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Originally posted by Bombeni
reply to post by pujols5
Is there ANYTHING that muslim men are not allowed to do?
Originally posted by dariousg
Originally posted by smyleegrl
3. Where does the practice of honor killings originate, if not in the Koran?
thanks,
In the Old Testiment. Read it. You will be GREATLY surprised. Also, the Koran is based very much on the Old Testiment as well.
Originally posted by dawnstar
reply to post by dariousg
so, what if your wife thinks you are being disloyal, disobedient, ect...? does the koran give her permission to beat you?
ya know, all things being equal and all!
Originally posted by Bombeni
Debating the Bible and the Koran are really subjects suited to theologians and the people who practice said religions commonly. We are not debating what the Bible or Koran SAYS to do, we are debating what actually is occuring as we speak.
reply to post by dariousg
The only bad thing is that he can beat his wife without retribution if he can prove there was just cause.
Originally posted by dariousg
Originally posted by Bombeni
Debating the Bible and the Koran are really subjects suited to theologians and the people who practice said religions commonly. We are not debating what the Bible or Koran SAYS to do, we are debating what actually is occuring as we speak.
Where are my credentials in other words? Well, for one I began and nearly completed my bachelor in theology. I started life out as a Christian and spent a couple decades as such. My faith is still in tact but not like what you would probably call faith. I have faith in the message that Jesus gave and I live by that message.
However, I chose to begin studying other religions as well because it just didn't seem smart to base my view of the world from a solely 'Christian' point.
Thus my knowledge and experience with the muslim women that I am trying to point out that have lead very fruitful lives.
Originally posted by Bombeni
Originally posted by dariousg
Originally posted by Bombeni
Debating the Bible and the Koran are really subjects suited to theologians and the people who practice said religions commonly. We are not debating what the Bible or Koran SAYS to do, we are debating what actually is occuring as we speak.
Where are my credentials in other words? Well, for one I began and nearly completed my bachelor in theology. I started life out as a Christian and spent a couple decades as such. My faith is still in tact but not like what you would probably call faith. I have faith in the message that Jesus gave and I live by that message.
However, I chose to begin studying other religions as well because it just didn't seem smart to base my view of the world from a solely 'Christian' point.
Thus my knowledge and experience with the muslim women that I am trying to point out that have lead very fruitful lives.
I may have been unclear. What I meant was there is no point in us debating one religion over another. I am not trying to convert anyone's religious belief and I don't want anyone trying to convert me. I meant that such discussions are best suited among people of the same faith, to try to discern the correct meaning of certain passages etc.
These muslim women you know who lead these very fruitful lives, where do they live? How many, roughly, are you talking about?
Originally posted by pujols5
WOW LOOK AT THE ATROCITIES DONE BY CHRISTIANS AND AMERICANS, THEY BASICALLY TREAT THEIR WOMEN AS SEX TOYS AND LIKE GARBAGE
[edit on 12-2-2010 by pujols5]
Originally posted by novacs4me
Originally posted by pujols5
WOW LOOK AT THE ATROCITIES DONE BY CHRISTIANS AND AMERICANS, THEY BASICALLY TREAT THEIR WOMEN AS SEX TOYS AND LIKE GARBAGE
[edit on 12-2-2010 by pujols5]
Two things: We aren't THEIR women. We are our OWN women. Also, if we are treated so badly, then why aren't we seeking asylum in Islamic countries in droves?
Originally posted by Bombeni
Originally posted by novacs4me
Originally posted by pujols5
WOW LOOK AT THE ATROCITIES DONE BY CHRISTIANS AND AMERICANS, THEY BASICALLY TREAT THEIR WOMEN AS SEX TOYS AND LIKE GARBAGE
[edit on 12-2-2010 by pujols5]
Two things: We aren't THEIR women. We are our OWN women. Also, if we are treated so badly, then why aren't we seeking asylum in Islamic countries in droves?
Haha, good catch there nova. What do we have here, a freudian slip?
You are a sharp operator my friend.
EDIT to add, that puhols5 character is SO busted. Did you catch the other post, where she said muslim men can only beat their wives when it is justified?
[edit on 12-2-2010 by Bombeni]
People that take offense so easily have to really take a step back and look at themselves closely to make sure they are arguing for arguments sake or simply spouting off from an emotional basis.
Originally posted by novacs4me
reply to post by Bombeni
Thanks, Bombeni! I was thinking that because women are not considered to be their own persons, but belonging to either her family or his, that these guys will never know the joy of a relationship with a woman who truly chooses him, who truly enjoys his company in every way. Sadly, it is their loss. I know my husband appreciates a wife who wants him as much as he wants her!