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Originally posted by Southern Fraudian
reply to post by centurion1211
Im still waiting for those sources that told you there is plenty of oil to cut our dependence right here in the great US of A!
The US consumes 20 of the 88 million barrels of oil produced in total around the world a day. 7 million of that is produced in the United states. The middle east brings out 56% of the worlds oil daily, and the total North american production of the fuel source is 16%. You are essentially arguing there is doubt the resources untapped that will be sustainable for us for years to come.
www.eia.doe.gov...
Its a very strong argument so I'd like to know what sources told you so. Dont tell me its hidden up there in Alaska. BP and shell have been operating in Alaska for some time now and are producing less and less over the last few decades:
Although Alaska's production declined from 2 million barrels per day (bbl/d) in 1988 to 864,000 bbl/d in 2005
tonto.eia.doe.gov...
California has already got the oil corporations riddling much of its coasts and inland parts:
tonto.eia.doe.gov...
I wont even start with Texas, thats been drill ridden for longer than the other states.
I suppose maybe your "sources" also told you about the Bakken formation out in the Dakota's and Montana? Its BS. While there are confirmed recoverable oil sources there, the amount is petty compared to the amount this country needs to consumer a day:
www.usgs.gov...
Theres estimated to be up to 4.3 billion barrels hidden there. To fill this nations current need and independence it will only last a year.
I do not deny there is probably untouched areas with hidden fossil fuels but this assumption we should just dump and drill everywhere to get every single drop to supposedly solve our energy crises is naive.
Taking aside the population growth and ever increasing energy needs, you are arguing we would be able to cut off our dependence long term if we just drill in more places. Your essentially arguing to more than double our production in states that have for much of its time been drilled for the last century. Of course the oil corporations would want every single drop before it all ends, so they'll paint a rosy picture to get your support.
I mean what sources gave you this idea again?
Originally posted by kinda dubious
Originally posted by centurion1211
Wait! Do any of you libs here even know what "riparian" means?
I'll venture to guess it is a slimy lower life form.
One of your cousins perhaps?
[edit on 11-2-2010 by kinda dubious]
I've been chairman of a couple different city planning commissions, so I've seen it over and over. They show up at the meetings in tears and lament the coming "riparian holocaust". Wait! Do any of you libs here even know what "riparian" means?
Originally posted by whatukno
reply to post by centurion1211
I've been chairman of a couple different city planning commissions, so I've seen it over and over. They show up at the meetings in tears and lament the coming "riparian holocaust". Wait! Do any of you libs here even know what "riparian" means?
So while you were a chairman of these city planning commissions did you childishly mangle peoples names in order to vainly attempt to appear superior to them? How did that go over?
Of course not. But this is ATS, surely you'll allow me to indulge in a little palinophobic-style fun at your expense. After all, since you often mangle the truth to suit your purpose, wouldn't it be just slightly hypocritical for you to complain ...
And I don't really think that the vegetation along side streams will be adversely affected by high speed rail lines down the middle of interstates. Call me uninformed but the proposed routes don't appear to be along any river or stream where the vegetation might be affected.
Of course you wouldn't.. But then you've obviously not put in the time I have actually running these hearings - or even attending just one. The enviro-nazis actually send in teams to count the lizards and insects in each square foot of ground that they have an interest in. I've even seen them "seed" a parcel of land with an endangered species - usually dead to make everyone feel even worse - to try and sway opinion. Yes, these are the people on YOUR side of the political spectrum. Never afraid to distort the truth or even outright lie. After all, the ends justify the means in the Manifesto.
[edit on 2/11/2010 by centurion1211]
Originally posted by centurion1211
Have a good night.
Of course not. But this is ATS, surely you'll allow me to indulge in a little palinophobic-style fun at your expense. After all, since you often mangle the truth to suit your purpose, wouldn't it be just slightly hypocritical for you to complain ...
Of course you wouldn't.. But then you've obviously not put in the time I have actually running these hearings - or even attending just one. The enviro-nazis actually send in teams to count the lizards and insects in each square foot of ground that they have an interest in. I've even seen them "seed" a parcel of land with an endangered species - usually dead to make everyone feel even worse - to try and sway opinion. Yes, these are the people on YOUR side of the political spectrum. Never afraid to distort the truth or even outright lie. After all, the ends justify the means in the Manifesto.
Originally posted by Someone336
reply to post by centurion1211
Wow, arrogant much? I fail to see how you are the victor of this debate is all you offered as rebuttals were insults and personal opinions?
Originally posted by neformore
Well lookee here...
Original pic
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/d3f36f0ce40c.jpg[/atsimg]
Link to original site.
Originally posted by kinda kurious
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Give up man......
[edit on 12-2-2010 by kinda kurious]
Originally posted by whatukno
reply to post by centurion1211
I am sure you do and they probably all are just as real as the first pic you posted.
No one is buying the partisan crap here anymore.
You have run city council meetings before. Obviously you can spot bull when you see it.
No one is buying the partisan crap here anymore.
Really? Show us that by your own actions.