The Rothschilds tell American and Britain that "Toll Roads" will help their economies

reply to post by neformore
We pay road tax annually. We don't pay per mile at all.
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How do you think they figure your road tax? So yes, whether you know it or not, you do pay by the mile. What tollroads are going to do in the UK is be able to have a continuous tax on people, and put into place checkpoints, which is what the bigger picture is anyways.

reply to post by thewind


That's what happens when myopic morons are elected into positions or power and public trust. They abuse their power, ignore the public's interests, breach the public's trust, and raid the treasury which, in this case, consists of selling out the public's most vital commodity to private interests, foreign interests at that, and burden the public's right to travel freely within our own country for the sake of lining the coffers of rich robber barons with the sweat of our children's future labor for generations to come. WHat does Yahweh say about that in the Old Testament: "I will visit the iniquities of the father's upon the children even unto the 3rd and 4th generation of them that hate me." Looks like that curse is coming true here.

I'm ready to find a rusty old pitch fork and begin sharpening the tines for when the sleeping masses wake up, march to their overlords' castles, break down the doors, and drag them into the streets to answer for their crimes.

reply to post by Essan
And why only England? What about N Ireland, Scotland and Wales?
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Helllllloooooooooooo, where were you in december when Great Britain signed away it's sovereignty to the EU via the Lisbon Treaty? Are you getting the "BIG" picture now? Toll Roads, money, no sovereign nations left in the UK, they all will belong to the EU! And guess who is the president of the EU? None other than Rothschild puppet Van Rompuoy! Now, let all this sink in for a spell, and you'll get what's happening I am sure of it!

Hi, My name is soundguy. Long time lurker, first time poster/new member. Hopefully I have found a place to fit in. I am too far right for those on the left. I am too far left for those on the right, and my thinking ends up being too unconventional for the middle. I am looking forward to being part of this community and a contributor.

Reading this thread inspired me to add a different perspective that I hadn't seen represented. Having lurked here long enough, I also realize that that all things are relative and one can always argue as to what came first, the need or the solution that needed sold.

I think one argument that is fomenting here in the U.S. is how to replace the revenue lost as more people switch to hybrids and plug in electrics. As more of those types of vehicles hit the roads (as they will soon) there will be a loss of money collected through the gasoline tax.

But to think that a corporation could be given dominion over that which was acquired through imminent domain reeks to high heaven.

reply to post by thewind


Hi.

I think you are missing a point or two here.

See the flag on my avatar on the left? You know what country that represents I'm sure.

Now I don't know where you are from, but it sounds like you aren't from the UK - both myself and Essan are.

There has not been "thousands of miles of fibre optic cable" laid at the side of motorways and main roads here for the express purpose of road charging - fFrankly, the government can't fund the transport sector properly and the road network is falling apart. They can't even police stolen number plates and uninsured drivers properly, let alone try and charge vehicles per mile.

There is a single toll motorway in the UK, that is 27 miles long. You pay on entry to it and are not charged by the mile.

I would second that our councils run road maintenance and repair and at the moment they resemble the main roads in Kandahar. I live in Edinburgh and just doing phase one of the tram install has caused a year and half of delays, laying this supposed fibre optic cable would take the councils about a hundred years

Originally posted by endisnighe
Why doesn't this have a thousand flags?

Selling roads paid by US.

Charging us for roads WE built.

Will they discontinue the gas taxes? I THINK NOT!

This government needs to be stopped and stopped NOW!

Don't you mean a dumb, corrupted, Socialism for the rich government? A good government is great but not this thing we call government.

Government by the consent of the people...if you don't consent then how could they operate?

Just think about it for awhile.

[edit on 2/10/2010 by dalan.]

Originally posted by Common Good
From Article---“Road charging,” as it is called in England, is widespread, he told AFP, as fiber optic cable has been laid along most English roads to help track vehicle travel by the mile so drivers can be charged.

here in America, we call that invasion of privacy.

When I was reading that, all it said to me was "we want to track your every move, every turn, every mile.we must know where you are at at all times so we can control you and take all your money."


Edit-Or is it just me?


[edit on 10-2-2010 by Common Good]

Your are spot on, this is a disgrace and again they are trying to find a way to hold onto power over us as it is slipping, what better way to monitor our every move, no wonder they are trying to push the new government schemes to buy cheaper cars with TRACKING EQUIPMENT BUILT IN!

Widespread in England? I live in England and there is 1 toll road in the whole country which is optional you can go round if you want and not pay! (its charged on entry and that is all)

THE TIME IS NEARING TO GET RID OF THESE SCUM!

[edit on 10-2-2010 by DigitalKid]

I think this post proves beyond any reasonable doubt that U.S. Citizens really do not own anything within the United States.

If you have the right to travel then why would you have to pay a toll for it? If you have the right to travel then why do you have to ask the State for permission to do so? Isn't a driver's license a permit? If a driver's license is a permit, why are you asking for permission to exercise a right?

Is it because U.S. Citizens have no "rights" only privileges?

The Fourteenth Amendment "Civil Rights"

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property , without the due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

From Black's Law Dictionary third Pocket Edition:

jurisdiction, n.1. A government's general power to exercise authority over all persons and things within its territory.

privilege. 1. A special legal right, exemption, or immunity GRANTED to a person or class of persons.

