

Hitler used bullying tactics in politics and in the streets to come to power, under the guise of socialism he FOUGHT the communists and killed many sympathizers in Germany...not to mention killing millions of people regardless of political persuasion. That is not a socialst, that is a fascist dictator.

Guevarra and Castro were revolutionaries fighting Batista the moment they stepped foot onto Cuba.

Mao came to power shortly after two-decades of civil and international war in China.

Lenin died a few years after the Bolshevik revolution and Stalin killed any other possible candidates as leader of the communist party.

On the contrary, Barack Obama was elected by a democratic majority of, not just the population, but the government laws in place without having to shoot people!

Glenn Beck draws non-existent parallels to progressives today and dictators...or those considered 'bad guys'. I don't watch Beck, but I've listened to him on the radio several times. Please, oh please, give me one thing Beck states as absolute truth about modern day progressives so we can make a judgement on it. Not just, "Glenn Beck is right about everything."


reply posted on 14-2-2010 @ 09:01 AM by Locoman8
reply to post by links234



These are Progressives with EVIL philosophies, admiring mass murderers like Che, Castro, Stalin and Mao. So who do we know that’s a Progressive today? Beck plays the clips:

HILLARY CLINTON: "I prefer the word Progressive which has a real American meaning going back to the Progressive era at the beginning of the 20th Century. I consider myself a modern Progressive.

BARACK OBAMA: "You will carry on the best Progressive forward looking values of this proud commonwealth…," "Change has always come from places like Wisconsin, the State where the Progressive movement was born." He refers to Democrats as Progressives.

Before becoming President, Obama said the Warren court failed to "break free from the essential constraints" in the U.S. Constitution and launch a major redistribution of wealth. But Obama said the legislative branch of government, rather than the courts, probably was the ideal avenue for accomplishing that goal. Then he stood there in his State of the Union Address and chastised the US Supreme Court for their decision to uphold the Constitution.

MICHELLE OBAMA on the campaign trail: "…and Barack knows that we are gonna have to make sacrifices, we are gonna have to change our conversation, we are gonna have to change our traditions, our history, we are gonna have to move into a different place."

ANITA DUNN, former White House Communications Director: "Mao Tse Tung and Mother Teresa; not often coupled with each other, but the two people that I turn to most."

Mao was responsible for the deaths of 70 million people!

RON BLOOM, Manufacturing ‘Czar’: "We know that the free market is nonsense.... We know that this is largely about power, that it's an adults only, no-limit game. We kind of agree with Mao that political power comes largely from the barrel of a gun."

There are 82 members of the Progressive Caucus of the Democratic Party. In fact, 11 out of 20 standing committees are chaired by members of the Progressive Caucus.


reply posted on 14-2-2010 @ 11:53 PM by links234
reply to post by Locoman8



There is where it all falls apart, Beck is the only one calling a communist a progressive, it leads us back to communist=socialist=etc, etc, etc.

Mao Ze Dong...eh...I'm really up and down with that guy. Great political philosopher, sure. Horrible, careless leader, yeah. I, personally, believe you can admire a philosophy while showing contempt for a policy. If you don't agree, then we're just different in that respect.

I don't recognize Che Guevara as a mass murderer on the scale of Stalin or Mao. Not even Castro, not on the scale of millions, maybe hundreds or even thousands. Looking at the general idea of the Cuban people it's highly debatable on what kind of leader Fidel Castro has been, why would he still be in power if he was such a horrible person? Why did the Bay of Pigs invasion fail?

Specifically with the Cubans, I think it's an odd double standard where the rebellious forefathers of America are heroes fighting for freedom while socialist revolutionaries of the 20th century are derided for fighting for equality against percieved opression.


reply posted on 15-2-2010 @ 03:03 AM by links234
reply to post by concernedcitizan



People who claim not to be part of any political persuasion lie to themselves and have some notion that their thoughts can't be classified because of their unique individuality. Political Compass Test


reply posted on 15-2-2010 @ 03:08 AM by infinite
reply to post by Locoman8



Do you know what the definition of progressivism is and its history-without switching on Glenn Beck and spreading his opinion?

[edit on 15-2-2010 by infinite]



reply posted on 15-2-2010 @ 09:25 AM by Locoman8
reply to post by infinite



Ideas and Movements, 19th century
The Progressive Movement was an effort to cure many of the ills of American society that had developed during the great spurt of industrial growth in the last quarter of the 19th century. The frontier had been tamed, great cities and businesses developed, and an overseas empire established, but not all citizens shared in the new wealth, prestige, and optimism.

Efforts to improve society were not new to the United States in the late 1800s. A major push for change, the First Reform Era, occurred in the years before the Civil War and included efforts of social activists to reform working conditions, and humanize the treatment of mentally ill people and prisoners.

Others removed themselves from society and attempted to establish utopian communities in which reforms were limited to their participants. The focal point of the early reform period was abolitionism, the drive to remove what in the eyes of many was the great moral wrong of slavery.


source: www.u-s-history.com...


A few things that caught my eye in this are as follows:

the conviction that government must play a role to solve social problems and establish fairness in economic matters.


This gave government control economically and socially... a recipe for facism and dictatorship.


The Progressive spirit also was evident in new amendments added to the Constitution, which provided for a new means to elect senators, protect society through prohibition and extend suffrage to women.


Why elect senators? The constitution dosn't call for that in the first place. We see how well prohibition worked out. Progressives want to control our lives, just face it. No matter how buttered up it is. We get less individual freedoms and more control through progressivism and socialism.



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[edit on Mon Feb 15 2010 by Jbird]


reply posted on 15-2-2010 @ 11:24 AM by infinite
reply to post by Locoman8



Without copying and pasting from another website (which is against T&C btw)

So the answer to my question, was no. You don't know the meaning of progressivism.

Thank you
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