That is very odd, on one hand the Declaration of Independence States that our rights were given to us by our Creator...the highest authority. Somehow we seem to have fallen under the jurisdiction of the Federal Government who grants us those "privileges" that our Creator gave us.

Odd, and I suppose that, what the Federal Government granteth they can taketh away...

It appears that all of the well behaved U.S. Citizens here are doing well playing their game. How many of you check the box?

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reply to post by endisnighe


Oh they already did that to a lot of things in our Country...
For example they made a big network infrastructure controlling almost everything, on the cost of the Dutch people, but also owned by us..
Than they privatize the network for profit and "competition", while they are almost an unbeatable market leader from the start... But the point is the whole thing was already paid by the people who are gonna use it in the first place, just like you and your parents etc. paid for all the Roads in your country... I understand the need money for maintainance, but this is just utterly sick...

And about the Carbontax stuff they say, well it's good it's only affecting those who are driving often... It such a small perspective most people have.. the (kept) blindness of the mainstream - it's almost like most people just wanna be controlled - and everybody is got to take the piss...

OHoh... Time for my spliff..

Originally posted by dalan.
Government by the consent of the people...if you don't consent then how could they operate?

Just think about it for awhile.

[edit on 2/10/2010 by dalan.]

By sneaky tacticts and lies, like they do all the time...
Or am I getting u entirely wrong here? Soz mate

Originally posted by digalog

Originally posted by dalan.
Government by the consent of the people...if you don't consent then how could they operate?

Just think about it for awhile.

[edit on 2/10/2010 by dalan.]

By sneaky tacticts and lies, like they do all the time...
Or am I getting u entirely wrong here? Soz mate

I think you got the gist of my post exactly.

Second line?

I volunteer to do the dragging and executing...
Louie: Hey! It's Krusty, all right. Should I shoot him gangland-style or execution-style?
Fat Tony: Listen to your heart.

If only the wealthy 5% of people couldnt convince the poorer 95% that cash is a good exchange for bodyguarding them...

Originally posted by star in a jar
So when the hell will the Rothschilds be dragged out of their mansions and summarily executed by a pissed-off crowd?

I've often thought WHY doesnt someone or a group of someone's with power and access do military strikes on that small percentage as well. Seems like a small tumor making an entire world organism very sick, and the tumor can easily be REMOVED!

OK:
1. Toll roads/pay-per-mile is a really bad idea & it's going to *snip* off so many people if they even come close to trying it.
2. Confiscating the wealth of the world's top 5% and then executing them is a far more agreeable idea (Ahabstar: utter genius)
3. Whoever wrote the article sprinkled in a few lies through it & some of the stated 'facts' are quite frankly retarded.

For example:

From the Article:

“Road charging,” as it is called in England, is widespread...

No it isn't.
That is a lie.
There are over 250,000 roads in the UK, only 17 of them are toll roads, (including the M6 motorway & the congestion charge for central London)
UK toll roads
17 out 250,000...??... widespread...??....WTF??

as fiber optic cable has been laid along most English roads to help track vehicle travel by the mile so drivers can be charged.

Utter bull*snip*....
This is a lie.
No fibre optics exist by the roads for this purpose & for another thing, someone please explain to me how the hell a fibre optic cable along the side of the road, is actually going to track your car & know where you've been & how far you travelled, amongst all the other traffic & where they've all been & how far they went?
WTF??.
That is so retarded to even think of it as a way to implement it, let alone how retarded it is to believe 'magic' fibre optics can track all road traffic & know where you've been.

...Clearly better to go for GPS tracking devices in cars !! At least that's within
the bounds of reality.

OK, the quality of the article is utter PANTS; however, it is perfectly feasible to intoduce toll roads using GPS to charge per mile & if they do...

...Well, that'll be like - an act of war against the public...
...that'll be like - only the rich can drive about...
...there'll certainly be a lot of angry people...

reply to post by soundguy
That's a very good and pliable synopsis, and we gotta remember that opec and the politicians who are heavily invested in the oil markets also! BUt the much larger picture here I and a lot of others feel is the "control" factor the elite are exhibiting! Total control in exchange for lost revenue? They might think that is a fair trade if they can gain total control of the populous.

i read taht as "troll" roads. that's a totally different spin on things.

rothschilds are bad.

reply to post by neformore
There is a single toll motorway in the UK, that is 27 miles long. You pay on entry to it and are not charged by the mile.
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Your flag has nothing to do with the formula that was used to "set" the price you pay for driving on that 27 miles of road! What computes this is the number of drivers per day, number of axles your vehicle has, and the weight of your vehicle and what you are hauling if you are a truck-driver hauling goods.

It seems that you are the one who missed the point here. Toll road prices are set to the above formula, both here in the usa and abroad. Actually, according to our dot here in neighboring west virginia, they copy "Britain's" toll road policy formula! This same formula is how they will be figuring the toll tax for virginia when they get the toll roads ready.

reply to post by HappilyEverAfter

You wouldn't get within a half mile of any of the "real" global elitists! They are that afraid of the masses!